Skip to comments.Democrats Want Gitmo Prisoners Sent to U.S. (Quantico & Norfolk, VA!)
Posted on 03/08/2007 12:07:43 PM PST by ReagansRaiders
Key House Democrats plan to insist the Pentagon shut down the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and are contemplating the relocation of many of the 385 or so remaining terrorist suspects to military brigs along the East Coast -- including Quantico, Va., and Charleston, S.C.
"It sets us back in the war on terrorism to be maintaining Guantanamo," said Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), who's heading an investigation of the facility for the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.
"It will enhance our reputation to close it down and to apply our system of justice to all of these detainees," he added.
After two trips to Guantanamo, Moran told The Politico that he's recommending Congress cut funding to the detention center at the end of summer 2008. The men held there should then be released, tried or moved to the United States, he said.
A Democratic official involved in developing the Guantanamo strategy said the Democrats, who control the new Congress, expect Republicans to object to bringing the detainees onto U.S. soil because their attorneys would surely argue they were entitled to myriad new rights.
The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Democrats are planning hearings in April or May to "build a record" that closing Guantanamo would be beneficial and that it would be legal, as well as logistically feasible, to bring its detainees to the United States. The hearings would start with panels of lawyers, some of whom are convinced the plan is workable and some of whom represent detainees now at Guantanamo.
And to make the measure more palatable to Republicans, Moran said he would suggest the detainees be transferred to military bases that would allow them to be tried in federal courts under the Richmond-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
"Republicans certainly could not consider that a mollycoddling, liberal bastion," Moran said. "The 4th Circuit is as conservative as you get. But the whole world would see that the United States stands for the rule of law. And I think the high-value targets would be shown to be people who undoubtedly should be detained and prosecuted.
"But you've got to distinguish among these people," he said. "We have to prove they actually did something that was designed to hurt American citizens."
A senior administration official, also speaking on the condition of anonymity, said he was puzzled by the Democrats' frequent discussion of closing Guantanamo.
"While we want to bring these guys to trial as quickly as possible, where do Democrats believe we should keep Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 plot?" the official asked. "Which American city will they choose to place America's most wanted terrorists?"
The Democratic official said the plan would be to relocate the terrorists to military brigs that have suitable courtrooms. In addition to Quantico and Charleston, many could go to Fort Leavenworth, Kan., or to the Norfolk Naval Station, which has four courtrooms.
Still other possibilities include the Marine Corps Air Station in Beaufort, S.C., and Fort Gordon, Fort Stewart and Hunter Army Airfield, all in Georgia.
In the flush of taking control of the House in January, Democrats had talked about pushing to close Guantanamo immediately, perhaps as part of the emergency wartime funding bill that is now pending. But they had trouble settling on a strategy for that bill and now are considering a shutdown directive in the overall defense appropriations bill for the 2008 fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.
The prison camp at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay has been a constant headache for the Bush administration, which has been accused of holding innocent people there indefinitely. Hunger strikes, suicides and accusations of inappropriate interrogations have plagued the facility, home to what the White House calls some of the world's most dangerous terrorists.
U.S. allies abroad have complained about Guantanamo as well. And the president has said that he would like to close it down but that there is no other place to hold the detainees.
Asked about the furor that could erupt in local communities chosen to receive the detainees, Moran noted that the brigs were secure and that most of the detainees had not "been involved in any combat."
"Many of them have never engaged in any act of violence," Moran said. "Some of them hold beliefs that are anathema to ours, but we have a tradition that we don't punish people for their beliefs but rather for their actions."
* TOTAL LIBERAL INSANITY *
I'm willing to do a trade. Send Pelosi, et al to Gitmo, and bring the Gitmo prisoners to Alcatraz.
This will be called the "GREAT SCOTT" Decision............
Jim Maroon, ask Hillary if she needs a cheap re-education center.
Why? So we can coddle them? DemonRATS are such idiots.
385 prisoners? Put one in each Democrat House member's office, and one or two in each Democrat Senators's office. Easy solution.
He's fulfilling Osama's wish.
"that would allow them to be tried in federal courts"
OBL said they would use our institutions against us. These terrorists will be "tried" and if cleared (which, let's face it, will probably happen since forensic teams weren't following these bozos around gathering evidence against them) released IN the US.
WTG Moran - you are officially aiding and abetting the enemy.
It's called reuniting the family!
The detainees need to be set free one at a time.
They should be told that they have 5 minutest to get in to the water and swim to Haiti. If they make it to Haiti, they're free to go 'cuz Allah (En-shala) willed it.
Each one should also be provide a lensatic compass and provided a headding.
If they fail to get in the water and start swimming toward Haiti, and or deviate from the headding, Bang!
If they drown on the way to Haiti, En-shala, Allah willed that too.
I thought that was spelled "fabricate".
Next, they''ll want to register them to vote............
I'm a little surprised that the Libs didn't suggest that we arm the Gitmo prisoners.
Works for me with one addition. They have to take the DEMONCRATS with them.
> apply our system of justice to all of these detainees
Our system of justice is anarchy thanks to liberal activists.
loonie tunie libs...They are to stupid to realise more and more people are waking up to their irresponsable plans and lunatic legislation...They are a laughing stock! They are doing everything they can to unravel this country. They won't succeed. THose who fight the USA now, regret it later.
I would be in favor of this if, in exchange, the proponents of this plan were to relocate to the facilities vacated by the individuals they are so anxious to assist!
Turn them over to the Kurds. Problem solved.
Once they set foot on real US soil they can claim Refugee Status and get on Welfare!
Yet another act of treachery by
the treasonous Slave wannabe
In the 80's, Ft. McCoy, WI was "home" to all those escaped mental patients and murderers that Carter decided to scrape up off the shores of Florida when they landed here by boat after Castro released them.
These people were scary because they were nuts. I can just imagine the dregs we'll get if the Gitmo Gang is moved into our states!
One of these Cuban lunatics stabbed my co-worker to death in full view of her young daughter. Lorae Love. I'll never forget you, Lorae. I'll do what I can to keep Evil at bay, but it ain't easy with the idiot Democraps in power in Congress these days. *SIGH*
If they want to put their families in danger that's their business. If they put my family in danger it becomes my business.
You want to close Gitmo....fine. We can do that.
For the so-called detainees, we will just execute them. They are not coming to the continental US nor are they going to be released, not are they going to get trials. They're going to get a meal of pork, dowsed with pigs blood and a double tap to the head and that's it.
Why yes, it is.
They should be sent to Congressmans Jim morans house and he should gurad them. let them throw feces at him for a while and see how he likes it. Stupid is as stupid does,. The last thing we need in this country are these Jihadists.
Release them at the next DNC convention.
Or propose the Dems "adopt a terrorist" and keep them in their homes, with their children. If the terrorist does anything, the person who has 'adopted' them gets punished as well. That would shut them up quickly.
Not bad, but isn't there a state in 2008 that needs to be turned for conservatives? Massachusetts comes to mind.
Quantico? Norfolk Naval Station?
Do the libs really want the terrorists to each meet their 72 Virginians.
So the enemy POWs can get free ACLU representation and tell us how mean we are in court.
I don't want these people in the US. We already have enough people here who shouldn't be.
Representative Moron is probably trying a bait and switch. Bring them onshore and then pass legislation that grants them habeus corpus and access to federal courts. The Administration should take up the challenge. Get them all tried and executed, I mean sentenced, before President Bush's term ends.
Moron is on Fox right now.
Does he realize that we're doing them a favor by not shooting them in the head?
They are unlawful combatants captured on the field of battle.