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Democrats Want Gitmo Prisoners Sent to U.S. (Quantico & Norfolk, VA!)
The Politico ^ | March 8, 2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 03/08/2007 12:07:43 PM PST by ReagansRaiders

Key House Democrats plan to insist the Pentagon shut down the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and are contemplating the relocation of many of the 385 or so remaining terrorist suspects to military brigs along the East Coast -- including Quantico, Va., and Charleston, S.C.

"It sets us back in the war on terrorism to be maintaining Guantanamo," said Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), who's heading an investigation of the facility for the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee.

"It will enhance our reputation to close it down and to apply our system of justice to all of these detainees," he added.

After two trips to Guantanamo, Moran told The Politico that he's recommending Congress cut funding to the detention center at the end of summer 2008. The men held there should then be released, tried or moved to the United States, he said.

A Democratic official involved in developing the Guantanamo strategy said the Democrats, who control the new Congress, expect Republicans to object to bringing the detainees onto U.S. soil because their attorneys would surely argue they were entitled to myriad new rights.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Democrats are planning hearings in April or May to "build a record" that closing Guantanamo would be beneficial and that it would be legal, as well as logistically feasible, to bring its detainees to the United States. The hearings would start with panels of lawyers, some of whom are convinced the plan is workable and some of whom represent detainees now at Guantanamo.

And to make the measure more palatable to Republicans, Moran said he would suggest the detainees be transferred to military bases that would allow them to be tried in federal courts under the Richmond-based 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

"Republicans certainly could not consider that a mollycoddling, liberal bastion," Moran said. "The 4th Circuit is as conservative as you get. But the whole world would see that the United States stands for the rule of law. And I think the high-value targets would be shown to be people who undoubtedly should be detained and prosecuted.

"But you've got to distinguish among these people," he said. "We have to prove they actually did something that was designed to hurt American citizens."

A senior administration official, also speaking on the condition of anonymity, said he was puzzled by the Democrats' frequent discussion of closing Guantanamo.

"While we want to bring these guys to trial as quickly as possible, where do Democrats believe we should keep Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 plot?" the official asked. "Which American city will they choose to place America's most wanted terrorists?"

The Democratic official said the plan would be to relocate the terrorists to military brigs that have suitable courtrooms. In addition to Quantico and Charleston, many could go to Fort Leavenworth, Kan., or to the Norfolk Naval Station, which has four courtrooms.

Still other possibilities include the Marine Corps Air Station in Beaufort, S.C., and Fort Gordon, Fort Stewart and Hunter Army Airfield, all in Georgia.

In the flush of taking control of the House in January, Democrats had talked about pushing to close Guantanamo immediately, perhaps as part of the emergency wartime funding bill that is now pending. But they had trouble settling on a strategy for that bill and now are considering a shutdown directive in the overall defense appropriations bill for the 2008 fiscal year that begins Oct. 1.

The prison camp at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay has been a constant headache for the Bush administration, which has been accused of holding innocent people there indefinitely. Hunger strikes, suicides and accusations of inappropriate interrogations have plagued the facility, home to what the White House calls some of the world's most dangerous terrorists.

U.S. allies abroad have complained about Guantanamo as well. And the president has said that he would like to close it down but that there is no other place to hold the detainees.

Asked about the furor that could erupt in local communities chosen to receive the detainees, Moran noted that the brigs were secure and that most of the detainees had not "been involved in any combat."

"Many of them have never engaged in any act of violence," Moran said. "Some of them hold beliefs that are anathema to ours, but we have a tradition that we don't punish people for their beliefs but rather for their actions."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; brianmoran; enemywithin; insane; jimmoran; moonbats; norfolk; quantico; wot
Once again, Jim Moran proves that he is insane.
1 posted on 03/08/2007 12:07:48 PM PST by ReagansRaiders
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To: ReagansRaiders

* TOTAL LIBERAL INSANITY *


2 posted on 03/08/2007 12:08:39 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: ReagansRaiders

I'm willing to do a trade. Send Pelosi, et al to Gitmo, and bring the Gitmo prisoners to Alcatraz.


3 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:31 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
I think we should house the prisoners from Gitmo in the demoncrats homes.

Murtha can take a dozen.
4 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:35 PM PST by BMC1 (11/7/06 THE DAY WE LOST THE WAR. TERRORISTS AND THE TERRORIST LOVING DEMONCRATS ARE NOW IN CONTROL.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

This will be called the "GREAT SCOTT" Decision............


5 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:45 PM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: ReagansRaiders
THEY ARE INSANE!!!!
6 posted on 03/08/2007 12:09:59 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Jim Maroon, ask Hillary if she needs a cheap re-education center.


7 posted on 03/08/2007 12:10:27 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ReagansRaiders

Why? So we can coddle them? DemonRATS are such idiots.


8 posted on 03/08/2007 12:10:52 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
Moran The Mor - On!
9 posted on 03/08/2007 12:12:17 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

385 prisoners? Put one in each Democrat House member's office, and one or two in each Democrat Senators's office. Easy solution.


10 posted on 03/08/2007 12:13:10 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: ReagansRaiders

He's fulfilling Osama's wish.

"that would allow them to be tried in federal courts"

OBL said they would use our institutions against us. These terrorists will be "tried" and if cleared (which, let's face it, will probably happen since forensic teams weren't following these bozos around gathering evidence against them) released IN the US.


WTG Moran - you are officially aiding and abetting the enemy.


11 posted on 03/08/2007 12:13:58 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
I don't understand the Democrat Party's reasoning here... there are only a few hundred detainees at Club Gitmo, they would need many more than that to be brought into the USA to tip future elections to their favor.
12 posted on 03/08/2007 12:15:39 PM PST by pnh102
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To: ReagansRaiders
Democrats want Gitmo Prisoners to U.S.

It's called reuniting the family!

13 posted on 03/08/2007 12:16:28 PM PST by nctexan (Top 10 Presidential Reqs. for 2008 - see my homepage)
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To: ReagansRaiders

The detainees need to be set free one at a time.

They should be told that they have 5 minutest to get in to the water and swim to Haiti. If they make it to Haiti, they're free to go 'cuz Allah (En-shala) willed it.

Each one should also be provide a lensatic compass and provided a headding.

If they fail to get in the water and start swimming toward Haiti, and or deviate from the headding, Bang!

If they drown on the way to Haiti, En-shala, Allah willed that too.


14 posted on 03/08/2007 12:16:51 PM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: ReagansRaiders
"build a record" that closing Guantanamo would be beneficial

I thought that was spelled "fabricate".

15 posted on 03/08/2007 12:20:40 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: nctexan

Next, they''ll want to register them to vote............


16 posted on 03/08/2007 12:20:56 PM PST by Red Badger (Britney Spears shaved her head............Well, that's one way of getting rid of headlice.........)
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To: AlaskaErik
This is nothing more than another liberal power grab. If we leave them alone and leave them there the murderers are beyond the reach of the ACLU and other legal arms of the socialist democratic party. These detainees are nothing more than a pawn for more power. As things are right now these detainees are beyond the reach of US courts because they are on foreign soil and will stay out of reach of liberal judges as long as they stay on foreign soil. The USSC has already found this to be good law. Now they want to bring them here so they can use them for political games.
This is nothing but a huge power grab on the part of the dimwits. We are at war. The dimwits just don't get it.
17 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:07 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: ReagansRaiders

I'm a little surprised that the Libs didn't suggest that we arm the Gitmo prisoners.


18 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:42 PM PST by Haroldson
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To: roaddog727

Works for me with one addition. They have to take the DEMONCRATS with them.


19 posted on 03/08/2007 12:21:44 PM PST by BMC1 (OVER AND OVER LIBERALS PROVE THEY ARE MENTALLY UNSTABLE)
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To: EagleUSA

> apply our system of justice to all of these detainees

Our system of justice is anarchy thanks to liberal activists.


20 posted on 03/08/2007 12:22:39 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: ReagansRaiders

loonie tunie libs...They are to stupid to realise more and more people are waking up to their irresponsable plans and lunatic legislation...They are a laughing stock! They are doing everything they can to unravel this country. They won't succeed. THose who fight the USA now, regret it later.


21 posted on 03/08/2007 12:24:52 PM PST by Edgerunner (Better RED state than DEAD state)
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To: ReagansRaiders
Key House Democrats plan to insist the Pentagon shut down the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and are contemplating the relocation of many of the 385 or so remaining terrorist suspects to military brigs along the East Coast -- including Quantico, Va., and Charleston, S.C.

I would be in favor of this if, in exchange, the proponents of this plan were to relocate to the facilities vacated by the individuals they are so anxious to assist!

22 posted on 03/08/2007 12:27:16 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Edgerunner

Turn them over to the Kurds. Problem solved.


23 posted on 03/08/2007 12:27:46 PM PST by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: Edgerunner

Once they set foot on real US soil they can claim Refugee Status and get on Welfare!


24 posted on 03/08/2007 12:27:59 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Yet another act of treachery by
the treasonous Slave wannabe
DimoSocialists.


25 posted on 03/08/2007 12:29:44 PM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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To: Edgerunner
Looney toons are more than stupid, they are playing with fire.

Their hatred for President Bush is so strong, they don't seem to realize they are putting their own families in danger.

I guess if they don't care, I shouldn't either. I will protect my own.
26 posted on 03/08/2007 12:31:28 PM PST by BMC1 (LIBERALISM TRULY IS A MENTAL DISORDER)
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To: ReagansRaiders

In the 80's, Ft. McCoy, WI was "home" to all those escaped mental patients and murderers that Carter decided to scrape up off the shores of Florida when they landed here by boat after Castro released them.

These people were scary because they were nuts. I can just imagine the dregs we'll get if the Gitmo Gang is moved into our states!

One of these Cuban lunatics stabbed my co-worker to death in full view of her young daughter. Lorae Love. I'll never forget you, Lorae. I'll do what I can to keep Evil at bay, but it ain't easy with the idiot Democraps in power in Congress these days. *SIGH*


27 posted on 03/08/2007 12:33:09 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: BMC1
Their hatred for President Bush is so strong, they don't seem to realize they are putting their own families in danger.

If they want to put their families in danger that's their business. If they put my family in danger it becomes my business.

28 posted on 03/08/2007 12:36:08 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: EagleUSA

You want to close Gitmo....fine. We can do that.

For the so-called detainees, we will just execute them. They are not coming to the continental US nor are they going to be released, not are they going to get trials. They're going to get a meal of pork, dowsed with pigs blood and a double tap to the head and that's it.


29 posted on 03/08/2007 12:36:11 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
Is this not the same Moran who is a drunkard, beats his wife, and abuses little black children in recreation center parking lots?
30 posted on 03/08/2007 12:37:13 PM PST by quark
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To: quark

Why yes, it is.


31 posted on 03/08/2007 12:40:08 PM PST by ReagansRaiders (JIM GILMORE '08)
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To: ReagansRaiders

They should be sent to Congressmans Jim morans house and he should gurad them. let them throw feces at him for a while and see how he likes it. Stupid is as stupid does,. The last thing we need in this country are these Jihadists.


32 posted on 03/08/2007 12:49:49 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Release them at the next DNC convention.

Or propose the Dems "adopt a terrorist" and keep them in their homes, with their children. If the terrorist does anything, the person who has 'adopted' them gets punished as well. That would shut them up quickly.


33 posted on 03/08/2007 12:52:46 PM PST by tearlenb
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To: ReagansRaiders
We have
Gitmo's Guerrilla Lawyers
to thank for this insanity.
34 posted on 03/08/2007 1:45:38 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: tearlenb
Release them at the next DNC convention.

Not bad, but isn't there a state in 2008 that needs to be turned for conservatives? Massachusetts comes to mind.

35 posted on 03/08/2007 1:49:19 PM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Quantico? Norfolk Naval Station?
Do the libs really want the terrorists to each meet their 72 Virginians.


36 posted on 03/08/2007 1:57:42 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: AlaskaErik

So the enemy POWs can get free ACLU representation and tell us how mean we are in court.


37 posted on 03/08/2007 2:50:06 PM PST by omega4179 (Unless you're telling me that John Edwards is gay, it was not applied to a gay person)
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To: ReagansRaiders

I don't want these people in the US. We already have enough people here who shouldn't be.


38 posted on 03/08/2007 4:12:04 PM PST by virgil
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To: ReagansRaiders
Congress has finally passed legislation that specifies how these prisoners are to be handled (Military Commissions Act). There's no need to keep them out of CONUS anymore.

Representative Moron is probably trying a bait and switch. Bring them onshore and then pass legislation that grants them habeus corpus and access to federal courts. The Administration should take up the challenge. Get them all tried and executed, I mean sentenced, before President Bush's term ends.

39 posted on 03/08/2007 7:00:58 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: ReagansRaiders

Moron is on Fox right now.

Does he realize that we're doing them a favor by not shooting them in the head?

They are unlawful combatants captured on the field of battle.


40 posted on 03/10/2007 5:41:07 AM PST by angkor
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To: ReagansRaiders
Thank the Lord these "key" democRATS aren't CInC. What they are are richard heads.

5.56mm

41 posted on 03/10/2007 5:43:31 AM PST by M Kehoe
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