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To: ziravan
Hey, Timothy, wouldn't voting for a libertarian candidate be just like voting for Rudy? Seriously, just swap two issues -- support for the WOT [rudy for libertarian against] and gun control [rudy for libertarian against] -- and you have, essentially, voted for the exact same platform.

I am not convinced that Rudy is going to be tough on guns at the federal level as an executive...I believe that he tried to clean up NYC because the people of that city clamored for it and he took a misguided approach but one that, surprisingly, netted positive results. It should have but perhaps there were other factors that reduced violent crimes and perhaps without gun control the results would have been even better.

57 posted on 03/18/2007 7:00:50 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe
It would be similar only IF the Libertarian candidate had a chance at winning.

Look, America has survived liberal Democrats in office before, and will do so again. Can the Republican party survive a liberal Republican in office? That's a more vexing question.

The heart and soul of the Republican party should be contended in good faith. I'd rather LOSE when losing means no substantial difference than 'win' when winning means the destruction of that upon which I stand.

Whether a Republican party, headed by Rudy wins or loses, the result is STILL a liberal is in the White House. IF the party loses, then, to quote one of Rudy's peers, the party at least will learn that you have to 'dance with them that brung ya'.

THAT lesson would be worth the price paid, since that price by comparison of Rudy vs. Hillary (or name your loser here) would be minimal.

The issue however, doesn't come down to 'teaching a lesson'. It comes down to personal principle. I cannot vote for such a person, no matter what party label he or she chooses to wear. It is a matter of integrity. In the end, it's the agenda that matters, and NOT the label.

You can quote 'Rudy is good for the war' or some other stuff if you like. In reality, there is every bit as much a war going on over values and I will not purposely choose which war is more important to win. They both are. If it takes being temporarily lost in the wilderness to bring down the walls of Jericho, then that is a price that would need to be paid in order to learn the value of faith.

Rudy is a feckless choice. Indeed, it would be no choice at all. Run, Newt! Run!

~faith.
66 posted on 03/18/2007 7:20:25 AM PDT by ziravan (winning the lotto one vote at a time.)
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