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Duncan Hunter, RRRINO: Reincarnated Reagan Republican In Name Only
SignsonSanDiego.com ^ | 3/9/07 | Chris Reed

Posted on 03/09/2007 6:44:43 PM PST by LdSentinal

Periodically, I get e-mails from supporters of the presidential candidacy of Alpine Rep. Duncan Hunter who express disbelief, befuddlement or fury, or a mix of all three, at my flat contention that he is a populist demagogue and anything but a principled conservative. These folks cannot fathom any talk that he's not free-trade, small-government Ronald Reagan reincarnated.

Here's a typical example of Hunterista reaction to my comment that he's been against trade deals that have been important boons to our economy:

You're supposed to be a columnist, an informed person. This is not an informed statement.

OK. If you don't believe me about Duncan Hunter's RRRINOitis, here's what the influential, admired-and-respected-in-conservative-circles Club for Growth has to say about him:

Like most Republicans, he's strong on tax cuts, but he's been part of the big government spending spree of the last 6 years. He also has a protectionist streak in him. Here are some of the more troubling votes:

NO on NAFTA YES on No Child Left Behind YES on Sarbanes-Oxley YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit NO on CAFTA YES on 2005 Highway Bill YES on the 527 bill (like most Republicans, he flip-flopped, having first voted NO on McCain-Feingold) Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.

Despite being a member of the Republican Study Committee, Hunter frequently votes NO on their fiscally conservative annual budgets (2006, 2005, 2003...)

We gave him a 49% on the 2005 Club for Growth scorecard. That places him 187th within the House GOP conference, out of roughly 230 members.

National Taxpayers Union shows a more telling trend. He was strong in the early 1990s, getting "B's" and one "A", but as time went by, like most politicians, his score dropped. For the past few years, he's been getting "C's".

Those Cs are incredibly generous. As CATO noted last year, with Duncan Hunter cheering him on ...

... President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn't cut enough spending to change his place in history, either.

Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush's first term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5 percent of GDP on Clinton's last day in office to 20.3 percent by the end of Bush's first term.

The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.

The GOP was once effective at controlling nondefense spending. The final nondefense budgets under Clinton were a combined $57 billion smaller than what he proposed from 1996 to 2001. Under Bush, Congress passed budgets that spent a total of $91 billion more than the president requested for domestic programs.

And as bad as things are on the budget front, they're about to get a whole lot worse because of a pending nightmare that Duncan Hunter -- supposed tough guy, supposed truth-teller, supposed fiscal conservative -- has chosen to ignore. To borrow from what I wrote last year ...

... the single worst problem facing this country in coming years, with the possible exception of nuclear terrorism, is dealing with the massive fiscal impact of baby boomers retiring. As we slowly transition from a nation where there are 4 working adults for every adult getting Social Security and Medicare to a nation where that ratio is 2 to 1, we will face an incredible fiscal squeeze.

As a veteran member of Congress, Duncan Hunter knows this. He's heard the warnings, seen the bipartisan studies. So what did this self-declared fiscal conservative do in 2003? He voted to make the problem much, much, much worse by extending prescription drug benefits to seniors, three-quarters of whom already have coverage. The money that was saved by all the triumphant stands he claims to have taken is infinitesimal compared to the staggering long-term national debt he helped add with this one vote, which was tantamount to civic arson.

Yeah, right, our Duncan's a fiscal conservative. ... He loves spending your grandkids' money, and by the truckload.

Duncan Hunter is no Ronald Reagan. To those who say Ronald Reagan really wasn't Ronald Reagan -- that government didn't get smaller when he was president -- well, he tried harder than any president in modern times to get Congress to control spending and wipe out whole government agencies. By contrast, Hunter and the GOP Congress of 2001-2006 kept the national credit cards hanging on a string around their necks for easy and constant use.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008; catsouttadabag; duncan; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; hunter; notreagan; primary; rrrino; rudybot; thrillisgone
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To: Nephi

"I had heard that Hunter was a "protectionist" which picqued my interest, but this voting record pretty much negates any "America First" qualities."

Exactly, he's a DC insider like the rest of them. We need a governor/mayor ;) with an outsider perspective. BTW, love the sig.


151 posted on 03/09/2007 8:32:45 PM PST by chet_in_ny
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To: LiberalBassTurds; All
Duncan Hunter...strong on defense.

He should be, during the 2000 Election cycle he accepted $191,473 in donations from defense industries.

152 posted on 03/09/2007 8:32:48 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: chet_in_ny

153 posted on 03/09/2007 8:35:49 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: SoCalPol
"You can google and find sites that say the earth is flat and we never went to the moon...Grow up"

Yes, that would also explain his receiving $191,473 in donations from defense industries in the 2000 election cycle. It will be interesting to compare the list of donors/donations with his record on the committee.

154 posted on 03/09/2007 8:35:57 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: ForOurFuture
So you contend that our anti-terrorism strategy should consist of plopping down hundreds of thousands of troops in the middle of the Islamic "bee hive" and keeping them there indefinitely, so as to distract the terrorists and keep them busy killing our soldiers instead of our civilians. How many decades and how many lives do you think it might take before this brilliant strategy exhausts the global supply of Islamic radicals? How long might it be before the terrorists get smart, grow weary of killing our soldiers in their backyard, and return to killing civilians in America? How long might it be before this strategy ends up with us having bitten off more than we can chew?

In a word, yes. If a young jihadi in, say, Saudi Arabia or Iran wants to go fight the Great Satan today, where does he go? Well, clearly, he goes to Iraq, because the media is telling him that the US is losing to his buddies. He thinks he can go to Iraq and kill the soldiers of the Great Satan. In reality, our soldiers are mostly killing the terrorists, not the other way around. The basic answer to your question is, yes, this is a smart strategy. We attract terrorists from around the world to Iraq precisely because they *think* they can hurt us there. The truth is, they mostly end up getting killed. If we don't provide that battleground then the terrorists come over here, and *we* mostly end up getting killed. On September 11, a mere 19 terrorists killed around 3,000 Americans. In Iraq, any given 3,000 terrorists are probably lucky to kill 19 Americans. I like those numbers quite a bit better, although any American deaths are regrettable. So yes, I'd much prefer that the young jihadi go up against our soldiers rather than spend his time looking for our women and children at home and around the world.

Is it perfect? Definitely not. Is it better than your strategy of hiding in a hole and hoping the terrorist world forgets about us? Yep.

155 posted on 03/09/2007 8:36:27 PM PST by xjcsa (Hillary Clinton, trying to become America's first black lesbian president. -Jan Mickelson)
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To: CWOJackson
..are you indicating some illegal activity?

What is your point here?

156 posted on 03/09/2007 8:36:31 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Kevmo
I gave up on HTML years ago when we lost so many italians.

LMAO Kevmo. What the heck does that mean? :)

LBT
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157 posted on 03/09/2007 8:36:50 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: WalterSkinner

Of course not...it was only his buddy Cunningham who was convicted.


158 posted on 03/09/2007 8:37:54 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Elyse

Great post, and we thank you!!


159 posted on 03/09/2007 8:38:37 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Top right on his site where it says contact us.
It gives you several options how to contact him


160 posted on 03/09/2007 8:38:46 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: nopardons

I imagine a whole lot of Congressmen would become strong on defense to the tune of $191,473. A small price for the contractors to pay for big contracts.


161 posted on 03/09/2007 8:39:37 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: LdSentinal

One word for you, mate:

"Youarefullofcrap"

Respectfully, /s/ An Independent who would walk on hot coals for Duncan Hunter


162 posted on 03/09/2007 8:39:52 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: CWOJackson

You have been posting this same crap for weeks. Get some new lies.


163 posted on 03/09/2007 8:40:47 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: little jeremiah

heeeeeeeey LJ!

Nice to see you here my friend! Nice to see you on this thread as well! And I quite agree.


164 posted on 03/09/2007 8:41:07 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: LdSentinal

Forgot to ping you on #157. That's one funny response you got there. :-)

LBT
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165 posted on 03/09/2007 8:41:35 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: CWOJackson
..Randy Cunningham got what he deserved--he is a disgrace

But your insinuations that Duncan Hunter is bought and paid for by the Defense Industry is really a cheap shot.

166 posted on 03/09/2007 8:41:54 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: BunnySlippers

All my relatives in the military are voting for Hunter. those type of pics don't sway them


167 posted on 03/09/2007 8:41:57 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: CWOJackson

Thanks, I'll check that out.

LBT
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168 posted on 03/09/2007 8:42:08 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: LdSentinal

And who are you a shill for, dear?


169 posted on 03/09/2007 8:42:30 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: LdSentinal

Thank you for posting this.

The 'flip side' is what we need in order to learn and make informed choices.


170 posted on 03/09/2007 8:42:57 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: CWOJackson

That YES on Sarbanes-Oxley is a killer. That is one of the all time WORST bills ever passed!


171 posted on 03/09/2007 8:42:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SoCalPol

Mitt? MITT? He's the most dynamic of all of the candidates -- first, second or third tier.


172 posted on 03/09/2007 8:43:40 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: SoCalPol
"You have been posting this same crap for weeks. Get some new lies."

Alright...I'll wait right here for you to link "this same crap" I've been posting for weeks...since is the very first time I've posting about Hunter.

173 posted on 03/09/2007 8:44:29 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson; All

So let me get this straight, a newspaper shows his voting record far from being a "True Conservative" yet some people still call him a "True Conservative"... This is truly bizzare....


174 posted on 03/09/2007 8:44:39 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: SoCalPol
At this time in the primary, only four candidates are being talked about in the national media: Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Gingrich - with the caveat that Gingrich hasn't and probably won't announce. And recently Fred Thompson has been rumored to be interested in a run.

At some point, a realistic reassessment of a candidates chances of success becomes way overdue.
175 posted on 03/09/2007 8:44:50 PM PST by aligncare (No, the science is NOT settled.)
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To: nopardons

Howdy :-)

LBT
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176 posted on 03/09/2007 8:45:23 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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To: CWOJackson

He has always been strong on defense starting with his father being a Marine and duncan being in the Viet nam war and his son 2 tours in Iraq.
His record has always been strong, not bought.

Not like draft dodger Rudy and Mitt and his 5 sons who never served.


177 posted on 03/09/2007 8:45:49 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: WalterSkinner
"But your insinuations that Duncan Hunter is bought and paid for by the Defense Industry is really a cheap shot."

I'm sure his long association with his friend Randy Cummingham, the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's accepted from defense industries and his record on military contracts is just a coincidence.

178 posted on 03/09/2007 8:46:03 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: conservatrice

I see it the same way. The absolutists think that Fiscal Conservatism trumps all, but we learned the hard way that libs can paint you into a corner when you say you're for family values but won't vote for things like the Family Leave Act. At the very least, republicans should be putting up better alternatives that have more fiscal soundness, but instead the public hears silence and criticizing rather than an equivocal alternative. Having a healthy economy is very important, and free trade has a much better way of building it, but if the benefits won't happen for 10 or more years out, the electorate will vote you out of office before you can see the benefit. So we need free trade policies that work fast. The "rational middle ground" is fair trade.

This article has been around for a long time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/705954/posts
Multinational companies aren't interested in helping americans build jobs here, they take advantage of loopholes like H1B visas in order to drive wages down. I see it here pretty often in silicon valley.


179 posted on 03/09/2007 8:46:16 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: SoCalPol
Not like draft dodger Rudy and Mitt and his 5 sons who never served.

Do George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan count as draft dodgers as well?

And did you know John McCain was in the military?

180 posted on 03/09/2007 8:47:10 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: SoCalPol

Of course he wasn't bought...the hundreds of thousands of dollars were...ah...they were just simply...ah...


181 posted on 03/09/2007 8:47:19 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: LdSentinal

BRAVO !!! Finally someone debunking the nonsense that Duncan Hunter is God's gift to politics. He's just another congressional porker masquerading as a Reagan conservative. If his protectionist polilies became law it would wreck the economy. Remember Herbert Hoover. He's a lousy dresser too.


182 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:00 PM PST by rodomila
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To: SoCalPol; All

Do you have proof that Mitt dodged the draft???


183 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:09 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: conservatrice
The Sarbanes-Oxely Bill has done a great deal of HARM to American businesses, as well as to American exchanges. For all of his claims about being "for" Americans and American business, this and his largess to his pals ( they had to OUTSOURCE a the critical parts......to a company in INDIA! ), re government contracts makes him a hypocrite of the worst order.
184 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CWOJackson

..I will be looking forward to your presentation of any actual evidence of wrongdoing...


185 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:31 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: All

Click below for Duncan Hunter's voting record, and while everyone might not agree with him 100%, please show a candidate who is better, and THEIR voting record, and WHY it is better:

http://www.issues2002.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm

excerpts are:

Duncan Hunter on Abortion

Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)


Duncan Hunter on Gun Control

Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse. (Apr 2003)
Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999)
Rated A+ by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record. (Dec 2003)

Duncan Hunter on Foreign Policy

Voted YES on deterring foreign arms transfers to China. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)
Voted NO on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001)
Voted NO on $156M to IMF for 3rd-world debt reduction. (Jul 2000)
Voted NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)
Voted NO on $15.2 billion for foreign operations. (Nov 1999)


186 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:34 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: AmishDude

Dynamic, like a snake oil salesman.
Like these two bit preachers on TV that sell prayer cloths and swamp land


187 posted on 03/09/2007 8:48:59 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: WalterSkinner

I already said, he wasn't convicted along with his long time friend Randy Cunningham...it's all just a coincidence.


188 posted on 03/09/2007 8:49:35 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Vicomte13

Yes, Enron is the excuse used for SOX, but not only would SOX not have stopped the Enron mess, it makes things dreadful for American businesses of all sizes. You need to find out more about it.


189 posted on 03/09/2007 8:50:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Rep. Duncan Hunter's official Presidential website doesn't have a way to contact his Presidential campaign by e-mail, and his Congressional website e-mail address only involves his constituents from his California Congressional District.
***Bookmark for a ...uh... developing item.


190 posted on 03/09/2007 8:50:59 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: LdSentinal

Reagan was in the Army, faked his way in due to his poor eyesight
At least Bush flew jets

Rudy nor Mitt served at all period


191 posted on 03/09/2007 8:52:49 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: LiberalBassTurds

Oh, you'll have to go through the Freeper Lexicon & history threads to dig up the "lost italians" episodes. It'll be fun reading.

Here's a place to start

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689962/posts


192 posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:24 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: SoCalPol; All

So???? Being in the military is not a requirement....


193 posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:50 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: SoCalPol
And John McCain was also a Vietnam Vet. So was Hagel.

Should conservatives support McCain and Hagel?

194 posted on 03/09/2007 8:54:05 PM PST by LdSentinal
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2006 wasn't a good year for Hunter. He slipped behind Murtha in receiving the most contributions from the defense industry...he only got $118,350. Still, number two isn't shabby at that price.


195 posted on 03/09/2007 8:54:07 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: KevinDavis

Not like draft dodger Rudy and Mitt and his 5 sons who never served.



Read again, one a draft dodger and one and his 5 sons who never served


196 posted on 03/09/2007 8:55:17 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: LdSentinal; All

Wasn't Kerry in Vietnam?????


197 posted on 03/09/2007 8:55:18 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

his position on trade seems to be mostly against those who have hostile intentions towards us
***Hmmm, that is a good way of putting it.


198 posted on 03/09/2007 8:55:29 PM PST by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: SoCalPol; All

Again DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT MITT DODGED THE DRAFT......


199 posted on 03/09/2007 8:56:02 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks Kevmo, I'll check that out. You had me cracking up. :-)

LBT
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200 posted on 03/09/2007 8:56:13 PM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Peace is the short interlude between wars.)
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