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Why cavemen liked curvy cavewomen...like Kylie
Daily Express ^ | March, 7, 2007 | Martin Evans

Posted on 03/10/2007 12:55:45 PM PST by madison10

Why cavemen liked curvy cavewomen...like Kylie 09/03/07 By Martin Evans

THERE are a few exceptions which will always stand out, but most female stars yearn for a diminutive derriere.

However, it appears that the small and slender bottom is very much a recent trend after an archaeological discovery revealed how Stone Age pin-ups were far from size zero.

Ancient carvings depicting the female form 15,000 years ago reveal that prehistoric women were revered for their curvaceous bodies and prominent buttocks.

The most popular were the cave-dwellers’ equivalents of Kylie Minogue (pictured), whose renowned behind is the world’s most popular posterior.

Historians claim that the carvings – found at a site in Poland – reveal how curvy bottoms were regarded as the most attractive physical trait for women in Stone Age Europe.

Men looking for a mate ignored skinnier women and fought for females with the shapeliest behinds.

Experts said a well-presented bottom was a sign of wealth, health and a good diet....

(Excerpt) Read more at express.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ancient; archeology; babygotback; bigbootybest; cavemen; godsgravesglyphs; roastduckmangosalsa
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Explains why MY family is still here. :P
1 posted on 03/10/2007 12:55:48 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

so is there a big booty ping list?


2 posted on 03/10/2007 12:57:39 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: Kimmers
So is there a big booty ping list?

LOL It should probably go with the Gods and Glyphs list, but I don't know how to get it.

3 posted on 03/10/2007 1:02:29 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10
I wonder what he thinks:


4 posted on 03/10/2007 1:02:53 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: madison10

Cromagnum got back.


5 posted on 03/10/2007 1:03:25 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: madison10

giggle


6 posted on 03/10/2007 1:03:30 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: madison10
De clunibus magnis amandis oratio
Mixaloti equitis

mehercle!
(By Hercules!)
Rebecca, ecce! tantae clunes isti sunt!
(Rebecca, behold! Such large buttocks she has!)

amica esse videtur istorum hominum rhythmicorum.
(She appears to be a girlfriend of one of those rhythmic-oration people.)
sed, ut scis,
(But, as you know)
quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?
(Who can understand persons of this sort?)
colloquuntur equidem cum ista eo tantum, quod scortum perfectum esse videtur.
(Verily, they converse with her for this reason only, namely, that she appears to be a complete whore.)
clunes, aio, maiores esse!
(Her buttocks, I say, are rather large!)
nec possum credere quam rotondae sint.
(Nor am I able to believe how round they are.)
en! quam exstant! nonne piget te earum?
(Lo! How they stand forth! Do they not disgust you?)
ecce mulier Aethiops!
(Behold the black woman!)

magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.
(Large buttocks are pleasing to me, nor am I able to lie concerning this matter.)
quis enim, consortes mei, non fateatur,
(For who, colleagues, would not admit,)
cum puella incedit minore medio corpore
(Whenever a girl comes by with a rather small middle part of the body)
sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos
(Beneath which is an obvious spherical mass, that it inflames the spirits)
virtute praestare ut velitis, notantes bracas eius
(So that you want to be conspicuous for manly virtue, noticing her breeches)
clunibus profunde fartas(*1) esse
(Have been deeply stuffed with buttock?)
a! captus sum, nec desinere intueri possum.
(Alas! I am captured, nor am I able to desist from gazing.)
o dominola mea, volo tecum congredi
(My dear lady, I want to come together with you)
pingereque picturam tui.
(And make a picture of you.)
familiares mei me monebant
(My companions were trying to warn me)
sed clunes istae libidinem in me concitant.
(But those buttocks of yours arouse lust in me.)
o! cutis rugosa glabraque! (*2)
(O skin wrinkled and smooth!)
dixistine te in meum vehiculum intrare velle?
(Did you say you wish to enter my vehicle?)
in arbitrio tuo totus veni
(I am entirely at your disposal)
quia non es mediocris adsecula.
(Because you are not an average hanger-on.)
vidi illam saltantem.(*3)
(I have seen her dancing.)
obliviscere igitur blanditiarum! (*3a)
(Forget, therefore, about blandishments!)
tantus sudor! tantus umor!
(Such sweat! Such moisture!)
vehor quasi in curru quadrigarum! (*4)
(I am borne along as if by a four-horse chariot!)
taedet me in diurnis legendi
(I am tired of reading in the gazettes)
planas clunes gratiores iudicari.
(That flat buttocks are judged more pleasing.)
rogate quoslibet Aethiopes: responsum erit
(Ask any black men you wish: the answer will be)
se libentius expletiores (*5) anteponere.
(Rather that they prefer fuller ones.)
o consortes (quid est?) o consortes (quid est?)
(O colleagues [What is it?] O colleagues [What is it?])
habent amicae vestrae magnas clunes? (certe habent!)
(Do your girlfriends have large buttocks? [They certainly have!])
hortamini igitur ut eas quatiant (ut quatiant!)
(Encourage them therefore to shake them! [To shake them!]) ut quatiant! (ut quatiant!)
(To shake them! [To shake them!)
ut quatiant illas clunes sanas!
(To shake those healthy buttocks!)
domina mea exstat a tergo! (*6)
(My mistress stands out behind!)

[Etc.]

_______ (*1) Any apparent connection with flatulence, even in this context, is purely coincidental.
(*2) The original doesn't make much sense either. Is it a cellulite reference? -- ADDENDUM Nov. 14, 2003: The reading of the text here is a problem which has much exercised the scholarly community, with attempts to explain "rumpled smooth skin," or to suggest that it is a pun (a lame one, if you ask me) on Rumplestiltskin. The likeliest reading is "rub her smooth skin" (cutem glabram eius tere [or terere volo]). Now, there are ten pages of comments below, and a great many of them are devoted to this matter. Please familiarize yourself with the status quaestionis before making your own contribution. -- UPDATE 12/9/03: a reader tells us that Sir Mixalot's official site confirms the lyrics "rub all of that smooth skin." I am therefore willing to declare the matter solved, and wish to hear no more of it. Thank you.
(*3) Or saltare?
(*3a) I can find no obvious Latin expression that implies "romantic courtship." -- ADDENDUM 10/14/03: Amores has been suggested, but that can also be used for purely sexual liaisons, which is clearly the goal here, and so not to be thus dismissed.
(*4)All right, how would you say "got it goin' like a Turbo 'Vette"? And what exactly is "goin'" here? I have chosen to understand that the unnamed woman's extraordinary callipygy has inspired a primal response in the narrator, rather than that she "has got it goin' on," i.e., that she "is all that" -- although the later lines (not included here) concerning Fonda's Honda and the speaker's anaconda can, ultimately, be invoked in support of either interpretation. -- ADDENDUM 10/24/03: I have heard from several readers that the music video suggests that this line should rather be interpreted along the lines of "she shakes her posterior most vigorously."
(*5) Or uberiores? Although that's perhaps better reserved for a different fetish.
(*6) This line is not as succinct as the original, to be sure. -- ADDENDUM 10/24/03: I wish I'd said puella here, as domina suggests a power relationship different from the English original.

UPDATE, later that same day: Thanks to Nepenthe for pointing out that the lyrics link I had up here (to letssingit.com, which avoid) led to multiple pop-ups that install software without informing you. I've found one that seems to be pop-up free: but then my browser didn't respond to the other ones, either.

(This means, of course, that I translated a different transcription of the lyrics, and it might not match. Yeah, that's a good explanation.)

7 posted on 03/10/2007 1:04:57 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: dinoparty

See post 7


8 posted on 03/10/2007 1:05:27 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: madison10; pissant; DaveLoneRanger; Liz; EternalVigilance

Consider: Apparently Adam considered Eve a total babe.

Consider: Democratic women.

Reverse Evolution? Discuss among yourselves, no fair referring to the Laws of Thermodynamics, this is about art.



9 posted on 03/10/2007 1:06:06 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: madison10

I dont know Kylie. i thought J-Lo had the worlds roundest butt.


10 posted on 03/10/2007 1:06:59 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: madison10
I can't imagine why....


11 posted on 03/10/2007 1:07:57 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: atomicpossum; madison10
"It is thought the discovery is in an area where hunters gathered to relax and swap stories."

Porn.

It was a porn shop.

12 posted on 03/10/2007 1:09:24 PM PST by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: madison10

I know what you mean.


13 posted on 03/10/2007 1:09:36 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: madison10
of Kylie Minogue (pictured), whose renowned behind is the world’s most popular posterior.

Never heard of her.

14 posted on 03/10/2007 1:09:58 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Be silent, friend. Here heroes died to blaze a trail for other men.)
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To: madison10

The GEICO cavemans apartment:
http://www.cavemanscrib.com/


15 posted on 03/10/2007 1:11:11 PM PST by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: madison10

Wider hips may be an advantage with childbirth.


16 posted on 03/10/2007 1:13:37 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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To: madison10

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1798568/posts


17 posted on 03/10/2007 1:15:12 PM PST by devane617 (Let's take back our country -- get a job in the MSM, or education system. We need you.)
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To: madison10
"Why cavemen liked curvy cavewomen" ?

Because they are so "easy" even a cave man can do them.
18 posted on 03/10/2007 1:16:34 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Professional Engineer
"Never heard of her."

Oh, Man! She wins that title going away.

19 posted on 03/10/2007 1:17:12 PM PST by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: madison10; SunkenCiv
Am I overreaching or do I detect a note of bitterness between the lines there? ;^P

I added 'godsgravesglyphs' to the keywords and I'll ping SunkenCIV who I believe is the overlord of the GGG pinglist.

20 posted on 03/10/2007 1:17:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Fat bottom girls make the rockin' world go 'round.)
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To: madison10
I learned this basic truth when it was explained to me why "Rubenesque" women were a representation of the ideal in the middle ages.  Peter Paul Rubens was painting full figured women because it was the current vision of beauty and, like this article, that was based on the type being indicative of "wealth, health and a good diet."  Remember these folks in his time, the 1600s, still had relatively recent memories of the Plague and would still encounter that kind of illness in their normal world.

Fat bottomed girls don't have plague.

For a long time I've been expecting the reemergence of the Rubenesque full figured woman as the ideal as a reaction to the twin horrors of drug abuse and aids.  I think this was a large part of Anna Nicole Smith's original appeal.  Of course, we see how well that has worked out.

I've read analysis that says the reason being a "redneck" was a negative trait, meaning people with a tan or even a sunburn from exposure to the sun, was because that meant those people were manual laborers, while pale skin indicated people who were wealthy enough not to do manual labor.  Now the anorexic (though tanned) look is held up as the ideal for much the same reason, as only wealthy people are presumed to have the funds to go to a gym and work out or lie on the beach at St. Tropez (or in a tanning salon).

21 posted on 03/10/2007 1:20:11 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: madison10; AnAmericanMother

Makes sense to me. A woman with a bit more meat on her bones likely was perceived to be better able to bear children, and survive to raise them, than her skinny sister cavedweller.


22 posted on 03/10/2007 1:22:08 PM PST by SuziQ
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sophia loren was (is) the ultimate benchmark woman with curves

Her figure would never be popular in today's world of anorexic females with plastic body parts.

23 posted on 03/10/2007 1:22:39 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, dammit! There are sober people in Africa!)
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To: llevrok
My favorite quote from Ms. Loren:

"All you see, I owe to spaghetti."

24 posted on 03/10/2007 1:24:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: madison10

ugly feminists trying to revise history so as to render themselves more "date-able".


25 posted on 03/10/2007 1:25:32 PM PST by gaijin
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Adam considered Eve a total babe compared with whom?


26 posted on 03/10/2007 1:26:43 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: madison10

I think this got posted - then pulled.


27 posted on 03/10/2007 1:27:28 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Elsiejay

I get the idea she was a 10.

In a field of 1.


28 posted on 03/10/2007 1:29:48 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

BOOKbump


29 posted on 03/10/2007 1:33:07 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (What did I do with my tagline..........?)
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To: xcamel
I think this got posted - then pulled.

Why pulled? someone take it too far afield? I originally found the article at FOX news, maybe someone posted the whole article and not the excerpt.

30 posted on 03/10/2007 1:35:50 PM PST by madison10
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To: llevrok
Her figure would never be popular in today's world of anorexic females with plastic body parts.

I can see the headline on The Star now:

Sophia's Spaghettti Horror!
Studio execs frantic as buxom bombshell loses battle of the bulge!

;)

31 posted on 03/10/2007 1:36:00 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: TigersEye

Bitterness? I just plain don't know how to ping it and at the time I posted I forgot what the ping list was called. ;) Senior moment thing.

I couldn't add any more words either.


32 posted on 03/10/2007 1:37:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: llevrok
sophia loren Raquel Welsh was (is) the ultimate benchmark woman with curves Her figure would never be popular in today's world of anorexic females with plastic body parts.

On top of that, Raquel really does support the troops!! Not a chance for her to make it in today's hollywierd! Look at her U.S.O. works, and interview with Neil Cavuto.
33 posted on 03/10/2007 1:43:43 PM PST by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: madison10

Just out of curiosity, who is Kylie Minogue? What is she "known" for??


34 posted on 03/10/2007 1:49:23 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: AnAmericanMother

Ok ladies, eat more spaghetti.


35 posted on 03/10/2007 1:50:08 PM PST by reg45
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To: AnAmericanMother
I don't know how I missed this the first time, but that translation is... il più eccellente

Do you do requests?

36 posted on 03/10/2007 1:50:21 PM PST by infidel29 (Gun Control: Taking firearms out of the hands of those who DO know right from wrong.)
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To: Chi-townChief

She's a singer from Australia.

http://www.kylie.com/


37 posted on 03/10/2007 1:50:40 PM PST by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: voltaires_zit

Thanks - a little heavy on the makeup, looks like she applies it with a shovel.


38 posted on 03/10/2007 1:55:54 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: madison10

I didn't mean bitterness about pinging the GGG list. It was in reference to the "MY family" remark. LOL (ducking)


39 posted on 03/10/2007 2:12:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Fat bottom girls make the rockin' world go 'round.)
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To: llevrok

Sophia Loren, Marilyn Monroe, Brigitte Bardot, Claudia Cardinale, Ursula Andress... the golden age of luscious, curvy screen sirens!


40 posted on 03/10/2007 2:16:58 PM PST by karnage
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To: madison10

"They depict the profile of women minus their heads – strongly suggesting that cavemen were more interested in the shape of the body than the way a female looked"




Some things just never change.


41 posted on 03/10/2007 2:26:14 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: Professional Engineer
This is Kiley Minogue's mouth. I sincerely enjoy this end better, regardless of what these poofs at this UK pubication may state.


42 posted on 03/10/2007 2:29:31 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Chi-townChief
She's known for Locomotion.
43 posted on 03/10/2007 2:31:51 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Chi-townChief
Kylie Minogue's relevant body part is pictured in the linked article.
44 posted on 03/10/2007 2:38:42 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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To: madison10
It should probably go with the Gods and Glyphs list

Or maybe the Gods, Glyphs and Glutes list.

45 posted on 03/10/2007 2:38:47 PM PST by Socratic (A family is more than a matter of genetics.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I was in England then. It was forever ago.


46 posted on 03/10/2007 2:45:42 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: madison10

nope... right here...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1798568/posts
just the title was waaaay different..


47 posted on 03/10/2007 2:47:20 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Kimmers

Guess cavemen would enjoy American Idol, Rosie O still has a chance. OOPS I forgot


48 posted on 03/10/2007 2:48:53 PM PST by ronnie raygun (ID RATHER BE HUNTING WITH DICK THAN DRIVING WITH TED)
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To: madison10
Kylie Minogue, for reference purposes:


49 posted on 03/10/2007 2:53:51 PM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: madison10

50 posted on 03/10/2007 2:54:34 PM PST by UnklGene
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