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To: cogitator
Even though one can calculate the energy required to produce the nickel in a hybrid battery, it really isn't responsible for all of the enviromental damage around the smelters and refinery, is it? Nickel is used for more than the batteries in hybrid cars.

They're not called rednecks for nothing. Brainpower is not their strong suit.

How long has that nickel mine and smelter been there in Sudbury Ontario? I suspect for generations before the Prius existed.

By the way, how much does a Hummer go for these days?
I bet not one of the clowns whooping it up today can come close to knowing the total volume of the "toxic" Prius batteries. No much more than the battery in a large pickup or SUV.

Where do all the dead lead-acid batteries go?
If they can be recycled, why can't the nmh ones?

94 posted on 03/14/2007 9:51:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961
Well... thanks, good points. I don't get your "rednecks" reference, though.

Sudbury's been there a long time (mining, I mean). It's actually an high-metal-content asteroid. I apologize if you knew that already.

Regional Metallogeny Ni-Cu-PGE: Metallogeny of the Sudbury Mining Camp, Ontario

"The Sudbury Structure is the remnant of a 1.85 Ga multiring impact basin and is a geological feature of extraordinary economic and scientific significance that remains enigmatic in many important respects. Sudbury, Canada and Noril'sk-Talnak, Russia are two of the world-class Ni producing regions. The Sudbury ore deposits have produced over 264 billion dollars worth of metal in the past century from over 70 Ni-Cu-PGE deposits and two minor, past producing hydrothermal Zn-Pb-Cu deposits. The continued prosperity of the Sudbury region depends on mining in the Sudbury Structure at considerably greater depths and smarter use of new geoscience knowledge created to find the lucrative hydrothermal- magmatic Cu-PGE vein deposits at shallow levels."

The page below indicates that NiMH batteries are recyclable. Seems like the auto industry will have to get on board with that.

http://www.grinningplanet.com/2004/12-21/battery-recycling-article.htm

103 posted on 03/15/2007 7:39:27 AM PDT by cogitator
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