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Ex-CIA chief says U.S. must act on climate
Reuters ^ | 19 Mar 2007 | Paul Taylor

Posted on 03/19/2007 8:07:16 AM PDT by Sulsa

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The United States must act to cap its emissions of greenhouse gases and join the fight against climate change or risk losing global leadership, a former CIA director said in a report released on Monday.

"The United States must adopt a carbon emission control policy," John Deutch, head of the Central Intelligence Agency in 1995-96, said in a report to the Trilateral Commission, a grouping of business and opinion leaders from Europe, the United States and Asia.

"If the United States or any other OECD country that is a large producer of greenhouse gas emissions is to retain a leadership role in other areas, it cannot just opt out of the global climate change policy process," he wrote.

Deutch, an energy specialist who is now a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also proposed an expanded use of nuclear power, international cooperation to develop clean coal technology and a sharing of the costs of emissions control between rich countries and large emerging nations.

He advocated an additional tax of about $1 per gallon on gasoline, diesel and other petroleum products in the United States, coupled with a tightening of fuel economy standards for U.S. car manufacturers, to encourage fuel efficiency and dampen demand, while recognizing that would be politically difficult.

CAP AND TRADE

He suggested Washington use the same "cap and trade" system of limiting carbon dioxide emissions and issuing emissions permits to industry that can be traded, which the European Union currently uses.

His report to the council, created in 1973 to build a policy consensus among capitalist democracies on three continents, was the latest in a series of international studies highlighting the need for radical policy changes to combat global warming.

Deutch also listed so-called geotechnical measures under consideration to counterbalance climate change, including adding aerosols to the stratosphere, placing balloons or mirrors in the stratosphere and even "high altitude nuclear explosions to induce a nuclear 'spring.'

These ideas were so risky and hard to demonstrate technically that they highlighted the need to redouble efforts to mitigate human-induced climate change.

The report said the major industrialized countries must began a process of transition away from a petroleum-based economy to reduce their dependence on oil and gas imports for political as well as environmental reasons.

It also called for China and India to be admitted to the International Energy Agency to improve cooperation among major oil and gas importers and help avoid tensions over supplies.

While Deutch placed great expectations on carbon capture and sequestration technology to reduce emissions from coal-fired power stations, notably in China, a parallel report to the Trilateral Commission by French energy executive Anne Lauvergeon cast doubt on that solution.

Lauvergeon, chief executive of Areva, which builds nuclear power stations, said the capture and storage of carbon emitted through the burning of fossil fuels was too often presented as a miracle solution.

"This technology will ... not play a significant role in the limitation of carbon emissions for half a century," she wrote.


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The article is ho-hum, except for the fact that I'm not sure why an Ex-CIA Chief is an expert in climatology.

The interesting part is the picture that accompanies the article. It gives the impression that this freeway is completely clouded over with smog and CO2 gases, but when you read the caption, it says that it is just heavy fog. If you look at the median of the road, it's actually a bridge. Talk about misleading!!

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1 posted on 03/19/2007 8:07:25 AM PDT by Sulsa
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To: Sulsa

John Deutch?? Are you kidding?


2 posted on 03/19/2007 8:08:39 AM PDT by Obadiah (Republicans - the battered wives of Democrats.)
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To: Sulsa
"John Deutch,
head of the Central Intelligence Agency (1995-96)
report to the Trilateral Commission"


Almost a tri-fecta for the conspiracy crowd.
3 posted on 03/19/2007 8:09:54 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Sulsa

isn't he the dud that got caught at home with sensitive files on his computer?


4 posted on 03/19/2007 8:10:00 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: ken21

Yes. It would have been sensitive top secret paperwork too, but Sandy Burglar had paid a visit just previously.


5 posted on 03/19/2007 8:11:51 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: edcoil

"CIA says GW a "Slam-Dunk!"


6 posted on 03/19/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by AU72
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To: theDentist

Anyone who runs on a platform of doing something about the weather needs to have a net thrown over him and the Drummel Tool applied. "It Cuts!"


7 posted on 03/19/2007 8:14:29 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sulsa

Has anyone seen this movie that is described in Thomas Sowell's recent article which is great. If it hasn't been posted, someone should post it as I'm pressed for time this AM. He sources a movie that ripped the Global Warming hysteria.

Believe it or not it was produced by the BBC, a devastating documentary titled "The Great Global Warming Swindle." It


http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell031507.php3

nick


8 posted on 03/19/2007 8:16:12 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: nikos1121

$1/gallon gasoline tax ? What for ?


9 posted on 03/19/2007 8:19:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: ken21
Is Deutsch the slippery eel who was investigated for improper handling of government classified information?

Is he the eel who kept government computers containing classified info in his home after his resignation?

Is he the eel who somehow managed to escape having a special prosecutor named to investigate his case?

Is he the eel.....need I continue with the questions?........

Yep, he da eel.

Leni

10 posted on 03/19/2007 8:19:30 AM PDT by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: Sulsa

"He advocated an additional tax of about $1 per gallon..."

No, thanks.


11 posted on 03/19/2007 8:20:31 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: ken21

Yeah the Deutch file is much worst than you think...he is a TRAITOR of the highest order a typical Clinton CIA Director...do your own background search and see.


12 posted on 03/19/2007 8:24:11 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Obadiah

Exactly. Why would anyone believe anything this guy has to say. It's amazing that these Washington failures manage to retain credibility.


13 posted on 03/19/2007 8:28:26 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Hillary - the Empty Pants Suit)
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To: Sulsa
Deutch, an energy specialist

At least we know what Deutch is an expert in now because Espionage and Climatology are certainly not it.

14 posted on 03/19/2007 8:28:31 AM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: ryan71

Just to increase revenue to the government and make life difficul;t for those least able to pay. The government obviously has way too much money, already. Let them clan up their own act.


15 posted on 03/19/2007 8:28:59 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Sulsa

Reading the headline, I didn't have to read the article or even think about it. Thinking: CIA... Chief... Traitor.. his name comes up in instant!


16 posted on 03/19/2007 8:30:20 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Sulsa

Don't forget this:

On July 17, 1996, TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747 bound for Paris, exploded shortly after takeoff from New York's Long Island, killing all 230 people on board.

John Deutch served as Director of Central Intelligence until December 1996.


17 posted on 03/19/2007 8:31:20 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (We all have been waiting for this day. May we live it well.)
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To: Sulsa

Another drinker of the Global Warming Koolaid.


18 posted on 03/19/2007 8:31:37 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: edcoil
"John Deutch, head of the Central Intelligence Agency (1995-96) report to the Trilateral Commission" Almost a tri-fecta for the conspiracy crowd."

Deutch was placed by Bill Clinton and was investigated for corruption, so it is a trifecta.

19 posted on 03/19/2007 8:32:49 AM PDT by Cooking101
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To: Sulsa

The climate issue is one of the biggest SCAMs on record by the government. It's got little to do with these yahoos, and our welfare. It's has to with $$$$, Legislation and and control by the NWO.....you can't explain this to people until they see it for themselves. You are spot on....very very misleading.


REPORT FROM IRON MOUNTAIN ON THE POSSIBILITY
AND DESIRABILITY OF PEACE

WITH INTRODUCTORY MATERIAL BY
LEONARD C. LEWIN

"A BOOK THAT SHOOK THE WHITE HOUSE."
--US. NEWS AND WORLD REPORT
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/research/iron1.html


Global warming The real agenda
By Terrence Corcoran
Copyright 1998 Financial Post
December 26, 1998
http://www.junkscience.com/dec98/corcoran.htm
________________________________________
What is the most important problem facing Canada? When the annual Maclean's/CBC year-end poll asked that question, there was at least one clear answer: Not the environment; in fact, anything but the environment. Ranked by percentage of people who identified one subject or another, the top worry among Canadians is unemployment (15%), followed by government spending, the economy, health care, national unity, taxes, poverty, education and crime. At the bottom of the list, garnering only 2% support, is the environment.
The possibility that 98% of Canadians are not in a state of high anxiety over global warming, freaky weather, ozone depletion, pollution and scores of other Green scares must be a teeth-gritting irritation to environmentalists. They have, after all, spent decades fertilizing the idea that we are on the brink of environmental disaster. Ottawa and the provinces have spent billions on the campaign, which includes turning the weather into a propaganda tool and the school system into an indoctrination camp that begins in kindergarten.

The poll is a testament to the good sense of Canadians. Despite relentless scare-mongering by bureaucrats and activists, Canadians remain unwaveringly fixed on a national economic agenda of growth and prosperity rather than on fantastic claims of apocalypse. When David Suzuki says global warming 'is the most urgent slow-motion catastrophe facing humankind,' nobody is paying much attention.

Except our politicians. Backed by an army of bureaucrats and researchers, governments are systematically preparing to shut down the engines of economic progress in the name of environmentalism. In Canada, the heart of the stop-growth campaign is Environment Canada, where key bureaucrats dedicated to imposing an environmental agenda on the country have seized control. The focus of their effort is global warming and climate change, which they intend to use as a lever to impose what can only be described as a new economic order.

The politician nominally in charge of all this is Environment Minister Christine Stewart. Whether Ms. Stewart fully understands what's going on around her is unknown, but during a recent visit with the editorial board of the Calgary Herald she certainly demonstrated her conversion to the religion of global warming.

Ms. Stewart said that, 'as minister of the environment, I am very worried about global warming,' which for a politician isn't saying much. Politicians are habitually 'very worried' about one thing or another. The trouble starts when they use their power to fix problems they're worried about, even if the problems don't exist. Ms. Stewart said she's prepared to do exactly that. 'No matter if the science is all phony,' she said, 'there are collateral environmental benefits.'

Environment Canada, therefore, is prepared to act on global warming even if there's no such thing as global warming. On the strength of phony science, the federal government would still be willing to impose new taxes on energy consumption, cut economic growth, reduce our standard of living, and create bookshelves filled with new regulation governing most facets of the lives of Canadians.

In another statement quoted by the Herald, Ms. Stewart gave another reason for adopting the religion of global warming. 'Climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about justice and equality in the world.' Here she gets closer to the core motivation of some of the leading global warming activists. Where socialism's attempt at a global redistribution of wealth ended in economic catastrophe, global warming is being wheeled in as the next new economic crusade.

Consolidating Ms. Stewart's statements, we reach some horrific conclusions. Whether global warming actually exists is irrelevant. It is, in the hands of government and environmental activists, a convenient front for the introduction of programs and economic policies that Canadians - and most citizens of the world - would not otherwise accept.

Ms. Stewart, perhaps unintentionally, has identified the two key foundations of the global warming movement. One is based in environmentalism, which essentially claims that human beings are a problem in nature. The other foundation is the old business of economic redistribution. Both these movements are linked in the international climate change treaty Canada signed in Kyoto.

Environment Canada has already given up trying to examine the science. It never really tried. Instead, it spends hundreds of millions of dollars churning out propaganda on the hypothetical effects of global warming. Its latest reports include hundreds of studies warning of everything from spreading insect-borne disease to increasing forest fires.

The Maclean's poll shows Canadians aren't going along with the government or the claims of environmentalists. If they knew what Ms. Stewart has in store for jobs and living standards, and why, they might take a greater interest.



Global warming

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638&q=The+Great+Global+Warming+Swindle&hl=en


21 posted on 03/19/2007 8:36:15 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Sulsa

Leaks, phoney documents, cronyism, more leaks, analysts "losing" laptops with hundreds of thousands of names, SS numbers and addresses, LEAKS, and now here's one posing as a climatologist. And THAT is just the CIA!!


22 posted on 03/19/2007 8:40:42 AM PDT by cake_crumb (When Congress prosecutes wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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To: All

FOLKS THIS IS THE DEMOCRATS SETTING UP SHADOW POLICY ALA A PARLAMENT.

They are INTENTIONALLY UNDERMINING THE PRESIDENT WITH THE PROMISE OF A DEMOCRAT IN OFFICE.

They can point to RINOs in the republican ranks and the entrenched left wingers in the bureacracy.


Essentially, 2008 is over. (if you follow their logic)


23 posted on 03/19/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MinuteGal

Yeah, John Deutch is the incompetent fool who was using unsecured home computers and an AOL account to handle our nation's most sensitive classified materials...... he's therefore well qualified to preach to all of us about scientific issues he knows nothing about.


24 posted on 03/19/2007 8:42:15 AM PDT by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "DUH...What do you mean there is uranium smuggling from DR Congo?")
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To: Sulsa

And people tell me to put on my tin foil when I talk about the NWO.....sheesh


25 posted on 03/19/2007 8:43:08 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Sulsa

On the other hand how can an agency unable to correctly analyze the threat possibility of Saddam's WMD expect us to believe they can analyze the threat possibility of mane made greenhouse gasses?


26 posted on 03/19/2007 8:43:46 AM PDT by cake_crumb (When Congress prosecutes wars, you get Another Viet Nam)
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To: Sulsa

You must obey the TriLateral Commission - after all it's the elites duly appointred governing body of the world. - Just ask Jimmy Carter and his cabinet.


27 posted on 03/19/2007 8:45:34 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Sulsa

That's why he's an "EX"
(and part of the great clintonian castration of the CIA)


28 posted on 03/19/2007 8:46:47 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Sulsa

Man, the smoke must've been potent during Clinton's administration. God help us if we get another eight years of that trash.


29 posted on 03/19/2007 8:47:03 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: ryan71
Come on, it is just an extra dollar per gallon. It is not like that is going to affect the normal person, mass transit, shipping costs, the price of just about every type of product, or the economy. Not to mention the government will be collecting the money so you know it will be spent wisely.
30 posted on 03/19/2007 8:47:29 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Halgr
"And people tell me to put on my tin foil when I talk about the NWO.....sheesh"

I would think if a former Director of the CIA was serious about the environment, he'd release some of that cleaner burning UFO propulsion technology they've been keeping under wraps since Roswell.

31 posted on 03/19/2007 8:49:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: nikos1121

Nik,

I posted this link last week. We need to keep promoting this video - Great Global Warming Swindle - because the msm sure won't.

Deutsch should have to view it too.

link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831


32 posted on 03/19/2007 8:50:39 AM PDT by Let's Roll ("...given the choice between war and dishonor, you chose dishonor - you will have war"- W.Churchill)
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To: Obadiah
John Deutch was Deputy to the SECDEF while I worked at the Pentagon. He was intensively disliked by everyone that I knew or that had dealings with him. In addition, he was unhappy about the Pentagon renovation project because of a pile driver outside of his E-ring office, and his displaced parking place, that he suspended the renovation for over a year, costing DoD millions of dollars in delay costs.
Then he skated on a charge of handling classified material.

What an ass----!
33 posted on 03/19/2007 8:53:49 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Sulsa

Not an expert merely playing one on tv. This is an expample of how ex politicians use their ( so called ) influence to make money as a lobbyist. Some group pays them 50,000 bucks to write some article or report ( ghost written for them of course) and then published. The sheep out there read it because of the name.

I wish people would recognize when this is happening so that it can be neutralized.


34 posted on 03/19/2007 8:55:19 AM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: Sulsa

Considering how many global warming scientists are social scientists not climate scientists what do you expect?

IT would be like having Lovie Smith manage the Cubs. Yes Lovie knows football and it is a sport and is good at it but doesn't mean he knows baseball.


35 posted on 03/19/2007 8:56:30 AM PDT by cubstoseries07
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To: Sulsa

"risk losing global leadership"

Leadership how?


36 posted on 03/19/2007 9:08:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Sulsa

In a FAIR jsutice system John Deutsch would be in prison for taking home CLASSIFIED....SUPER CLASSIFIED info!!


37 posted on 03/19/2007 9:10:53 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: MinuteGal
They told Deutsch that he would get off in exchange for "services rendered" in the future.

The chits are being called in now.

38 posted on 03/19/2007 9:14:02 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Sulsa

Maybe he needs to read this... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1803197/posts


39 posted on 03/19/2007 9:17:19 AM PDT by rivercat (The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Then he skated on a charge of handling classified material.

I appreciate your firsthand insight. The classified docs fiasco is what I remember about Deutch. John Deutch and Sandy Bergler...pfft. It figures the MSM would go to guys like them.

40 posted on 03/19/2007 9:30:50 AM PDT by Obadiah (Republicans - the battered wives of Democrats.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I would think if a former Director of the CIA was serious about the environment, he'd release some of that cleaner burning UFO propulsion technology they've been keeping under wraps since Roswell.

Shhhhh.... don't you know that, that's been the plan all along ?

Deutsch and Gore are in league with the Space Brothers (they're both actually hybrids; haven't you noticed the reptilian look of both of them ?)

The Whole Global Warming Agenda has been cooked up to allow the Aliens to Save Us via their zero point energy propulsion systems.

But it will be presented as the return of Jesus AND the Mahdi, all rolled into one, so that we will be deceived and accept the One World government.

Al Gore will then be installed as Prime Minister of the World.

Since oil will no longer be needed, the Arabs will no longer have the leverage that they do.

Al Gore will go to Jerusalem to host the signing of the peace treaty, with all parties agreeing to the New World Religion, led by "Jesus"/Mahdi.

The treaty will be signed on the Temple Mount.

At that point, with the entire planet tuned in via satellite television, Al Gore will shapeshift into his true reptilian self and be revealed as Satan.

41 posted on 03/19/2007 9:33:32 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Sulsa
He advocated an additional tax of about $1 per gallon on gasoline, diesel and other petroleum products in the United States, coupled with a tightening of fuel economy standards for U.S. car manufacturers, to encourage fuel efficiency and dampen demand, while recognizing that would be politically difficult.

Imagine the effect that will have on the economy. It is also a regressive tax that will hurt the poor and middle class more than anyone else. I can just imagine what kind of political support that would receive. LOL. This guy may be book smart, but he is an idiot when it comes to politics.

42 posted on 03/19/2007 9:40:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOLOLOLOLOL


43 posted on 03/19/2007 9:47:10 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: nikos1121
Believe it or not it was produced by the BBC, a devastating documentary titled "The Great Global Warming Swindle."

I know Sowell said this, but it wasn't produced by the BBC. It was (UK) Channel 4. And yes, it is brilliant!

44 posted on 03/19/2007 9:50:27 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: nikos1121

ITV (BBC'S competitor) DID ANOTHER 1 HR PROGRAM OVER A DECADE AGO.

"THE GREENHOUSE CONSPIRACY" IS SUPERB.

THE WESTERN FUELS ALLIANCE ALSO PRODUCED:

"THE GREENING OF PLANET EARTH"

I used both in my education programs in Dade County Public Schools, both for the teacher continuing education programs and the student programs.


45 posted on 03/19/2007 9:51:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: Sulsa

Isn't this the creep who was convicted of permitting a top secret laptop to be stolen?


46 posted on 03/19/2007 9:52:57 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Sulsa
I'm not sure why an Ex-CIA Chief is an expert in climatology

Well, I suppose he's gotta be expert in something, and it sure as hell isn't (wasn't) spy craft.

47 posted on 03/19/2007 10:22:16 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
In a FAIR jsutice system John Deutsch would be in prison for taking home CLASSIFIED....SUPER CLASSIFIED info!!

And leave it connected to the internet and open to access from his kids.

48 posted on 03/19/2007 10:23:19 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cooking101

Isn't he one the last day of office pardons by Clinton.


49 posted on 03/19/2007 10:31:20 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: GladesGuru; agere_contra
re: ITV and these programs - "The Great Global Warming; Swindle"; "THE GREENHOUSE CONSPIRACY"; "THE GREENING OF PLANET EARTH"

Do you have any information on whether it is possible to get DVD's of these?

50 posted on 03/19/2007 10:32:45 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (So what if I'm not rich? So what if I'm not one of the beautiful people? At least I'm not smart...)
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