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What's Happening to Conservative Websites?
vanity | 3-7-07 | Bob J

Posted on 03/07/2007 6:57:43 PM PST by Bob J

I have diligently watched the rise in size and influence of conservative websites, including Free Republic, over the last 7-8 years. I have been shocked and concerned over the drop in traffic at the most popular ones over the last year or so. There was good growth up until 2006 but since then there has been a steady downtrend that would crash any other market.

Anyone have any ideas as to what is happening? I'm out of explanations. The deficiencies in alexa.com are noted, but even if the numbers aren't accurate you're still comparing off numbers to off numbers so the decline is consistent.



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1 posted on 03/07/2007 6:57:44 PM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J

.....probably more choices to choose from......So many frigging sites any more these days......


2 posted on 03/07/2007 6:59:19 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Bob J

Elections


3 posted on 03/07/2007 7:00:19 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: Bob J

Once the liberals succeeded in getting us to fight amongst ourselves, instead of against them, things changed.


4 posted on 03/07/2007 7:00:34 PM PST by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: NorCalRepub

Can you nazme any big ones that rolled out in late '05 or during '06? I can only think of Breitbart.com.


5 posted on 03/07/2007 7:01:26 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

Probably the widening gulf of inconsistency between the stated philosophy and the real-life actions of the Republican Party got to be too much for many people.


6 posted on 03/07/2007 7:01:57 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: listenhillary

That's just it we usually do well in election years but we declined throughout '06.


7 posted on 03/07/2007 7:02:05 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

I'm guessing it's because the news for conservatives has been primarily bad for the last year. Even those who are supposedly on "our side" have betrayed the cause. It's no wonder people are spending time elsewhere.


8 posted on 03/07/2007 7:02:09 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: listenhillary

I think you're right. After a year or so of "Speaker Pelosi", I think the graph will begin to rise again.


9 posted on 03/07/2007 7:02:56 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: Bob J

What makes you think those numbers are correct?

Just because you saw it on the internet???
Ask Jim if they're correct or not before you go trying to diagnose the "problem."


(PS: I can tell you why Michelle Malkin's numbers are down: it relates to her stabbing other conservatives in the back - maybe just those that are blonder than her?)


10 posted on 03/07/2007 7:02:58 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Bob J

Loss of GOP power, disgust at Bush and the dearth of conservative 2008 presidential hopefuls are fueling discouragement among conservatives.

Many don't feel they have a horse in the race anymore.


11 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:13 PM PST by Tall_Texan (When you extend your hand to a Democrat, the only thing you can expect to get is rabies.)
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To: Bob J
You are comparing apples and oranges. As the market, that is individuals with internet access, increases, even if the number of folks tapping the sites remains constant, the market share will appear to decline.

We've also had a run of milder winters.

All of that means that a "year" a decade ago is simply not the same as a "year" currently.

Going a bit further we now have numerous discussion sites that've gone "private". They are password controlled and there's never going to be any new blood there. We have no idea what they're saying and they don't care. Their share will grow. That's because people get tired of listening to others' uninformed opinions and BS.

12 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:15 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Bob J

¿El partido republicano quizás?


13 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:20 PM PST by Enosh ()
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To: Bob J

They've all been infiltrated.


14 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:27 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: Bob J

Did you notice that most are going up? We are going down. FR has become more chatty as time goes by.


15 posted on 03/07/2007 7:03:58 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Bob J

God no, I can't....just speculating.....I read Real Clear Politics, Little Green Footballs, Redstate and Captain's Quarters though....all older then 2005


16 posted on 03/07/2007 7:04:20 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Bob J
No big deal, its the same thing in reverse that happened to the San Diego Chargers.
17 posted on 03/07/2007 7:04:21 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Bob J

Political wind is blowing against us. Leads to disenchantment, boredom, purges, etc. Witness the fight between Rudy and anti-Rudy FReepers, exchanges like that tend to drive people away, especially lurkers.


18 posted on 03/07/2007 7:04:43 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Bob J

Most of us are in a state of depression. The Republicans we elected 12 or so years ago turned out to be carbon copies of the Democrats they replaced.


19 posted on 03/07/2007 7:04:59 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: Bob J

I'm sure the bitchy Giuliani hags ragging on real conservatives who don't support pro-abortion, anti-gun candidates have something to do with it.


20 posted on 03/07/2007 7:05:09 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours! Keep scrubbing, Rudy supporters, the blood won't come off.)
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To: Bob J
More traffic during election cycles.
21 posted on 03/07/2007 7:05:46 PM PST by msnimje (If Giuliani is the Republican nominee we need a new Party Platform [or copy the Dem's])
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To: Bob J
Ummm...Bush's Fault? (TM)

(Well, somebody had to say it)

22 posted on 03/07/2007 7:06:01 PM PST by cf_river_rat (Just another defender of the faith)
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To: Bob J
If you like vitriol directed at one political candidate or another things are great now (I've been in that mood myself). But if your interests touch other sorts of topics, it's a real downer nowadays. Non-political threads (say medical or scientific) have been getting just a handful of replies and many of those are worthless retread "humor". I've been branching out to life beyond the computer myself to deal with it. A good thing (I mean the branching out).
23 posted on 03/07/2007 7:06:04 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Bob J

I have evolved as a conservative and am searching for a plan of action. I am sick of just reading headlines and talking about them. I want to do something. Maybe everyone is getting restless like me. I am ready for Texas and Oklahoma to withdraw from the Union!! I do not want to give my children a future consisting of the consequences of a liberal and corrupt government.


24 posted on 03/07/2007 7:06:04 PM PST by BeckB
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To: NittanyLion

I agree. It can get very discouraging and people need a break. But we must stay in the fight and not let the liberal bastards win.


25 posted on 03/07/2007 7:06:45 PM PST by unkus
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To: Bob J
Here's another one...


26 posted on 03/07/2007 7:08:18 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J

A lot of those other sites are interesting to visit, but Free Republic is the "home" site that conservatives return to. As far as the falling numbers, I hate to say it but I sense a certain malaise (or boredom?) that may be coincidental with the final years of an eight-year Republican Presidency. I have a feeling things will heat up again when the campaign season hits full stride.


27 posted on 03/07/2007 7:08:35 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Redbob

JimRob links to the Alexa database on the home page of FR.


28 posted on 03/07/2007 7:08:44 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: Bob J

Just another sign...the sky is falling!


29 posted on 03/07/2007 7:09:35 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Bob J
We need more crazy conspiracies. That is what drives the lefty sites traffic.
30 posted on 03/07/2007 7:09:50 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: muawiyah
These numbers are not based on market share they are based on numbers of people accessing a site. I guess you can say overall there are more people accessing more sites, but I cannot find any new debuts that are picking up all these new internet users.
31 posted on 03/07/2007 7:10:20 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Bump


32 posted on 03/07/2007 7:10:45 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Bob J
...but even if the numbers aren't accurate you're still comparing off numbers to off numbers so the decline is consistent.

This is not valid logic. Wrong data compared to wrong data can only produce a wrong conclusion.
33 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:02 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Bob J

Probably Bush's fault.


34 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:04 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: Bob J
Relative to other news forums Free Republic is still on top. There is less interest overall in news forums.

Alexa ratings are relative to the net as a whole. FR competes with all other sites for traffic and tends to have better traffic near elections or major news events like war.


35 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:14 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Bob J

Has Art Bell been informed?


36 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:23 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: gpapa

My bookmark goes right to the forum so Alexa doesn't even see me.


37 posted on 03/07/2007 7:11:35 PM PST by idkfa
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To: gotribe
"Probably Bush's fault."

That's a big part of it...and is soon to be followed by "Rudy's fault".

38 posted on 03/07/2007 7:12:05 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Bob J
Oh, hell, we are doomed. Conservatives are going the way of the T-Rex. We are doomed. Gone with the wind. Out of here. Long gone. Austalavista.
39 posted on 03/07/2007 7:12:53 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America has lost it's Effin' mind and will never recover.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Probably the widening gulf of inconsistency between the stated philosophy and the real-life actions of the Republican Party got to be too much for many people.





Yep


40 posted on 03/07/2007 7:13:06 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Bob J

DrudgeReport isn't "conservative", but it's fairly unbiased in general, which is just what most of us want.

Drudge and FoxNews may be drawing traffic away from us.


41 posted on 03/07/2007 7:13:08 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: BeckB
I am ready for Texas and Oklahoma to withdraw from the Union!!

I thought I was the only person that felt that way! I'm unhappy with the way America is right now, our founding fathers wouldn't even recognize their country now. The really sad thing is we are the best place - the rest of the world REALLY sucks!

42 posted on 03/07/2007 7:13:32 PM PST by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: Tall_Texan
"Many don't feel they have a horse in the race anymore."

Actually we have three ... if you just count the backend! ;-)

43 posted on 03/07/2007 7:14:14 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Bob J
One thing is that Alexa tracking cookies are rated as spyware by Lavasoft AdAware and Spybot Search and Destroy.

Every time I run Spybot Alexa gets cut-off. In fact, I think the latest memory-resident spybot keeps the cookie out.

With the rise of spyware many more people are taking measures to keep it out.

The point is, Alexa may not be giving an accurate reading of how many people are on this site.

44 posted on 03/07/2007 7:14:22 PM PST by LibKill (Rudy is willing to lie his way to power. Do not trust him, look at his record.)
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Conservatives spend more time nowadays "eating their own" rather than concentrating on the principles that drive us together. I heard today the Mike Savage says Bush is "worst" President ever.... the guy sounds like a raging dem. We are becoming the same fragmented mess the dems have become. Everyone seems to have their own agenda and priorities and damning those that don't have those priorities. Our conservative "leaders" have become self serving, and refuse to unite. We elected one leader, its ashame we can't follow his lead.


45 posted on 03/07/2007 7:14:23 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: starbase

"This is not valid logic. Wrong data compared to wrong data can only produce a wrong conclusion."

Not true, it depends on what information you are looking at. Let me use the thermometer example. You got a good one that reads 70 degrees duringthe day than drops to 65 degrees at night. Then you got bad one that is off by 10 degrees. It may read 60 degrees and drop to 55 on the same night as the good one, but they both accurately recorded the 5 degrees drop.


46 posted on 03/07/2007 7:14:43 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Bob J
There was good growth up until 2006 but since then there has been a steady downtrend that would crash any other market.
Anyone have any ideas as to what is happening? I'm out of explanations

Trolls that were pretending to be outraged conservatives ???

47 posted on 03/07/2007 7:14:49 PM PST by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: BeckB
I am ready for Texas and Oklahoma to withdraw from the Union!!

That's rich, the two states that are head long into selling their highways to middle eastern oil investors are going to be your hope. :)

48 posted on 03/07/2007 7:15:04 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I'm sure the bitchy Giuliani hags ragging on real conservatives who don't support pro-abortion, anti-gun candidates have something to do with it.




Nail on Head....for sure.


49 posted on 03/07/2007 7:15:12 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Bob J
Bob, we don't have problems like MSNBC.


50 posted on 03/07/2007 7:15:53 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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