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Down To Business: Talent Shortage? Employers Must Take Some Of The Rap
Information Week ^
| 03/05/2007
| Rob Preston
Posted on 03/08/2007 12:35:23 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Sweeping government programs are all well and goodActually, sweeping government programs are pretty much all bad. In fact, you could say that just about any shortage of workers is caused significantly by two "sweeping government programs": government education and abortion.
(Yes, I know it's a stretch calling abortion a government program, but I was going with the trope. Think figuratively!)
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:37:57 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
To: SirLinksalot
I work in IT program management. I started as a programmer and firmly believe that my technical skills make me a better program and project manager because I have a feel for what the software developers need to do their job correctly. And I also wonder where the next generation of project management is going to come from if we continue to decimate the domestic software development pool. I lead project managers without any technical background and I find they're not as effective as those who do have that experience.
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:41:30 PM PST
by
Non-Sequitur
(Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
To: SirLinksalot
"Tech Talent Shotage ? Employers Must Take Some of the Rap" is not the title of the published article.
Please do not alter titles.
To: SirLinksalot
"...new skills, new locations, new industries."
My COBOL/FORTRAN/Burroughs' skills aren't good enough....
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:43:56 PM PST
by
dakine
To: dakine
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:47:27 PM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: SirLinksalot
The real problem is that there is a semi artificial deflationary market environment. With all the Communist and quasi Communist countries now dumping and undercutting Western prices, companies are under immense cost reduction pressure. This leads to that "you're luck you have a job, we could RIF you any minute" mentality, etc. Maybe Freaked Trade is not what it was depicted to be.
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:48:17 PM PST
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: sionnsar
hahaha....On the resume somewhere...
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:50:00 PM PST
by
dakine
To: SirLinksalot
For one thing, "employee engagement" is near an all-time low, observes Tom Casey, VP of human capital at the Concours Group. That's management consulting speak for the fact that tech pros are demoralized, thanks to knee-jerk offshore outsourcing and the post-bubble malaise. Many of their employers hail from the "you should be happy you have a job" school of management. As a result, Casey says, IT pros are all-too-anxious to switch companies, even careers. And given the market uncertainly, they're advising their kids to steer clear of the profession--at least according to many disillusioned readers who responded to my last column. Feedback cycle. As more citizens leave IT and other tech fields, more will be off shored, which will lead to more leaving the tech field.
We were an agricultural economy, became a manufacturing economy, and are now leaving the service economy. What is next?
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:50:27 PM PST
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: dakine
Mine too. From FORTRAN to Nova assembler, on the job no less.
I even see jobs from time to time that only require C, though my development platforms these days are Word and Powerpoint. *\:-(
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:52:52 PM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: dakine
"My COBOL/FORTRAN/Burroughs' skills aren't good enough...."
How about EZTRIEVE, big market for that!
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posted on
03/08/2007 12:58:25 PM PST
by
duckman
(I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
To: SirLinksalot; A. Pole
Meantime, if you can't find the right job but insist you have all the right skills and are doing all the right things (a common refrain among readers), "take a good look at the jobs you're pursuing and the competencies that you have," Casey says. "You need to consider re-inventing yourself"--yes, new skills, new locations, new industries. Employees must step up as well.Sounds like Greenspan-speak.
"All the world's a virtual stage...
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."
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posted on
03/08/2007 1:08:42 PM PST
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
To: SirLinksalot
Many of their employers hail from the "you should be happy you have a job" school of management. Well, that's CEO-think. Many of us hiring managers would love to hire US talent - regardless of cost - but the big bosses won't let us. Part of it is that few companies really understand the potential positive impact of IT on their businesses - in many industries it remains a cost to be ruthlessly controlled, like the electric bill. ;)
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posted on
03/08/2007 1:13:19 PM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: SirLinksalot
Businesses have bought this on themselves. What is the point in learning IT skills in college when employers keep sending those jobs overseas.
Those same employers then decry the lack of skilled college graduates. What student is going to spend 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars on an education to get a job that gets out-sourced to India?
To: SirLinksalot
Here is a quote from a book titled
Die Broke:
The answer is quit today: mentally separate yourself from your employer and realize that youre on your own. Abandon any remaining tinges of loyalty to your employer (who long ago abandoned any sense of obligation to you) and instead think of your job and yourself the same way free-agent athletes do. (Pollan & Levine 1997, 11)
Yes, there are unique drivers when it comes to the IT world but this is the underlying attitude.
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posted on
03/08/2007 1:28:48 PM PST
by
AreaMan
To: GOP_1900AD
You raise a good point, but I don't believe the deflationary factors you described have as much influence as you think. I belong to an advisory group for an engineering school, and just last week I had a long conversation with someone whose company can't even fill positions that pay $40k-$50k starting salaries to people with two-year degrees in tech-related fields.
My biggest problem in my company is that I have a hard time finding people who are flexible and broadly educated -- not just "trained" to do tasks that may be obsolete next month.
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posted on
03/08/2007 1:44:19 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
To: SirLinksalot
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posted on
03/08/2007 2:07:29 PM PST
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
To: SirLinksalot
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posted on
03/08/2007 2:20:36 PM PST
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Make the Philippines a state or states
How is this going to solve the IT shortage problem ?
1) Do Filipinos want to be an American State ?
2) Assuming the answer is yes ( which I highly doubt ), you'll have a state that supplies cheap labor... is that the intent ?
3) At any rate, if it's cheap Philippines IT labor you want, you don't need to go to the extent of reclaiming them. Outsourcing your work could do the job as well.
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