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NH: Bill To Require Fees For Kayaks and Canoes Introduced
NH Govt Website ^

Posted on 03/12/2007 8:29:19 AM PDT by Aglooka

SENATE BILL 255-FN-A "requiring non-motorized vessels to display conservation decals issued by the fish and game department."

SPONSORS: Sen. Barnes, Dist 17; Sen. Gallus, Dist 1; Sen. D'Allesandro, Dist 20

NH Senate Wildlife, Fish and Game Committee: Next/Last Hearing: WILDLIFE, FISH AND GAME     3/14/2007 1:00:00 PM     LOB 103

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/ns/billstatus/commdetails.asp?txtcommcode=S35

Text of the bill: http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2007/SB0255.html

Bill Sponsors: Barnes (Republican) Gallus (Republican) D'Allesandro (Democrat)

Contact information for representatives. NH State House:http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/house/default.html

NH State Senate:http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/


TOPICS: Government; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: canoe; kayak; newhampshire; nh

1 posted on 03/12/2007 8:29:24 AM PDT by Aglooka
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To: Aglooka

Are Floaties and Noodles next?


2 posted on 03/12/2007 8:30:17 AM PDT by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: Aglooka
The 'rats are in control in NH.
Can the Income and Sales Tax be far behind?
3 posted on 03/12/2007 8:31:04 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Aglooka

TAX, TAX, TAX -- it never stops.


4 posted on 03/12/2007 8:32:09 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Aglooka

This is the law in Illinois and Wisconsin. I don't know what the charges are in Wisconsin, but in Illinois it costs me $12 for a 2-year sticker.


5 posted on 03/12/2007 8:33:39 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Aglooka

Read my lips! No new taxes! :)


6 posted on 03/12/2007 8:34:35 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Aglooka

They'll probably do the same thing to tooth brushes next. Believe me, there will be a price to get that sticker.


7 posted on 03/12/2007 8:35:31 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Aglooka

New Hampshire: Slogan- Live Free Or Die???


We are seeing the growth of what happens when liberals decide they can cure/help any little problem that should be personal responsibility with the money they remove from everyone who knows how to exercise personal responsibility.

We are beyond the slippery slope. Now plummeting down the fast part of the chute.


8 posted on 03/12/2007 8:35:31 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Aglooka

Live free er...um not.

rat mentality continues its path to destruction of the American life.


9 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:04 AM PDT by soycd
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To: manic4organic

Not Ducky

10 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is time to stop the left at the wall.)
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To: manic4organic

Somebodies Having untaxed fun. TAX!TAX!TAX!


11 posted on 03/12/2007 8:37:19 AM PDT by Tricky j
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To: Aglooka

They will try and blame this on us "Massholes" as they so classily and politely refer to us, but we didn't have anything to do with this, unless they want to invoke the "last one over the bridge" defense.


12 posted on 03/12/2007 8:38:45 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: RonF

This is the law in Illinois and Wisconsin. I don't know what the charges are in Wisconsin, but in Illinois it costs me $12 for a 2-year sticker."

As a bookkeeper, I would bet that the price of processing the paperwork and the sticker is $12 or more, so this is just a giant cost of money or at best, a wash of money. Employment for another group of paper pushers and a bopther for the public.

Next they will go after the kids on the innertubes. After all, those work both summer in the water AND winter on the snow...


13 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:02 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: soycd
rat mentality continues its path to destruction of the American life.

But look at the sponsors...

Bill Sponsors: Barnes (Republican) Gallus (Republican) D'Allesandro (Democrat)
14 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:57 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Aglooka

Massholes?


15 posted on 03/12/2007 8:41:32 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (If you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone. Don't push your morality on others.)
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To: RonF

Not only is it the law in Illinois, but the Dept of Natural Resources patrols the lakes and rivers, and if you don't have your sticker, they will impound your canoe or kayak. Taxpayer dollars at work in the Land of Lincoln!


16 posted on 03/12/2007 8:42:17 AM PDT by ushr435
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To: manic4organic
"Are Floaties and Noodles next?"

Or at least rubber rafts and air mattresses?

17 posted on 03/12/2007 8:42:22 AM PDT by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: manic4organic

Water Wings and Fart Bubbles as well. In fact, they'll throw you into the water and if the water rejects you and you float, you get taxed. If the water accepts you, you pay nothing.


18 posted on 03/12/2007 8:44:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: RonF

If there's a tax or fee for kayaks, that'll be news to me and a lot of others I know.


19 posted on 03/12/2007 8:54:44 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "These lefties are terminally inebriated on dishonesty." The Nuge)
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To: RonF

If there's a tax or fee for kayaks in Wisconsin, that'll be news to me and a lot of others I know.


20 posted on 03/12/2007 8:59:08 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "These lefties are terminally inebriated on dishonesty." The Nuge)
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To: RonF

21 posted on 03/12/2007 9:02:05 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "These lefties are terminally inebriated on dishonesty." The Nuge)
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To: Aglooka

Just Tattoo a Tax Stamp to your Butt. That way you can pay a sitting on your *ss tax.


22 posted on 03/12/2007 9:03:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Aglooka
Next, tax bicycles!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 03/12/2007 9:06:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Aglooka

WWWD? What Would Washington Do?

You may say that we have a representative form of government, but, with a few exceptions on the local level, I don't think so. In effect, we have confiscatory taxation at all levels of government, a government that no longer fulfills its most important duties (see the Southern border and illegal immigrants choking schools and hospitals) and a political process that is distorted by mass media appeal rather than substance.

Lamentably, we citizens have our share of the blame. Our culture is so dumbed down that I doubt the average American has the civic IQ or the basic knowledge of issues to make informed choices at the polls or to otherwise intelligently add their voice to the debate.

As I have been saying for quite some time: "Time for another Tea Party" (And for you DUmmies: no, I don't mean violent uprising, just a bloodless revolution to get us back to the greatness that marked founding of this country)


24 posted on 03/12/2007 9:09:37 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Aglooka

Near us there are usually at least one canoe drowning a year. clearly we must ban Canoes and Kayaks for the good of the people. We especially should outlaw any canoes that hold more than 5 people. Oh the Hugh Manatee!!


25 posted on 03/12/2007 9:16:56 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: MichiganConservative
Massholes?

A Masshole is a liberal from the Gay State who,for whatever reason (the skiing?) decided to move to NH and,when they arrived,realized that they must,with their ballots and contributions,vote to change their new home from a low tax,minority hating,gun loving Nazi backwater to a "progressive" paradise..

Today,Massholes represent a huge percentage of NH's voters...as evidenced by the fact that last November New Hampshire re-elected their RAT governor with about 75% of the vote and by the fact that both of their House seats,which had been held by Republicans,are now held by proud,unapologetic Marxist RATS.

26 posted on 03/12/2007 9:22:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: Aglooka

Not too surprised by the effort to tax canoes and kayaks. What will be interesting is to see how these politicians define a 'non-motorized vessel'. Is a dug-out log a vessel? A wooden barrel? An inner tube? 6 noodles duct-taped together? At some point the politicians look like money grubbing fools.


27 posted on 03/12/2007 9:42:34 AM PDT by live+let_live ("God is a mathematician with an eye for art.")
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To: ridesthemiles
Alaska did this a while back, anything over 10 ft had to be registered.

Lots of backlash from the sheep local voters.

Now anything with a motor, even a trolling motor, has to have a state sticker.

28 posted on 03/12/2007 9:44:23 AM PDT by ASOC ("Once humans are exposed to excellence, mere average desirability is disappointing")
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To: Aglooka

Taxman by The Beatles

Let me tell you how it will be;
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don't take it all.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

(if you drive a car, car;) - I’ll tax the street;
(if you try to sit, sit;) - I’ll tax your seat;
(if you get too cold, cold;) - I’ll tax the heat;
(if you take a walk, walk;) - I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!

'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Don't ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Now my advice for those who die, (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

And you're working for no one but me.

Taxman!


29 posted on 03/12/2007 9:46:40 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Gay State Conservative
Today,Massholes represent a huge percentage of NH's voters...

That's a shame. Too bad about what happened to NH, Vermont, and the rest of New England. Does anyone still refer to Connecticut as the arsenal of freedom?

30 posted on 03/12/2007 9:55:53 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (If you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone. Don't push your morality on others.)
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To: MichiganConservative
Does anyone still refer to Connecticut as the arsenal of freedom?

I don't know about "arsenal of freedom" but it's the only New England state that a single Republican Congressman...and Lament lost there.

31 posted on 03/12/2007 10:10:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: ushr435

"the Dept of Natural Resources patrols the lakes and rivers, and if you don't have your sticker, they will impound your canoe or kayak."

You have just hit on the real reason for the tax. It allows the LEO's to stop and interrogate you for anything and look for other infractions. Just like the mandatory seat belt laws. The DNR have expanded their LEO arm and the need more things to do and people to hassle. I live in Indiana and it's happening here.


32 posted on 03/12/2007 10:17:43 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Aglooka
Alabama has a "registration" law for motorized water vessels,but not for craft without motors.They did,however,implement a fee for hunting on public land.Keep in mind this land was paid for with "Robertson/Pittman" money,taxed onto all hunting and fishing equipment one buys.So,we now have to buy a hunting license,fishing license,state duck stamp(if one hunts waterfowl),federal duck stamp,and fill out a Migratory Bird Survey(which sooner or later will be an addistional cost).

So,I quit hunting all together.They can kiss my a$$.Next will be a "tag" for boat trailers.Then they can tax you on your way to the water,in the water,and back home from the water.

33 posted on 03/12/2007 10:32:29 AM PDT by quack
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To: Aglooka
Look ON in horror: The Liberalization of N.H.

Soon NH will be a copy of Vermont.

34 posted on 03/12/2007 11:21:24 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: ConservativeLawyer; commonerX; proud_yank; kanawa

PADDLER'S PING!

35 posted on 03/12/2007 12:28:50 PM PDT by SquirrelKing ("When a coin in the carbon pot rings, out of global warming hell a soul does spring." - Timothy Ball)
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To: MichiganConservative

You were right in the first four letters.


36 posted on 03/12/2007 12:39:48 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: TexasRepublic

Next time you hear this playing, ask folks if they can tell you who Mr. Wilson and Mr. Heath were.


37 posted on 03/12/2007 3:11:54 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Gay State Conservative

First of all, the bill has not been introduced, but has not been voted on. Let's not characterize the entire state by what a handful of policiticians want. If not, we can start with some of the bills that were introduced in say, Massachusetts, over the years....
As for the voters in NH, note that the votes for John Kerry in 2004 came from the northernmost counties, not the south (where the MA refugees are located). The North of NH has more "net-takers" from society than the south. Those who have escaped from MA (I am one of them; 12 years ago) are the type of people that vote more conservative and elect Republicans. We'll see what happens in 2008. Remember that if NH had gone the other way in 2000, the FL result would have been irrelevant and President Gore would have been in charge during 9/11....


38 posted on 03/20/2007 10:09:31 AM PDT by seamusnh
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To: Aglooka

2 RINOS and a rat conspire to deface other folks property and charge ya for it.


39 posted on 03/20/2007 10:11:54 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: RonF
"This is the law in Illinois and Wisconsin. "

No it is not. The IL rule was voluntary, and I hadn't ever heard it changed. Flatlander's lauching their canoes and kayak's at the local lauch here in WI ~month ago, were not defaced with a 3" high, 1.5-2' long string of numbers. Folks only do it, to avoid being pulled over for a "papers please" check, in places like the MN boundary waters.

40 posted on 03/20/2007 10:18:31 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: RonF

Sorry, looks like IL does require registration. The Statutes say a $6 fee. The regs don't require defacing the canoe, or kayak with the numbers though. That explains why I never see them, just the little IL DNR tag. WI requires no such thing. It's voluntary, like hwy trailer registration.


41 posted on 03/20/2007 11:18:44 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: seamusnh

The measure failed in the state senate. I think it was 26 to 0...


42 posted on 03/27/2007 2:48:29 PM PDT by seamusnh
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