Posted on 03/19/2007 5:13:53 AM PDT by captjanaway
The CIA guy who was there, and wrote a book about it, said 1,500 AQ/Taliban went in and 75, including OBL, made it out. Of course when Tim Russert interviewed him every question portrayed this battle as a defeat because OBL got away. Yes, 95% of the enemy were killed but Mr. Potato Head, John F'n Kerry, and the other lefties tell us it was a defeat or blunder.
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--Megaton bombs were dropped at the rate of 260 a day to ferret out the terrorists.--
Megaton? One million tons of TNT? There are no such conventional bombs, only nuclear. That, along with the Las vegas convention stuff, hurts the article's credibility.
C:\> DIR OSAMA*.*
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is OU812
Directory of C:\
Terrorist Not Found
if he released a video saying faggot or speaking out against abortion i bet the left would send their goons out to find him, personally. braving the dangerous territories to save humanity.
This article is riddled from top to bottom with silly inaccuracies.
Regarding Op Anaconda (which this author brings up and lies about) the reality is hundreds and hundreds of AQ/Taliban (and their Chechen supports) died in those mountains during that Operation......They did at times put up stiff resistance while holding the high-ground in numerous areas (AQ/Chechens that is)....but they were throughly defeated over the course of the Op. And they died in the hundreds.
Did we drop a hell of a lot of ordinance from fast-movers during it? Without a doubt! Was it all effective....No.
But when one understands that region and fighting in that terrain you understand air power isn't going to have the same kill percentages as it does it most other areas. But it most assuredly keeps the enemies heads down!....And that is a victory enough.....while boots are moving on them.
Back to UBL. Is he alive? Yes (IMPO). Is killing him of great importance. Without a doubt....and the value of doing so is often under weighted.
However trying to find a man in that region of the world is an unbelievably difficult task. Most simply don't comprehend the complexities. Hell, the logistics of just running sustained operations can be a nightmare.
You are talking apprx 40,000 square miles in the NWFP alone! One is looking at roughly 1,500 miles of border between Stan and Pakistan.....A region that is mostly completely autonomous from any Gov't (and has been for centuries).....A region with every type of landscape possible from snow capped mountains, to flush valley's, to desert.
Bottom line is where UBL and Zawahiri have eked out their survival is in a sh*t part of the world and an even sh*tter area to operate in or to bring progress to....(and they know it and choose this area because of such)
Do we need the Pak Gov't to do more? Yes (where they can). But cutting the funding they need to even be adequate at the jobs we need them to do....would serve no benefit to us (in the big picture)....Which the Dem's are calling for today.
The situation sucks. Plain and simple. Though the concept of saying to hell with it....come hell or high-water we're coming in to drag UBL and Zawahiri out is a mindset at times I could really agree with....(though even that doesn't mean we'd catch the SOB in any short time period). Understand Zarqawi survived in Iraq over 3 years while we had a 140,000 + U.S. soldiers on the ground there (and the support of the majority of the people).
We wouldn't have the support of 5% of the people in these border regions of Pak
And the date..... December 2001.
Then it would be 3 words.
Does 2001 count as a word?
Dev, I've followed your posts on this for some time. What do you think the best way to catch him is?
Uh, how old are his children's children?
If he has grandchildren, their heads should be in there, too, regardless of age.
In order to get the HUMINT we need.....shooters cannot be stifled from HUMINT potential Ops because of risk adverse Highers / HQs...(and this has been a problem to date)
As I mentioned above. There is no easy answers and it is without question a complete sh*t area of the world to operate in (which is why UBL and Zawahiri are there)...But make no mistake there are brave warriors risking their lives 24/7 trying to make this happen (kill both these SOBs)
Professionally befriending a few knuckle-dragging Pashtuns with their own ambitions is without question a must as well(and is happening.....but this process takes time). Even finding a few gold hungry Uzbeks who are currently fighting Taliban / AQ in the Pak border regions could be of valuable HUMINT..
Bottom line is...just like with Zarqawi, Saddam and his sons...We'll get both their sorry as$es one of these days.
That would make us no better than them.
Nope. If he'd have left us alone, we never would have bothered him or his children or his grandchildren. He initiated force, he gets to live with the consequences.
Thats one of the reasons it looks like we're going to lose - we won't do the messy work.
When we start purposefully killing little children because their grandfather is a bad guy, then we've already lost.
When we let brainwashed toddlers grow up to revenge their "heroic" fathers or to blow themselves and innocents up, then we've lost.
LOL I'm so very glad we don't have sickos like you in power.
Or sign him up for an account from Columbia House.
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