Posted on 03/07/2007 6:28:29 AM PST by MadIvan
"Recruitment of gays? How many of them are there, and how many bother to vote?"
It's right there in the article.
"In fact, exit polls showed that self-identified gay people made up 4% of the total electorate in the incomparably close election of 2000, and nearly one third of those homosexual voters cast their ballots for George W. Bush."
If this is actually right, that would be more than 4 million homosexuals voting.
Yes there is. Michael Medved can bite me.
Regards, Ivan
Absolute nonsense. Conservatives need to state conservative principles and any person in agreement should join us. Medved sounds like Howard Dean. Medved thinks the border guards got exactly what they deserved which melds nicely with his stand on open borders! Please, the guy is a pompous movie critic.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
It is somewhat amusing how many people seem willing to step up and prove Medved's point without realising they're doing it.
Ivan
Faggot is not a forbidden slur.
It is quite common in art and literature, it is a slang word among youth of the last few decades, and it is also a description of a particular type of gay....the flaming, flamboyent, uber effeminate variety.
Personally, I don't have it at the high end of the Outrageous Word Scale. It's probably about a 5 or 6. The "N" word is a 10.
FWIW, Elton John gladly supported Eminem's work that was laced with the word faggot.
In recent days, I've seen arguments about how conservative goals can be achieved descend into accusations that one side is merely "traitorous liberals" in disguise. In terms of conservatives eating their own, Medved has a point.
As to the recruitment point - I would take at least some of that seriously. Without the African American vote, no Democrat can win the Oval Office.
Ivan
He claims that 4% of voters are homosexual and if that applies to the general population then there are 12,000,000 queers in the USA. I don't believe that number or anything close to it. That would mean that 4,000,000 voters in the last general election were gay.
I think that we need to stop expending so many resources during political campaigns courting "minority" votes. They absolutely won't vote for us and even after all the effort we only move the bar a few percentage points.
On the flip side of the coin, by pandering to such groups like illegal immigrants we wind up losing those that have been known to easily vote for us in the past, i.e. the Reagan coalition. This includes rural voters, blue collar voters, white catholic voters, and even suburban women. A platform of safety and security, capitalism and traditional values might lose a small number of voters that are unlikely to vote R anyway. But the reverse will wind up causing all of the others who are larger in numer and more apt to voting R, to disert the party. (2006 election)
So when your kid gets into trouble and he tells you that the other kids did worse......you say......oh, okay then?
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Good point, Ivan.
Calling people names may be gratifying for a moment, but any long term gain by doing so is hardly ever in evidence.
You don't understand the meaning of the word nor the context she was using it in. Yet, you have no problem accepting the definition handed to you by the Left. Do you really think you can play another man's game by his rules and win?
Thank God for people like Ann - to paraphrase a great man, "We can't spare this woman - she fights."
And you are not seeing what is going on. The problems isn't those saying she shouldn't have said it. I, for one, think the joke flopped (and it was not a smear aimed at homosexuals, btw, but a reference to speech codes, the Isaiah Washington incident and Edward's metrosexuality).
The problem is those demanding she be driven from polite company, (actually be made to grovel apologetically then driven from polite company) while, Edwards, who has actually hired and defended true bigots gets a pass. While Joe Wilson -- a proven liar and arguably a traitor-- gets a basically innocent man convicted of a crime and is given a movie deal. While, liars and smear artists like Michael Moore and Al Gore get Oscars.
I'm sick of it.
Keep fighting Annie!! Never apologize!!
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
This is politics we are talking about. Sometimes the appearance of a thing is just as important as what actually is. Discretion, modesty and courtesy are virtues, not signs of weakness.
Yes, it may not be fair, but life isn't fair. Everyone over the age of seven gets used to this.
Ivan
You'll get what you voted for. Vote wisely.
We should not ape their behaviour - particularly when our vocabulary is much better than theirs and can be used to deadlier effect.
Regards, Ivan
Ivan
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