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Obama Was a "Registered" Muslim...(In Indonesia as a Child)
SOLID POLITICS ^
| March 15, 2007
Posted on 03/15/2007 10:57:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Barack Obama is taking heat from Jews and homosexuals in the wake of a report in the Los Angeles Times that he was once a "registered" Muslim. The LA Times reports that Obama did not attend a radical madrasa as Fox News claimed earlier this year. But the LA Times discovered that "Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both of the schools he attended" in Indonesia as a child. The Obama campaign has consistently downplayed any Islamic connection.
The revelation won't play well with many Americans. The Des Moines Register reports today that "Obama's expression of sympathy for the Palestinian people while campaigning in Iowa this week prompted questions from some Jewish Democrats in Iowa."
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Iowa; War on Terror
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Uh oh...wonder which Clinton operative leaked this to the LA Times? Of course she'll blame the VRWC.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
that he was once a "registered" MuslimUh -- so what? I was "baptized" as a baby.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:00:48 PM PDT
by
John123
(Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
To: John123; Beckwith
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:03:24 PM PDT
by
FethFiada
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uh oh...wonder which Clinton operative leaked this to the LA Times? Of course she'll blame the VRWC. This is such a non-story. It's not like he had any choice how he was "registered." The fact he was registered as a muslim in a muslim country when his dad was a muslim is a non-starter. I don't think this will matter with the RAT base because those stupid morons think Islam is a religion of peace.
Talk to me instead about how much of a marxist LIBERAL he is. That's why he's unelectable in my mind.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is silly. Indonesia is the most liberal of the surrounding Muslim Countries.
During the time Obama was there, pupils were required to state an affiliation with a major world religion. When enrolling a child, the common practice was to list the father's faith. Which was Islam, while his mom was an atheist.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:06:58 PM PDT
by
FLOutdoorsman
(“For, if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in a dry?”)
To: NYRepublican72
I'm not saying it matters to me, personally (although he refuses to address it). It's the fact that it will hurt him with the electorate much more than his Marxist tendencies (which should be what we are discussing--I agree with you). This smells like Clinton "war room" tactics to me.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:07:14 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, I don't disagree with you that the evil Clintonistas are trying to bring this back to the forefront. And it's kind of entertaining to watch RATS eat their own.
I don't think most RATS will care about BARAQ OBAMA OSAMA BIN LADEN SADDAM HUSSEIN's Muslim ties because they view Islam as a "religion of peace" instead of a religion whose fanatical zealots want to KILL us.
The one weird thing about this election cycle is how fast the dirt on the candidates is flowing out. Perhaps it's because of the accelerated cycle.
To: NYRepublican72
It's all the fault of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, the Washington Times, NY Post and Ann Coulter, don't you know?!
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:20:08 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know Ann Coulter is especially culpable.. She mentioned the word fag and John Edwards in the same sentence. Off to reeducation camp Ann for not being PC enough. /sarcasm
The MSM does downplay that radical muslims WANT TO KILL US. Glossing over 9/11 and playing the DNC talking point of the day about how much carnage there is in Iraq. Even if the troop surge is working.
We should never forget what they did on 9/11. It makes my blood boil even thinking about it.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
To: John123
so what? I believe he would be considered apostate by Islamic law and thus devout Muslims should try to kill him.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:31:36 PM PDT
by
patriciaruth
(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
To: NYRepublican72
Just my thoughts. Pin MARXIST on him, not Muslim. Hey, he smokes, drinks....hmmmm not a good muslim.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:34:11 PM PDT
by
Gracey
(Rudy/Rice..... 2008 vs Hitlary/Osama Obama)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
So the question is: where is the evidence? I've never heard of *Solid Politics* so that is not a source I can respect.
I would love for it to be true that Obama was a Muslim - but so far no evidence.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:38:22 PM PDT
by
Sunsong
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:38:22 PM PDT
by
Ciexyz
(Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yet another hit job on "Obama Osama". Obama needs to do his own whack job on Hitlery, otherwise he'll just look impotent.
To: Sunsong
Click onto the LA Times story in the column in Solid Politics...
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:45:43 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
To: NYRepublican72
"The one weird thing about this election cycle is how fast the dirt on the candidates is flowing out."
That's good and great. Now, if only we could harness the energy of this dirt flow, the country will never need one drop of oil from all the assorted baboons, from chaveses and putins to middle-eastern types. It would do wonders to our balance of trade, too.
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posted on
03/15/2007 11:50:16 PM PDT
by
GSlob
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Awesome how FoxNews has been co-opted by Hillary's campaign to their dirty work. FoxNews seems uniquely desperate to tar Obama...hmm... I wonder why.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is called a "paint your opponent" story. It is not written to hurt Oboma but republicans. Why?
" The LA Times reports that Obama did not attend a radical madrasa as Fox News claimed earlier this year."
They are saying the claim is from the evil FOX NEWS so most people that think it is bigoted to look at people by their religion will think that is what fox news does.
Fox=bigoted
Next will be FOX=Lies
There will be lots of hidden attacks on all the pro consertive outlets to discredit them before the election even starts.
It's called shaping the battlefield.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Again with this cr*p? Just move on over to white-christian-mans-only-forum and get it over with.
Bigoted garbage like this is exactly what the left needs as proof of their claims.
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posted on
03/16/2007 12:48:21 AM PDT
by
ndt
To: John123
Uh -- so what? I was "baptized" as a baby.
Well if old Hussein was a Moo and renounced it he becomes an apostate and every Moo has the duty to send him to Allah....
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posted on
03/16/2007 12:55:57 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another story for the MSM to ignore.
To: John123
Uh -- so what? I was "baptized" as a baby. As was mentioned by someone else...as an "EX-muslim" he's considered an apostate. There are about 1.3 BILLION muslims that are required by the quran to kill him. I thought the left was concerned about our relations with other nations in the world...guess not.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:00:41 AM PDT
by
highlander_UW
(I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
To: FLOutdoorsman
the common practice was to list the father's faith. Which was Islam, while his mom was an atheist
Thanks for that -- I feel much better.
You seem to have overlooked Obama's faith in your post. Obama is/was a third generation Muslim. Born a Muslim. Raised a Muslim. Studied the Koran as a Muslim and attended prayers as a Muslim.
When Obama was in Jakata, all Indonesian students were required to study religion at school and a young Barry Soetoro, being a Muslim, would have been
required to study Islam daily in school.
He would have been taught to read and write Arabic, to recite his prayers properly, to read and recite from the Quran and to study the laws of Islam.
According to
Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal of Besuki Primary School from 1971 throuh 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school. His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.
"I remembered that he had studied "menjaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Tine said.
Classmate Rony Amiris
describes young Barry as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.
But, what has any of this to do with the 21st Century?
THIS -- In 2001, Obama
sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the "Halal Food Act," providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
Obama was responsible for amending the laws of the State of Illinois to include elements of Shari'a law.
Just wait until he gets his hands on the U. S. Constitution.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:22:18 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
(The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
To: John123
that he was once a "registered" MuslimUh -- so what? I was "baptized" as a baby.
You were open about it, B Hussein Obama is trying to hide the fact. You're not running for POTUS, B Hussein Obama is. It does matter.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:25:19 AM PDT
by
AlaskaErik
(Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
To: Beckwith
If he is a confessed Christian now, and then I'll take him for his word. But, he's still a Marxist.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:34:44 AM PDT
by
FLOutdoorsman
(“For, if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in a dry?”)
To: Beckwith
Thanks for the ping, but I had already read your post.
In this country, we judge people by the adults they become, not the lives they were born into.
Making an issue out of how his parents did or did not raise him when he was a child is to judge the man by the circumstances of his birth.
It is quite possible the most frighteningly ignorant position I have heard argued around here in quite a while and utterly at odds with conservative values.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:35:58 AM PDT
by
ndt
To: ndt
Judge this:
THIS -- In 2001, Obama sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the "Halal Food Act," providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law.
Obama was responsible for amending the laws of the State of Illinois to include elements of Shari'a law. This is current.
I love your opening to the second paragraph, "In this country ..." -- since I have been in this country longer than you, I have some sense of what goes on here and really don't need a lecture by an arrogant whipper-snapper -- the later opinion arrived at by reading your closing paragraph. You have a very high opinion of yourself.
You can defend Obama with all the vigor you can muster. A man's core beliefs are established as a child and as a child Obama was a Muslim.
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posted on
03/16/2007 1:49:25 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
(The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fact he lied about it is huge. He has fibbed a lot from what I can tell.
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posted on
03/16/2007 2:21:41 AM PDT
by
tkathy
(Rudy/DennisMiller 2008)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
REGISTER MUSLIMS
NOT GUNS
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posted on
03/16/2007 2:24:14 AM PDT
by
B-Chan
(Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
To: NYRepublican72
I call him Obama YoMama...as in...Yo Mama is so white...(fill in appropriately with your own "dozens" version)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
03/16/2007 3:09:53 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
03/16/2007 3:44:11 AM PDT
by
XR7
To: NYRepublican72
This is such a non-story. It's not like he had any choice how he was "registered." True. But he does have a choice when it comes to lying about it.
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posted on
03/16/2007 3:46:46 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: Gracey
Hey, he smokes, drinks....
And so did the 9-11 hijackers. What they did on 9-11 was supposed to make up for that (right, 72 voracious ghoulies, not virgin girls)
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:08:41 AM PDT
by
Fred Hayek
(Liberalism is a mental disorder)
To: Beckwith
As far as I'm concerned Barak Hussein Obama has three Muslim names. Where was his mother's input when it came time to name him? His degenerate father did all the naming? She must have been a loony left multiculturalist type way before we even had a name for it. Check his mother out and you'll find a nut (my speculation)
Anyways- Hussein Obama has had too many Islam lessons. That stuff gets imprinted on you when you are young. You don't forget. And check out the wacko church he joined to compensate
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:12:55 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
But the LA Times discovered that "Obama was registered by his family as a Muslim at both of the schools he attended" in Indonesia as a child.
So the one school said it was just a neighborhood school with lots of kids from all different religions. What about the other one?
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:18:59 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: 2ndDivisionVet
By the way, I'm tired of hearing that it's just his middle name that's Muslim. "Baraq" can also be a Muslim name. It was the name of Mohammed's horse.
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:35:50 AM PDT
by
Fairview
( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
This all means that Hussein is a lapsed Muslim. He was indoctrinated.
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:38:50 AM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. N.P.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
... a clean and well articulated muzzie terrorist!
LLS
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:40:14 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
To: dennisw
Check his mother out and you'll find a nut
I have repeatedly looked for information on Anna Dunham -- even a birth date.
All I know is she was born in Kansas, went to Hawaii, married two Muslims and sent her son, at age ten, to be raised by his grandparents while she stayed in Indonesia where she remained until her death.
If anyone has anymore information, I would appreciate a link via mail.
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posted on
03/16/2007 4:56:04 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
(The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Perhaps this is where O-bomb-a's sympathy for the "Palestinians" comes from.
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posted on
03/16/2007 5:09:30 AM PDT
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: Fairview
Good point! Buraq was Mohammed's winged horse (man what a dumb religion).
The most lethal thing Hillary! could do to Obama's chances would be to start spelling his name "Buraq"
To: NYRepublican72
HIs being a registered Muslim is a big thing for two significant parts of the DemoRat base, the Jews and the gays. Hence, the Witch is using it for all it's worth, the blacks be d***ed, provided her fingerprints aren't found on the attack.
To: ozzymandus
"Another story for the MSM to ignore."
Did you even bother to look at the source of the story before making this dumb comment?
To: John123
It's not so much being registered as I see it, but that he denied having any connection at all, and instead ridiculed and attacked Fox for their reporting.
It's the coverup that gets you, not the initial charges. Look at Gonzalez.....
To: Beckwith
"Judge this:"
Halal Foods? Are you serious?
Clearly this was an insidious plot to complete the unholy trinity.
Halal
Kashrut Certified Organic
If you sit around worrying about Halal food laws, you have way too much time on your hands
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posted on
03/16/2007 7:58:17 AM PDT
by
ndt
To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's actually somewhat comforting. If Osama, er, Obama becomes President the Jihadists will label him an apostate deserving death. He will be forced to be on our side.
To: Beckwith
You wouldn't happen to shave your head, would you?
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posted on
03/16/2007 8:09:51 AM PDT
by
atlaw
To: ndt
Laugh at this.
The following is a description from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they wont integrate, but work to build their own separate community.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Paris car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines and Israel).
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Sudan, Western Papua (New Guinea), Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
The folks over at CAIR rely on people like yourself.
Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.
Omar M. Ahmad, Chairman of the Board, Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Conference in Freemont, California, July 1998 -- San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
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"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."
Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR Spokesperson
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Once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it ... There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means to do it
If we are outside this country, we can say, 'Oh, Allah, destroy America.'"
Abdulrahman Alamoudi, 1996, at an Islamic conference in Chicago
Abdulrahman Alamoudi served in the 1990s as States goodwill ambassador to Muslim countries.
(In 2004 Alamoudi was sentenced to a 23-year prison sentence for violating anti-terrorism sanctions, including a plot to kill the Saudi ruler.)
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Nihad Awad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said, Im in support of the Hamas movement.
This is not in dispute. It was was captured live on videotape as he uttered those words at Barry University in Florida in 1994
Nihad Awad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), also said " The United States should and will be ruled by Sharia Law ".
Keep on laughing -- guys like you will be the first one to become Dhimmi or join the ROP.
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posted on
03/16/2007 11:22:42 AM PDT
by
Beckwith
(The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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