Posted on 03/09/2007 1:02:19 PM PST by radar101
I believe the phrase you were looking for is, "Ya gotta dance with the dog that bit you."
Interesting that Obey has discovered "reverse triangulation." He's managed to triangulate himself.
That doesn't mean anything - didn't Rangel sponsor a bill HE voted against?
Oh my goodness. Welcome to your base sir, too bad for you they bite.
I was hoping someone would post a transcript of this stealth move by Obey and QueenP.
Thank you so much for doing so. I wouldn't have seen this at all if you hadn't posted it.
This career Congresscritter scumbag represents North-Central WI, which should be a conservative area. Unfortunately, voters keep re-electing him because of his power and pork. He's your typical Rat politician.
He's your typical Old Hippie. How's that? LOL! Here's some pontificating by CongressCritter Obey on the House Floor:
Mr. Speaker, Four years ago, this Congress voted to authorize the President to engage in a preemptive attack on Iraq, a country that had not attacked the United States. I supported military action against Afghanistan because they gave sanctuary to Osama bin Laden and those who attacked us on 9/11. But I opposed the President's unilateral and preemptive attack on Iraq, because I believed that action would destabilize the Middle East, isolate us in world opinion, and weaken our influence in the world.
Our opposition was vilified, our patriotism was questioned, and that continues today. Were told that if we oppose the President's intensification of the war, we are giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Well, I for one am tired of those who have been consistently wrong about this war lecturing those of us who have been right from the start. Im tired of the manipulation of intelligence by this Administration. Im tired of the stubbornness of an administration that didn't have a clue about the Middle East realities when they got us into this mess, and don't have a clue now about how to get us out.
Sadly, there will be no happy endings to this war. The Presidents policy has done so much damage that there is no good way for us to get out whether it happens in six months, or a year, or five years.
Our troops won the war, God bless them, but the problem with the President's plan is that it calls upon our troops to do something they do not have the power to do, and that is to convince the Iraqi factions to stop killing each other and work together on a political compromise.
Instead of the President's surge, in my view, we should set a rough target for repositioning our troops out of the area. We should recognize that Sunni, Shiites and Kurds will never join together in a strong central government. We should tell the Iraqis that if they do not amend their constitution to allow for a loose confederation - with an oil-sharing agreement between the Sunnis and the Shiites - then we will leave them to each others tender mercies. We should participate in regional discussions with all parties including Syria and Iran. We should resume aggressive leadership to resurrect a meaningful Middle East peace process. And Congress should pass legislation prohibiting an attack on Iran without authorization by this Congress.
Given the chaos that the Administration's policies have produced, none of these suggestions may work, but all of them would be better than continuing to be stuck in another five-year period in an endless war with endless promises to the American people and with endless failures on the ground.
http://obey.house.gov/hor/wi07/
Thank you so much for doing so. I wouldn't have seen this at all if you hadn't posted it.
NO PROBLEM!
Something like "Laying down with Pigs"?
Obey's frustration with the radical left is plain. The radicals want America out of the war, perferably with the maximum amount of humiliation to our good name, and choas and pain in Iraq. We all deserve it, you see. Obey wants to acomlish our exit but without the pain and humiliation. Therefore the radical left is not satisfied.
Thanks very much. Bump.
"triangulate himself" -- that sounds painful.....
Wait, isn't it "you have to dance with the one who brung you"?
And "if you lay down with the dogs, you are going to get fleas"?
And possibly: "If you play with a snake, sooner or later you are going to bet bit"?
Oh well. It's a terrible thing to waste one's mind.
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