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Schwarzenegger: GOP presidential hopefuls should stick to center
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/4/07 | AP

Posted on 03/04/2007 9:18:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Darkwolf377
A hardcore conservative would never have won in California;

Considering how close Simon came to beating Davis, even after the most incompetent campaign in ages and with the finance director of his own Party sabotaging the effort, that assertion is void of reality.

61 posted on 03/04/2007 11:04:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie
Considering how close Simon came to beating Davis, even after the most incompetent campaign in ages and with the finance director of his own Party sabotaging the effort, that assertion is void of reality.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. "If only..." is the cry of the spin doctor. How about some reality for ya?

Davis beat Simon by FIVE percentage points. That, my friend, is not "close".

62 posted on 03/04/2007 11:25:26 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: NormsRevenge

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil."

"The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum.
Whenever evil wins, it is only by default:
by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles."

Source: Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

AYN RAND


63 posted on 03/04/2007 11:29:34 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Davis beat Simon by FIVE percentage points. That, my friend, is not "close".

It is 325,000 votes with 1.6 million registered Republicans failing to vote. That my friend is a failure of GOTV that directly resulted from Gerry Parsky's refusal to fund it.

Parsky has a long standing feud against the Simon family.

64 posted on 03/05/2007 12:02:35 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie

Davis' approval numbers had dropped to a disastrous 36%; by the time he beat Simon he was only up to 41%--and Simon lost by five points. I understand your point about Simon being eminently preferable, but come on, losing by that much when Davis was in the toilet isn't close--I mean, Davis got MORE of a percentage in the race than he had approval numbers.


65 posted on 03/05/2007 12:07:41 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: NormsRevenge

This certainly doesn't help with Tom McClintock's possible future political ambitions.


66 posted on 03/05/2007 3:50:46 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Darkwolf377
Your knowledge of what happened in that campaign is severely lacking. Basically Rove put much of the money in Parsky's hands. Parsky extorted Simon's original campaign manager into signing a letter supporting the Log Cabin Republicans, which PO'd Simon's footsoldiers. He then starved the campaign deliberately and then shoveled a small fraction of what he'd promised to favored consultants Wilson/Jones and Ed Rollins who flushed it with almost criminal incompetence.

The only other factor was a bogus lawsuit that Simon had been involved with dirty dealings for which he was eventually exonerated only too late, but that is just your usual Democrat dirty trick Simon should have been able to handle. It was a full court press.

Simon's weakness was that he is too nice a guy.

The point is that this is a State that will vote conservative upon occasion. It did with Prop 22, Prop 209, and Prop 227. It bought Schwarzenegger with the bogus promise that he would cut spending. Tom McClintock remains the most popular politician in the state, even if he has lost narrowly. Again, Arnold cut off the money for his campaign too.

67 posted on 03/05/2007 5:57:01 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie
Hey guess what? Someone can have a different opinion than you and still have plenty of knowledge about the situation. Case in point: Simon vs. Davis.

I never said a word about the Republican party's lack of support--because it has nothing to do with anything.

The point is, Davis was a horrible, horrible candidate, and Simon was a visible candidate, not some Green Party nobody. If Simon couldn't deal with his own PARTY, how the heck is he supposed to be able to deal with the democrat legislature?

All this whining about how Simon was such a victim doesn't change the most important fact--NOT that the Republicans didn't support him (I never brought that up, because it's not relevant), but that he couldn't beat as damaged a candidate as Davis.

Sorry your personal feelings for Simon (who seems like a great guy) lead you to all this spin, but if he can't outwit the Republicans, what good is he in a Democrat-controlled state?

68 posted on 03/05/2007 6:59:37 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Old man, I'm gonna come at you like a spider monkey! ")
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To: NormsRevenge

And he claims Reagan as his idol, right? Kind of like Rudy! Duncan Hunter in '08!


69 posted on 03/05/2007 7:30:49 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: Darkwolf377

That's why Hunter criticism that he isn't a "Senator" or "Governor" can shove it! Duncan Hunter should not be wasted with California.


70 posted on 03/05/2007 7:33:46 AM PST by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. 2008)
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To: gpapa
Now it is nearly impossible for young families to live in desirable areas near the coast.

Has it ever been? People had the same complaint thirty years ago - the only difference is that California coastal real estate has gotten even more desirable over time. The politics that have had the greatest negative effect on property values (and "negative" is in the eye of the beholder) stem from local NIMBY-ism, not from state Democrats irresponsible tax-and-spend policies.

71 posted on 03/05/2007 7:39:03 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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