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Do We Have a Right to Hate?
The New Media Journal ^ | March 5, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 03/05/2007 12:35:06 PM PST by NewMediaJournal

Former NBA star Tim Hardaway made waves on the airwaves recently by remarking that he hated homosexuals. It became the story du jour the next day, prompting the obligatory posturing and feigned outrage. Pundit Bill O’Reilly said (I’m paraphrasing), “We can’t have this in America,” although at least he was sincere.

Now, I know we should hate the sin but not the sinner, so far be it from me to advocate hatred for anyone (his actions and beliefs are a different matter). But given the West’s increasing embrace of hate crime/hate speech laws, we need to ask ourselves a question. Do we have a right to hate?

The Shill Media won’t discuss it, but the aforementioned laws are metastasizing in the supposedly free countries of the West. I’ve often written about the case of Mark Harding, a Canadian pastor punished for criticizing Islam. But such examples abound; Bob Unruh writes at WorldNetDaily.com...

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KEYWORDS: hate; hatecrime; hatespeech; legislation; timhardaway

1 posted on 03/05/2007 12:35:15 PM PST by NewMediaJournal
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To: NewMediaJournal

Define "hate"?

If hate manifests itself in loss of property or physical harm, than it should be illegal. But not because of hate, per se, but because they are crimes, period.

But words alone should not be a crime, even if they cause some distress.


2 posted on 03/05/2007 12:38:00 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah. Define it. Cuz all I see is the left trying to define everything that doesn't agree with their ideology as hate.


3 posted on 03/05/2007 12:39:57 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: dfwgator

Hate is fire bombing a Nativity Scene in Cambridge MA.


4 posted on 03/05/2007 12:41:05 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NewMediaJournal

Merely trying to deny people "speech" or "words" does nothing and most likely increases hate. Hate will never go away, it never has. Ask a mullah.


5 posted on 03/05/2007 12:41:27 PM PST by indylindy (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: massgopguy
Hate is fire bombing a Nativity Scene in Cambridge MA.

No, that's destruction of private property.

6 posted on 03/05/2007 12:42:00 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

I agree. Hate is not a crime. It's emotion or thought.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 12:43:28 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: indylindy

Anyone using the phrase "Hate Speech" as an accusation should be locked up as insane.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 12:43:39 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: RedStateRocker
Anyone using the phrase "Hate Speech" as an accusation should be locked up as insane.

"I hate speech."

;^)

9 posted on 03/05/2007 12:45:23 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: NewMediaJournal

Ping for later


10 posted on 03/05/2007 12:45:41 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; dfwgator; NewMediaJournal

And why do only liberals get to define what's hate crime/speech and what isn't? Surely anyone can see their hatred for morality and family values.

Besides, Mr. Hardaway is a basketball player. If they were to be held responsible for their mouthing off, we'd have lost Charles Barkley and Shaquille O'Neal long ago!


11 posted on 03/05/2007 12:45:43 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: NewMediaJournal

Yes.


12 posted on 03/05/2007 12:46:10 PM PST by GSlob
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To: NewMediaJournal

Words and feelings outside of direct public endangerment should NEVER be illegal.


13 posted on 03/05/2007 12:46:40 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry
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To: RedStateRocker

"Anyone using the phrase "Hate Speech" as an accusation should be locked up as insane."

Yes, of course, but only in a sane world.


14 posted on 03/05/2007 12:47:48 PM PST by mutley
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To: RedStateRocker

"Anyone using the phrase "Hate Speech" as an accusation should be locked up as insane."

Yes, of course, but only in a sane world, will that happen.


15 posted on 03/05/2007 12:48:17 PM PST by mutley
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To: NewMediaJournal

I think we have a right to hate the legitimately reprehensible. We have a right to hate Nazis, as an easy example.


16 posted on 03/05/2007 12:48:59 PM PST by popdonnelly ([Democrats] are jubilant at our disasters and are cast down when the rebels are defeated -Sept. 1862)
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To: RedStateRocker

Part of the reason people are so hateful anymore is because they are not able to express theirselves with words. Sometimes they resort to actions which are far worse. At least when you express yourself, people get to make a decision about where you are coming from.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 12:49:40 PM PST by indylindy (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: Disambiguator

LMAO!


18 posted on 03/05/2007 12:49:53 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: dfwgator
Define "hate"?
In LiberalSpeak, it is anyone who disagrees with them.
19 posted on 03/05/2007 12:51:04 PM PST by wjcsux (There is no end to the good, that do-gooders will do, with other people's money.)
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To: NewMediaJournal
"So I ask again, do we have a right to hate? In terms of moral rights, the answer is no."

Read Matthew 23. Jesus calls the Pharisees serpents, vipers, hypocrites, thieves and murderers, subject to hell and damnation.

20 posted on 03/05/2007 12:51:05 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: dfwgator
Hate is just fine. We should hate the enemies of our country, our values, and our families with a passion. We should be able to express this hate. There is nothing in the Constitution that protects anyone's feelings. The Founding Fathers would have been nauseous at the idea...

Vandalism, assault, battery, murder, etc. are crimes and the motivation shouldn't matter when it comes time to apply the penalty.
21 posted on 03/05/2007 12:52:51 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: massgopguy; dfwgator
The definition of "hate" already exists. Without fully writing it out, it is basically a feeling of intense aversion, enmity, dislike and/or hostility.

There are laws to address the illegal ACTIONS of people who injure another due to hate. It was wrong to create additional laws based on "hate"; that is what variations in sentencing are all about - the details of the crime.

This is a progression toward the elimination of free speech in the USA.

22 posted on 03/05/2007 12:53:27 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
One of my pet peeves is the dumbing down of America, not so much but manipulating information, but by eliminating a key element to thinking.

(ahem)
All thought processes are polarized ... there is no black unless there is white ... no plus without minus, no good without bad ... etc.

If we take away one of the components to the thought process ... individual thought cannot occur, thus ... if an answer is supplied (by whomever), that becomes the answer by default.

And you can hear the arguers being adamant in their passion ... because they really have thought this through! when in fact, the answer was inputted.

It's a clever twist on, "Tell a lie long enough and it becomes truth"

23 posted on 03/05/2007 12:53:42 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: 70times7

Right...."hate" is a FEELING....so if we're going to tell people they cannot hate....then we can tell them they cannot "love," "like".....etc.


24 posted on 03/05/2007 12:56:14 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: knarf

Good point, knarf. You can move the ball down the court, but you can't set and shoot.


25 posted on 03/05/2007 12:57:33 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Froufrou
The only people officially authorized to hate legally are the Democrats.
26 posted on 03/05/2007 12:57:52 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: goodnesswins

But in Liberalworld, it's bad to hate gays, but ok to hate Christians.


27 posted on 03/05/2007 12:58:07 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: NewMediaJournal

The premise of "hate" withing the bounds of "lib speak" is invalid. Please restate the question.


28 posted on 03/05/2007 1:00:18 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: dfwgator

Hate is the Knights of Columbus protesting the fire bombing of a Nativity Scene in Cambridge MA?


29 posted on 03/05/2007 1:00:25 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: NewMediaJournal
Hate is hijacking airliners and smashing them into skyscrapers.

Hate is teaching one's children that it's the calling of their lives to blow themselves up to kill Jews.

Hate is hacking the heads off innocent people while claiming it's being done in the name of God.

Hate is a so-called religion whose 'holy book' calls for the murder of those who don't convert to it.

Need I go on?

30 posted on 03/05/2007 1:01:27 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: tutstar; Nightshift

read later...


31 posted on 03/05/2007 1:03:18 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: NewMediaJournal
"Christians, Republicans, Dick Cheney & Freepers!"


32 posted on 03/05/2007 1:06:44 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: NewMediaJournal
eleven Christians were arrested in Philadelphia, Pa., for criticizing homosexuality. They were arrested under a Pennsylvania hate crime law, which, ominously, is almost identical to one (H.R. 254) going through Congress at this very moment.

Freedom is never in so much peril as when Congress is in session!

33 posted on 03/05/2007 1:07:34 PM PST by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

I hate it when some jacka** tailgates me.

I also hate hypocritical libs that:

hate bush,
hate this country,
hate Christians(ban the Bible),
hate families(no fault divorce & family court),
hate babies(abortions),
hate children(gay indoctrination & public schools), and
hate people(global warming).

Whew!


34 posted on 03/05/2007 1:13:49 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: TexasCajun

That's Maher, isn't it? I missed this; what caused such a gentle reaction on this mild-mannered (gag) talk show host's part?


35 posted on 03/05/2007 1:21:07 PM PST by Mugwump
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To: NewMediaJournal

I wouldn't exactly say that we have a "right" to hate. I'm going to include hating along with being hungry or getting sleepy or being happy or sad or loving or experiencing frustration. Hate is something that just happens as part of the human experience.

"Hate crime" laws are a way to up the ante on crimes against those in "protected classes." It is a corruption of the concept of law because identical crimes against those not in protected classes are considered lacking the same seriousness.

"Hate speech" is just a bludgeon used by one group of people to silence those outside that group. That disturbs me more than the idea of hate crimes does, and we have seen how easily it's been abused, from the Canadian pastor who is in jail for "criticizing" Islam, to the Mormon girl who responded to those who were picking on her (because of her religion) with "That's so gay." As far as I know, the kids picking on her have not been accused of hate speech.

If we want to have an authoritarian society, as opposed to a free one, this is the path to take.


36 posted on 03/05/2007 1:24:11 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Draft Fred Thompson!)
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To: Mugwump
I found his pic on google, not sure what set him off.

America, Apple-Pie, God ?? ..any number of things, including Dick Cheney.

I see HBO's still runs his show. ..but I don't watch it.

37 posted on 03/05/2007 1:41:57 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: indylindy

I am always coming from where I've been; but since I never go anywhere, I really never come.


38 posted on 03/05/2007 1:46:13 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

Psalm 139:19-22 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.


39 posted on 03/05/2007 1:47:34 PM PST by treffner
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To: NewMediaJournal

I hate the hate police.


40 posted on 03/05/2007 1:48:27 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P.)
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