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Infamous Dred Scott slavery case decision took place 150 years ago this week
kansascitykansan.com ^ | Thursday, March 8, 2007 | BRYAN F. Le BEAU

Posted on 03/08/2007 9:07:26 AM PST by lunarbicep

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1 posted on 03/08/2007 9:07:32 AM PST by lunarbicep
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To: lunarbicep
Stare decisis! Stare decisis! Its sacred!!!!
/sarcasm
2 posted on 03/08/2007 9:09:00 AM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: lunarbicep

Some progress.

Now it's a fetus that has "no rights which the white man was bound to respect.”


3 posted on 03/08/2007 9:09:44 AM PST by Scarchin (+)
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To: lunarbicep

7 Democratic judges and 2 Republican judges(or what would become Republican judges - the party was only 3 years old in 1857).


4 posted on 03/08/2007 9:11:04 AM PST by RexBeach (BRUSHA)
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To: RexBeach

Oh Lord! Wait for the apologies to fly!


5 posted on 03/08/2007 9:11:57 AM PST by LYSandra
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To: lunarbicep
African Americans were not citizens of the United States. Therefore Scott could not use the federal courts to sue for his freedom.

So if precedent is taken as law, why is not this decision brought to bear on current situations with terror suspects and illegal immigrants?

Yes, Virginia...it was a rhetorical question.

6 posted on 03/08/2007 9:15:00 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: RexBeach
Democratic judges and 2 Republican judges...

didn't the two Republicans dissent?

7 posted on 03/08/2007 9:15:36 AM PST by lunarbicep (Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain)
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To: lunarbicep; All

Yes, see http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com for details.


8 posted on 03/08/2007 9:17:23 AM PST by since 1854 (http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com)
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To: RexBeach

One of those Republican justices sought the Republican presidential nomination the year before Dred Scott.


9 posted on 03/08/2007 9:18:45 AM PST by since 1854 (http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com)
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To: lunarbicep

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1797381/posts

bills on Hill to apologize to Indians, blacks.....


10 posted on 03/08/2007 9:24:08 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: LYSandra

Writing for the majority, Justice William Scott (not related to Dred Scott) praised God for instituting slavery, whereby men like Dred Scott could be elevated above the level of “miserable” Africans. “The introduction of slavery amongst us,” he continued, was “in the providence of God, who makes the evil passions of men subservient to His own glory, a means of placing that unhappy race within the pale of civilized nations.”


I know Justice William Scott and Taney were in for a very rude awakening when they went to meet God. I am pretty sure if they did somehow make it to heaven they are seriously regretting their decisions. I would have paid to see how Justice Scott explain this to God. I am pretty sure a lot of them found out in the end the error of their ways.


11 posted on 03/08/2007 9:24:38 AM PST by YoungSoutherner (To be young and conservative)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Good point - Although I suspect the civil war amendments likely had something to do with terrorists having civil rights. Another shocker is the Supreme Court protecting property rights of slave owners - but they won't protect land owner property rights now!


12 posted on 03/08/2007 9:32:07 AM PST by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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To: lunarbicep
The Court ruled that despite precedents dating back over sixty years, slaves could not be barred from any U.S. territories by an act of Congress or even of a territorial government. ...it foreshadowed how the Court would rule in future cases, even suggesting that the Court would declare state legislation outlawing slavery unconstitutional, it sent shock ways (sic) throughout the nation.

The Court's first major effort at rewriting the Constitution so that it would say what it "should say," rather than what it does say.

The single biggest factor leading to the Civil War, this decision turned out to be an utter disaster for its own side.

It is fascinating that 7 of 9 judges were obviously southern in their sympathies, a reasonably good marker for the degree of southern influence in the federal government as a whole at the time.

When they saw they were losing this influence, largely as a direct result of this idiotic decision, they chose to jump overboard, dragging the rest of the country with them.

13 posted on 03/08/2007 9:33:07 AM PST by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: YoungSoutherner

Slavery is practically condoned in the Bible (New and Old Testament), but that was over 2,000 years ago. What was right for a society in 500 BC isn't right for a rapidly industrialized economy.

Slavery wasn't an evil in a Subsistance, agricultural country. The alternative is that many of the slaves would have just perished.

Obviously, slavery has no place in a modern economy.

Too bad Abraham Lincoln and the Southern Firebrands did not
have the wisdom to understand that slavery was doomed to extinction, with or without a murderous Civil War.


14 posted on 03/08/2007 9:35:37 AM PST by DeerfieldObserver
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To: lunarbicep

It was the far 2007 and fear and collective guilt continued to grip our people...

"You have nothing to fear but fear itself."


15 posted on 03/08/2007 9:38:25 AM PST by baubau (BOYCOTT Bank of America for Issuing Credit Cards to 3rd World Illegal Aliens.)
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To: lunarbicep

Here is a link to the dissent of Justice Curtis:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford/Dissent_Curtis


16 posted on 03/08/2007 9:43:13 AM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey
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To: lunarbicep
If Jefferson's first draft of the Declaration of Independence was used, then slavery might have been outlawed in the Constitution.

And some Americans wouldn't still be waxing lyrical about the UK as the "mother country." (It's an ally, intrinsically the same as Germany, Japan, Australia, South Korea, etc.).

17 posted on 03/08/2007 9:43:16 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: lunarbicep

Yup, sure did.


18 posted on 03/08/2007 9:45:14 AM PST by RexBeach (BRUSHA)
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To: DeerfieldObserver
Too bad Abraham Lincoln and the Southern Firebrands did not have the wisdom to understand that slavery was doomed to extinction, with or without a murderous Civil War.

The Industrial Revolution was still in its beginnings when these events took place. The Steam Engine had not yet become the mainstay of the entire economy from ag sector to heavy mfg. Had the Civil War not taken place, slavery would probably have lasted to the end of the century........

19 posted on 03/08/2007 9:50:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: stainlessbanner

ping...


20 posted on 03/08/2007 9:52:25 AM PST by CurlyBill (Democrats: Weak on defense, soft on crime, tough on your wallet)
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