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Ann Coulter at CPAC
National Center for Public Policy Research ^ | 2-4-07 | Amy Ridenour

Posted on 03/04/2007 2:59:04 PM PST by SJackson

Ann Coulter at CPAC

I'm sorry to see that Ann Coulter once again made certain news coverage of CPAC would be focused upon her instead of upon the conservative movement's goals and principles.

The National Center for Public Policy Research is one of very many co-sponsors of CPAC, and has been for some years. After Ann Coulter's offensive speech last year, we telephoned the organizers and strongly suggested that Ann Coulter's behavior was harmful to, and unrepresentative of, the conservative movement. We said we were considering pulling out our co-sponsorship because of Ann Coulter's "raghead" comment, and asked them to not invite Ann Coulter to speak in CPAC 2007, or, at the very least, only invite her if she was told to can the offensive speech, and explicitly agreed to do so. I had 90 percent decided to stop our co-sponsorship for CPAC 2007, but the sponsor seemed to be taking our concerns about Coulter's 2006 remarks seriously and with what seemed to us to be appropriate sympathy, so the National Center co-sponsored CPAC again this year.

(I am, by the way. under no illusion that CPAC's main sponsors lose sleep over possibly losing the National Center's co-sponsorship. We do pay a fee to co-sponsor, and all the fees paid by all the co-sponsors together do add up to quite a tidy sum, but I'm sure any one co-sponsor is quite expendable.)

As has been widely reported, Ann Coulter not only once again went out of her way to use a nasty epithet, she pushed her offensiveness up a notch, using a word that is even more universally reviled than the derogatory term she hurled last year.

So, CPAC's sponsors either invited Coulter back without first getting her pledge that she would speak without using demeaning epithets, or they obtained her pledge, and she broke her word.

We'll ask.

It would be better, in my opinion, to not have a CPAC at all than to have one that presents conservatism as a hostile, people-hating ideology. We conservatives have enough trouble overcoming the false things that are said about us without paying for a platform upon which we shoot ourselves annually in the foot.

Some of my past commentary on Ann Coulter can be found here and here.

Here's a roundup of other conservative (and moderate) commentary on the Coulter situation:
"With Friends Like These... (re Ann Coulter)," JonQuixote

"CPAC is Shocked--Shocked!--by Ann Coulter's Remarks," Jon Swift

"Coulter Screams for Attention, Again - Losing Whatever Supporters She Still Had," Patterico

"Ann Coulter Doesn't Speak For Me," Wizbang

"Coulter Said What? (Bumped)," Captain's Quarters

"The Shame Of Ann Coulter," The Moderate Voice

"Ann Coulter at CPAC," Betsy's Page

"Ann Coulter calls John Edwards...," Right Thoughts

"Count Me Out," Lone Star Times

"Ann Coulter Calls John Edwards The 'F-word'," Gay Patriot

"Coulter Needs A Rehab," Riehl World View

"Apologizing for Ann Coulter," MyDD

"On Ann Coulter, John Edwards, and Civility," historymike
P.S. A hostile liberal blogger issues a challenge to conservatives:
Reality: [Ann Coulter] is your biggest star. The people you claim to speak for feel she speaks for them much, much more than you do -- and they're right. She is modern conservatism's id -- she's the one who says what the rest of you would say if you didn't feel it would cost you your standing as reasonable, responsible people.

Want to prove me wrong? You cut her off. You boycott the sponsors of TV shows that still invite her on as a guest. You show up at her book signings and campus appearances and hand out flyers quoting her nastiest bon mots. You boycott CPAC next year if she's invited, and demand that others do the same. Or if you have a problem with boycotts as a matter of principle, at the very least urge your fellow conservatives, on college campuses and elsewhere, to stop extending invitations to her, given the profound harm you say she does to your movement.

But you won't do that, will you? In that case, shut the hell up, hypocrites, and acknowledge that while Coulter may be the bad apple in the family, your door is always open to her.
Well?


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; conservativefox; coulter; cpac; edwards; johnedwards; superbabe
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I know, it's the National Center for Public Policy Research

Some people know them, some don't, so I suppose the communist front group nonsence might fly for awhile.

Myself, I acknowledge that as a Gingrich supporter who thinks were's harming the Republican (I know that doesn't impact everyone reading this> Party's chances with the anti-Rudy nonsense, I'm a traitor, an abortionist, a Jew who touts the ADL line, a promoter of the homosexual agenda, a draft dodger, and the worst, someone who thinks a lovely blonde, Ann, made a very stupid remark. Compounded by the lack of a simple explanation.

I'd be curious to hear how this helps whoever the Republican candidate might be. Even the mythical anti-Rudy who will be flying down from the moon come summer.

Romney fans, how does it feel to have his CPAC victory overshadowed by the issue of the day in a few peoples minds, faggots.

1 posted on 03/04/2007 2:59:04 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I would generally agree that it was a dumb comment (although funny). But, the GOP compounded the problem by throwing a fit over it rather than ignoring it.


2 posted on 03/04/2007 3:06:44 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: SJackson

400 replies with overwhelming in favor of Ann's right to do and say as she pleases. Anyone who didn't agree was a troll, PC type, RINO, uptight, false conservative, etc.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795166/posts


3 posted on 03/04/2007 3:08:21 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: SJackson
Piss Off Jackson.

Anne made a very smart remark, but then you don't really understand Anne do you!

Republicans do not need the Liberal Socialists and Rinos permission to apply wit, innuendo, and vitriol to the political opposition.

Why is it that only Dems can slander slash and burn?

The Dems have awoken their moon bat base using vitriol, have called our president names like Nazi, Kerry called our president a terrorist, Murtha has called our president stupid, as has Nacy Pelosi, and we buckle at the use of the word faggot in an off hand reference to gurly man John Edwards?

How have Republicans devolved to have inherited such weenieship?

I say let the games begin, and in doing so, lets awaken the conservative grass roots of the electorate, instead of putting it to sleep like the RINOs want!

Thank you Anne for reminding us!

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4 posted on 03/04/2007 3:09:27 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Rodney King

It was a dumb comment, not funny and she shouldn't be invited back to CPAC.


5 posted on 03/04/2007 3:09:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: SJackson
Disregarding all faggots, and "moderate" (read that LIBERAL) WIMP Republicans who don't have any balls, nor either a sense of humor - or sense in general...

Keep telling it like it is, with great biting wit and sarcasm Ann. If it goes over the liberal dolts heads, then, OH WELL.

Ann, you're welcome in my home any time.

6 posted on 03/04/2007 3:10:29 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Rodney King
I would generally agree that it was a dumb comment (although funny). But, the GOP compounded the problem by throwing a fit over it rather than ignoring it.

Presidential candidates shared the podium, you can't ignore it. Anns smart, she's clever, plenty of reporters in attendance. Might not have been as much fun, but she could have told a couple them that heck, she's often over the top, but it was a comment on political correctness, that Edwards is a handsome married man, and it never occured to her anyone would take seriously he was a faggot (might want to use a different word). Publicity for Ann, embarassment for the candidates.

7 posted on 03/04/2007 3:10:49 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SJackson

Do you think it would be helpful if Ann went into rehab?


8 posted on 03/04/2007 3:11:58 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: misterrob
Ann called John Edwards a queer. Is it true? If it is he's dead meat. I can't believe Coulter would call Edwards a queer unless she knew he was. There would be no point in falsely calling him queer because he is not a serious contender.

The Left pays lip service to butt-bangers but when they can they show their disapproval of homosexuality. Look at how they tried to embarrass Dick Cheney because his daughter was a lesbian.
9 posted on 03/04/2007 3:13:59 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SJackson

I know, I'm an ass if I don't condemn Ann Coulter. I won't apologize for saving my outrage for leftists who constantly accuse our military guys of being incompetent, poorly trained, and sadistic. Ann is not an elected official, she's a columnist. Don't like her material? Then don't buy it!


10 posted on 03/04/2007 3:14:53 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: SJackson
Quote:
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The reason I document these things is because I believe they are collectively the smoking gun that shows how pathological the modern left has become. So tell me – why would I support similar behavior on the right? Yes, Bill Maher did his typically brain-dead and offensive shtick on Friday. But, you’ll note, “brain-dead” and “offensive” aren’t terms of praise. Assuming one thinks that publicly using the word “faggot” is offensive, why would one praise Ann Coulter for doing so just because she has opposite numbers on the other side of the political spectrum who are also embarrassments to their side? I must admit, the logic here is lost on me.

An additional point related to this complaint for you political pragmatists out there: One of the reasons the left lost in 2004 was because of its sweaty embrace of Michael Moore. The hysteria of the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post are ongoing liabilities for liberalism. I’m not entirely clear on why conservatives would cheer similar liabilities in their own ranks.

The final argument was the most ludicrous (although admittedly the competition was fierce). Many of my correspondents thought Ann should have been able to say whatever she wanted. To them, it was a free speech issue.

Yes, America is a free country. Obviously, Ann can do her Lenny Bruce-meets-Gordon Liddy “edgy” conservative comedy shtick if that’s what floats her boat (and sells her books). But when she goes out in public and enters a mature forum, Ann has to clean it up. On Friday, she was speaking from a stage that in all likelihood also hosted the future Republican presidential nominee. This wasn’t a college campus appearance. More dignity was required. Obviously the presidential candidates agree; they have attempted to distance themselves from Coulter, obviously failing to grasp the benefit of having such a putatively hilarious conservative firebrand on their side.

Determinedly clueless to the bitter end, Ann emailed the New York Times’ Adam Nagourney responding to the candidates’ seeking distance from her. “Did any of these guys say anything after I made the same remark about Al Gore last summer?” she asked. “Why not? What were they trying to say about Al Gore with their silence?” To provide the obvious answer of why her Gore comments went unnoticed, her Gore comments (which I don’t have any memory of) obviously came at a less prominent forum than CPAC.

One last point, and this one more to do with conservatives than the outspoken pundit. A lot of people wrote in saying something like, “Big deal. No one offended by the term ‘faggot’ is going to vote Republican, anyway.”

I don’t deny that there are people who don’t consider “faggot” an offensive term. Of course, there are people who don’t consider “kike” an offensive term either. In our current day, the former is a hateful slur word just as surely as the latter is. If you don’t agree with that, it’s important that you at least realize the following – the offensiveness of “faggot” is a certain truth in polite society. And impolite society. And just about everywhere in between. If this comes as news to you, you’ve got to get out more. Don’t quote me a Dire Straits song from 1985 – times have changed. It’s frankly an embarrassment that some conservatives are so eager and willing to embrace Coulter’s comment.

When Ann made her offending comment on Friday, it wasn’t greeted by boisterous laughter as many of you have suggested in your emails and comments. It was greeted by uncomfortable silence. That spoke well of the attendees. The audience at CPAC knew that Ann had transgressed.

Some conservatives, or at least some of the conservatives who have flooded my inbox, think that her transgression was perfectly acceptable. It wasn’t. The use of a hateful slur word in a public forum is beyond the pale. It saddens me that we can’t have unanimity on such a simple and basic point.

As for me, in spite of all the thoughtful emails I’ve received to the contrary, I’m sticking with my original assessment of Ann and her “joke”: Idiotic. Disgusting. Stupid. Moronic.

(Dean Barnett in Town Hall, March 4, 2007)
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/
11 posted on 03/04/2007 3:15:38 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: SJackson
More so call "conservative" cry baby crap. Hey Cons, get a life and grow some balls. This liberal type stuff from our side is getting sickening.
12 posted on 03/04/2007 3:15:42 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: DocH

Ann should apologize for the "faggot" comment just as soon as the leftwing moonbats apologize for their "Bush lied, people died, selected, not elected, no WMD . . . " and countless other far more offensive comments which get passed along and even rubber-stamped by our Kool-Aid drinking media whores.


13 posted on 03/04/2007 3:15:51 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Rodney King

Ann Coulter has made a career out of dumbass statements.


14 posted on 03/04/2007 3:16:40 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: SJackson
I think it is a sad day when we let faggots or the liberals tell us what we can an can't say. How did we get here?

After all, we compromised at every turn and tried to get along with the left's constant whining and ridiculous PC demands.

The fact is we are afraid of them. What they say, what they write, whether we will kill too many bad guys. Hurt some feelings.

There is nothing for us to do but run a RINO I guess. Anything else would be so un P.C. We would surely be raked over the coals and be called very bad things if we ran a real conservative.

We play hardball with nerf balls. We are a neutered. We are Girly men, we are what the left defines us, no...allows us to be. We are afraid and who can blame us? We don't know how to play politics any longer. Let's just have a big cry (After we wring our hands some more of course).

Ann I love you.
15 posted on 03/04/2007 3:16:41 PM PST by bluecollarman (awaiting tag line inspiration...)
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To: BunnySlippers
Whats wrong Bunsy Wunsy?

Got your panties all in a twist?

Rudy is a lothario liberal. No the grass root Rebublicans will not support him and plan to sink his primary campaign.

Why?

Get this:

While he was the “Republican Mayor” of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benches. In all of those judicial appointment only two were Republican.

All of his other judicial appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the “Republican Mayor” he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.

He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the City’s Department of Transportation Commissioner.

________________________________________________________________ http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html “And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.” Rudolph Giuliani

Interesting how many Rudy Rotorooters like you think Anne is a harridan. We don't need the permission of RINO supporters like you or the liberal socialist Dems to tell the truth, or to use wit, innuendo and vitriol anytime we damn well feel like it. It awakens the grass roots base of the political party that will sink Rudy.

We WILL SINK RUDY. He is going down.

16 posted on 03/04/2007 3:18:48 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Rodney King
This is what you linked to:

Another stock shocker expected (Further Stock Market Declines For This Week?)

17 posted on 03/04/2007 3:19:33 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: Candor7

And Ann Coulter still stinks.


18 posted on 03/04/2007 3:22:34 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: Rodney King
But, the GOP compounded the problem by throwing a fit over it rather than ignoring it.

Correct. The GOP was far less outraged when Mo Dowd, Goodman, et al refer to our President as "Hitler."

19 posted on 03/04/2007 3:22:58 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: BunnySlippers
"And Ann Coulter still stinks."

I volunteer to check the veracity of this statement!

20 posted on 03/04/2007 3:25:32 PM PST by bluecollarman (awaiting tag line inspiration...)
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To: BunnySlippers

Sorry, DU is for you. Thanks for playing


21 posted on 03/04/2007 3:25:51 PM PST by always vigilant
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To: SJackson

Honestly, it may have been a stupid comment, but the truth is if Ann Coulter didn't exist the Left would have to invent her. They troll these events LOOKING for a slip-up by a conservative, some off-the-cuff remark they can turn into a tempest. They are not going to cover the important, core issues at CPAC no matter what.


22 posted on 03/04/2007 3:26:32 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: SJackson

Did anyone actually hear Ann. She was making a point not about gay people; but politically correct people.


23 posted on 03/04/2007 3:27:48 PM PST by freekitty
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To: BunnySlippers

"It was a dumb comment, not funny and she shouldn't be invited back to CPAC."

You're correct on all three counts. Congratulations!


24 posted on 03/04/2007 3:28:55 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: misterrob; Rodney King
Sorry Rodney - I responded to the wrong poster.

This is what Mister rob linked to:

Another stock shocker expected (Further Stock Market Declines For This Week?)

25 posted on 03/04/2007 3:29:27 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: popdonnelly
"It was a dumb comment, not funny and she shouldn't be invited back to CPAC." You're correct incorrect on all three counts. Congratulations! There, I fixed that for you.
26 posted on 03/04/2007 3:31:14 PM PST by bluecollarman (awaiting tag line inspiration...)
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To: SJackson

27 posted on 03/04/2007 3:31:57 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: SJackson

Could you please explain to me why there has to be ONE MORE ARTICLE POSTED about Ann's remark?

After all this, the end result will be that anyone who hears Edwards' name again is going to automatically think "faggot."

Hmmm....on second thought, maybe it's all to the good...


28 posted on 03/04/2007 3:32:53 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: SJackson
She's not a bigot. I don't see what the uproar is over a joke.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

29 posted on 03/04/2007 3:34:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The more ink conservatives spill over this non-issue, the better the libs like it. Forget it and move on.


30 posted on 03/04/2007 3:34:35 PM PST by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: Rodney King

Big friggin' deal. Coulter IMPLIED the "Breck Girl was a British cigarette!


31 posted on 03/04/2007 3:35:25 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Enterprise

DOH...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1795016/posts


32 posted on 03/04/2007 3:36:15 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: misterrob
400 replies with overwhelming in favor of Ann's right to do and say as she pleases. Anyone who didn't agree was a troll, PC type, RINO, uptight, false conservative, etc.

Don't forget to remind every one that those turning on Ann are sick.

They have a RINOVIRUS.

33 posted on 03/04/2007 3:36:28 PM PST by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: freekitty
I laugh over this when I remember how the dims and rinos have no problem with US SENATOR Bwarney Fwank running a gay bordello at his home.

We're not supposed to talk about that, you know--wouldn't be prudent, wouldn't be pc.

35 posted on 03/04/2007 3:39:41 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: SJackson

Wonder if they'd cut off Bill Mahr when he wishes that Dick Cheyney was killed recently. Seriously, the Left will resort to name-calling much more quickly since they usually are out of facts first.


36 posted on 03/04/2007 3:40:03 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: R.W.Ratikal

John is a metrosexual who appears to be obsessed with his looks and hair, but I don't think he's a homo.

From reading Ann's works, I take it she really soft metrosexual types so I don't think it was much of a strech for her label him a faggot.


37 posted on 03/04/2007 3:40:41 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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LOL@ GOP types who continue to let the left and the DNC define the debate.

First it was Catch an Illegal Immigrant day now we must rebuke this, please! Since we let them frame the debate we should fight their fire with ours.

And the conservative pundits who are so critical of her more than likely suffer from jealousy...

For Michelle Malkin, Our Lady of the Internment Camps, to be acting all high and mighty is funny.


38 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:49 PM PST by Def Conservative
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To: misterrob
Her "faggot" joke was not just a distraction from all the good that was highlighted and represented at the conference. It was the equivalent of a rhetorical fragging--an intentionally-tossed verbal grenade that exploded in her own fellow ideological soldiers' tent. - Michelle Malkin

You just hit the nail why I prefer Michelle over Ann. The former is focused and articulate, while the latter argumentative and bombastic. I however like Ann's books. She's impeccable when citing her sources.
40 posted on 03/04/2007 3:41:59 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SJackson

Correction: I take it she really *hates* soft metrosexual types


41 posted on 03/04/2007 3:42:24 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: SJackson
I'm a traitor, an abortionist, a Jew who touts the ADL line, a promoter of the homosexual agenda, a draft dodger, and the worst, someone who thinks a lovely blonde, Ann, made a very stupid remark.

Your admissions prior to stating "and the worst,..." discredits your observations on a conservative commentator.

If you posess all of these abhorent atributes, why does the moderator continue to accept your DU tripe?

42 posted on 03/04/2007 3:42:26 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: SJackson

Freedom of Speech should be abolished!! Sorry, it is Freedom from All Speech, not just the PC speech. It was probably the only real sentance spoken at that dog & pony.

Pray for W and Our Troops


43 posted on 03/04/2007 3:43:06 PM PST by bray (Redeploy to Tehran)
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To: Def Conservative

And might I add, many Democrats have shared the stage with Bill Maher, including one very prominent one on the night he said his ill words of Cheney, yet the RNC didn't demand a rebuke from the DNC or its' candidates.


44 posted on 03/04/2007 3:44:22 PM PST by Def Conservative
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To: misterrob
400 replies with overwhelming in favor of Ann's right to do and say as she pleases. Anyone who didn't agree was a troll, PC type, RINO, uptight, false conservative, etc.

You're right. It's a damn shame that upright, false conservative RINO won the straw poll.

45 posted on 03/04/2007 3:49:06 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Candor7

Why is it that only Dems can slander slash and burn?

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C'mon, you know the answer to that: Because the media give them a pass and rake conservatives over the coals.

IMO, Coulter sucked all of the air out of the room and probably does not give a hoot that she gave the media a chance to ignore any important messages that came out of CPAC


46 posted on 03/04/2007 3:51:40 PM PST by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: Rodney King
"I would generally agree that it was a dumb comment"

I somewhat agree. But my big beef with this whole story is this. Since when were the words fagot, nigger, kike, jap, wop, etc. etc. etc. BANNED from use.
Coulter was ABSOLUTLY correct, and I think it was her point, when she said if you say these words you have to go to rehab for the forgiveness of the PC Police. (the press)
47 posted on 03/04/2007 3:51:50 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Candor7
Piss Off Jackson.

Piss off, classy.

Piss off Rudy, piss off McCain, piss off Romney, piss off Michell Maklin, piss off....

Oh well. You get the idea.

48 posted on 03/04/2007 3:52:18 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freekitty
"She was making a point not about gay people; but politically correct people."

I see that this went completely over the heads of most!
49 posted on 03/04/2007 3:53:51 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: bluecollarman
I think it is a sad day when we let faggots or the liberals tell us what we can an can't say. How did we get here?

Which faggot? Are you suggesting that Ann seriously was suggesting Edwards is a faggot?

That didn't occur to me.

50 posted on 03/04/2007 3:54:08 PM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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