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Vote Yes or No on Rudy
The Brody File ^ | March 8, 2007 | David Brody

Posted on 03/08/2007 6:23:01 AM PST by TommyDale

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To: The_Reader_David

Dear The_Reader_David,

"At that point, while I realize some disagree with me, it seems that it becomes a matter of what the Latins call prudential judgement whether it is better to vote for Giuliani in the general election, or to make a witness by voting for a pro-life candidate doomed to electoral failure, thereby guaranteeing that not merely a pro-abortion candidate is elected, but one committed to withdrawal from the fight to defend Western civilization (both Christian and secular) against the Jihad, one committed to installing activist pro-abortion judges on the bench (Guiliani is wrong on the issue, but at least *seems* to recognize that it should be decided by the political process, not unelected judges), one committed to the continued aggressive secularization of American society."

As a "Latin," my own "prudential judgment" is that if one's house is on fire, it is better to avoid burning down the firehouse.

If we elect a pro-abortion Republican to the presidency, I believe that the Republican Party will become a pro-abortion party. The cause of life may find itself in the political wilderness for some time to come.

"Should Guiliani get the nomination, the optimal outcome might well be for the pro-life movement to split, with enough voting for him that he wins (and telling exit-pollers that they held their nose to vote for him), and enough making the witness for life that it gets noticed."

If Mr. Giuliani gets the nomination, there is no question at all that many folks who self-identify as "pro-life" will vote for him. I would rather the alternative occur, that he would be defeated, so that it's clear that Republicans will lose if they nominate pro-deathers for the presidency.


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41 posted on 03/08/2007 7:06:52 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: TommyDale

NO!!!!


42 posted on 03/08/2007 7:08:15 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: TommyDale

Making a deal with Rudy to protect us from Hillary is a bit like making a deal with the devil.

Who will protect us from President Rudy when he comes for our guns and supports abortion and gays.
Rudy did clean up New york,but the methods he used were really close to the Constitutional and legal line. Will he step over as President?

Better than Hillary? Its like the devil or the deep blue sea. Most anything is better than Hillary,but we have more choices right now,and I will leave them open.


43 posted on 03/08/2007 7:15:17 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: TommyDale

No!


44 posted on 03/08/2007 7:20:39 AM PST by aimee5291
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To: mkjessup; Calpernia; TommyDale
I doubt Giuliani will make it to the General. Matter of fact, I'm sure he is stepping out of the race before then......

Political analyst Charles Cook told Newsday that the latest twist (when his son went public about problems caused by Rudy's third wife) would hurt Giuliani with the GOP's conservative voters. "This is just going to be one of a thousand cuts," Cook told the newspaper. "This will just sort of fit into a whole constellation of issues that work against someone winning a conservative party's nomination, a party that thinks of itself as a pro-family party. This just makes it really hard."

One news report poll indicated 88% of those polled had a problem with a father not attending his son's graduation.

This is newsworthy only b/c Mayor Rudeo is being packaged for public consumption as St Rudy. When facts emerge that don't fit the image being spun, it becomes a major story.

That's not the voters' problem. It's Rudeo's problem. He should have thought of the consequences when he made these life decisions.

45 posted on 03/08/2007 7:35:36 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: buck61

My exact feelings about Rudi. NO.


46 posted on 03/08/2007 7:37:38 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America has lost it's Effin' mind and will never recover.)
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To: Bosco
Freepers have already voted on Rudy - twice. Rudy came in second to Newt Gingrich, and Rudy is now coming in second to Fred Thompson.

Rudy also lost the CPAC straw poll, and lost the all-important conservative SC straw poll.

47 posted on 03/08/2007 7:37:39 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: EternalVigilance; TommyDale
"Rooty's function in this race is to pull the party to the left, for the purpose of eventually making someone to the left of GW Bush palatable to enough folks to win the nomination. The result? A crushing loss to the Democrats, for which the RINOs will once again blame conservatives.

They tried the left-swing foolishness last year, and got the Nov 2006 debacle for their troubles. RNC Kenny was shown the door---and surprise---mow he's flacking Rudy.

It's all part of The Plan by the power-hungry Everything-For-Us-Nothing-For-Conservatives types to ditch social conservatves off the Repub party flotilla.

48 posted on 03/08/2007 7:44:45 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: RabidBartender

a Giuliani win would be worse for the conservative movement and the country as a whole, than would a Hillary presidency




#1 sure sign of full blown RDS (Rudy Derangement Syndrome)


49 posted on 03/08/2007 7:44:49 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Liz

And the thousand cuts don't even have to open up into his personal relationship with his son. He can explain his membership to Stonewall. That is a major cut right there. That really has to be the only cut. But the media and political analysts will want blood. That will mean his family. Or step aside and leave his family business out of the spotlight.


50 posted on 03/08/2007 7:45:20 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Liz

I wonder who could do some research and see if Ken Mehlman has been active in any pro-homosexual political groups? Is that his real hidden agenda? Just curious.


51 posted on 03/08/2007 7:47:04 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Liz

Yep. And their supposed "big tent" will be flat on the ground. Whoops.


52 posted on 03/08/2007 7:49:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Blackirish

Actually, it makes sense. If we keep dumbing down the GOP, the conservative movement will eventually eliminated. Is that the real goal?


53 posted on 03/08/2007 7:49:55 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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54 posted on 03/08/2007 7:51:46 AM PST by Artemis Webb (Be a REAL conservative. Stay home and pout so Hillary can win!)
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To: TommyDale

If we let Hillary or Gore pick the SCOTUS choices for the next 8 years, the social conservative movement will eventually eliminated for our lifetimes.

Fixed it.


55 posted on 03/08/2007 7:53:14 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: TommyDale
NO

56 posted on 03/08/2007 7:54:54 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: TommyDale; Calpernia
...is Ken Mehlman active in pro-homosexual political groups? Is that his real hidden agenda? ....

One notorious incident erupted----Kenny leaked (gave) Log Cabin Republicans top secret White House political strategy info. Mehlman offered to resign over the incident--but the WH refused the offer.

57 posted on 03/08/2007 7:55:55 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: TommyDale

Michael Rogers of blogACTIVE.com said Ken Mehlman belonged to Log Cabin Republicans.

Rudy Giuliani is a Log Cabin Republican and Ken is working with his campaign.

I think it is a fair assumption that he [Ken] is LCR.


58 posted on 03/08/2007 7:56:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Blackirish
"#1 sure sign of full blown RDS (Rudy Derangement Syndrome)"

1. Selective cut and pasting.

2. Failure to address any opinions mentioned in the post.

3. Insult.

At least you didn't scream "FLOPSWEAT". But thanks for reading my post, at least.

59 posted on 03/08/2007 7:56:25 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Is this EV's sock puppet?..all insults no input?


60 posted on 03/08/2007 7:57:02 AM PST by Blackirish
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