NASA's Griffin Says China May Reach Moon Before US

aero-news.net ^ | Sat, 17 Mar '07

[from occupied ga]

The combination of a concerted, well-staffed effort by China -- along with recent budget cuts and the resulting delays at NASA -- may very well mean the Chinese will beat the US back to the Moon, NASA Administrator Michael Griffin told Congress this week.

US has been there done that and got the T-shirt. Nothing but dead rock with no air (and now a few cast off us space craft parts). Every penny the Chinese spend on that boondoggle is a penny that they won't have to spend on things that matter - like buying oil that we could use in the USA.

[RightWhale]

Pineapples, turkeys, corn, tobacco. The Chinese navigator who mapped the world was moslem. The catalog of precolumbian Chinese items and precolumbian Chinese-style items found in the New World would be too heavy to send through the US Post Office. Portugal had mapped the east coast of North and South America 50 years before Columbus. The discovery of the fourth and fifth continents was quite a problem for the Bible thumpers 200 years before Columbus. The world history of the past 3000 years is far different than taught in public school or church school. RBOB gasoline is up 6 cents today to $1.96.

[Yo-Yo]

It's good to see that in 2007 the Red Chinese can duplicate American 1960s technology.

[RightWhale]

It's good to see that in 2007 the Red Chinese can duplicate American 1960s technology.

Probably. We ourselves can't, not when it comes to moon rockets, but we don't really want to. The US entry will be very advanced and the capability astounding, but it will take a while to build all this. It will be able to place astronauts on the moon for a 500-day stay, even on the far side.

[Paul Ross]

I thought that was all done in a secret Government film studio. Remember the flag waving in the breeze when there is no wind on the moon.

You're being facetious, right? If not, note the debunking of the conspiracists here at Wikipedia: Apollo Moon Landing Hoax Accusations Debunked

The flag "Waving" issue was just an undamped-oscillation that frequently is visible in the hard vaccuum of space.

[Paul Ross]

Other nice hoax-accusation-debunking sites: Goddard's and Bad Astronomy

[fish hawk]

Yes, I was just kidding around.

[Paul Ross]

Portugal had mapped the east coast of North and South America 50 years before Columbus.

What? The unpublished voyages of Vasco De Gama?

Now the Islamists at Al Jazeera are claiming they either discovered America first...or their brilliance led to it

[RightWhale]

The Arabs weren't first, but they were centuries before Columbus. And, they were moslem as was the Chinese world explorer.

[Paul Ross]

And, they were moslem as was the Chinese world explorer.

I wouldn't think a Muslim would have been as egregiously wrong on proportions as the Chinese map implies of the Arabian Penninsula, or Persia ...to be...

[RightWhale]

He was Chinese and mainly explored east of China, but also to Africa and beyond. Some of the map, especially Alaska, the north coast of Canada and San Francisco Bay was Marco Polo's doing. The Chinese had trading ports all up and down the west coast of the Americas.