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Latest MI GOP POLL: McCain 30% Giuliani 26% Romney %20 Gingrich 16% Thompson 2% Brownback 1%
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6248165 ^

Posted on 03/19/2007 1:37:15 PM PDT by nowandlater

It looks like a three way dog fight is emerging between Rudy, McCain, and Romney. As a Romney fan it looks like the advertising in selected states like NH an MI are working.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
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1 posted on 03/19/2007 1:37:22 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: AmericanMade1776; bcbuster; Bluestateredman; CaptainK; cgk; Choose Ye This Day; circumbendibus; ...

PING


2 posted on 03/19/2007 1:40:20 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater
30% for McQueeg? Man that is hard to believe. The people in Michigan need to wake up.
3 posted on 03/19/2007 1:42:31 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: nowandlater

Anybody but McCain.


4 posted on 03/19/2007 1:43:12 PM PDT by Wait4Truth ("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
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To: nowandlater

Makes some sense...MI trends liberal, doesn't it?

Why wouldn't they prefer someone like McCain/Feingo...I'm sorry, did I let that slip?


5 posted on 03/19/2007 1:43:21 PM PDT by aligncare
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To: nowandlater

'George W. Bush' is at the top of the list.


6 posted on 03/19/2007 1:44:25 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: nowandlater

Michigan has open primaries. Wonder if just republicans were polled or all voters......or adults.


7 posted on 03/19/2007 1:44:51 PM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: nowandlater

No debates with all the GOP candidates means no votes.


8 posted on 03/19/2007 1:46:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: nowandlater

Sorry, Romney is at 21% not 20. Anyway, here is the poll question:

If you were to vote in a Republican presidential primary or caucus in Michigan, which of the following candidates who have already announced or may announce they are running would you vote for if the election were held today? [READ & ROTATE 1-5 BELOW]

30%
John McCain

26%
Rudy Giuliani

21%
Mitt Romney

16%
Newt Gingrich

2%
Fred Thompson [volunteered]

1%
Sam Brownback

4%
Undecided


9 posted on 03/19/2007 1:46:55 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: OldFriend

Open primaries are bad in years where one party has a contested primary and the other party does not as a lot of hanky panky can go on.

This year with both parties nomination being contested, I think the open primaries are a good thing as the independent who votes in the primary will also vote in the general and they get their voice heard too.


10 posted on 03/19/2007 1:47:58 PM PDT by staytrue (If you don't support good conservative Joe Nobody for president, you are a RINO and not a "true cons)
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To: nowandlater

Who cares... FR is becoming a pathetic joke these days...

Bunch of paid staffers running around pimping their guy by trashing the rest of the field.

And post about it, and it gets pulled in 30 seconds.

What a shame...


11 posted on 03/19/2007 1:48:03 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: nowandlater
READ & ROTATE

Same to you, bub.

;->

12 posted on 03/19/2007 1:49:42 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

You have proof of this?


13 posted on 03/19/2007 1:49:44 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: FreedomNeocon
Who cares... FR is becoming a pathetic joke these days... Bunch of paid staffers running around pimping their guy by trashing the rest of the field.

Yes, that seems about right.

14 posted on 03/19/2007 1:50:10 PM PDT by staytrue (If you don't support good conservative Joe Nobody for president, you are a RINO and not a "true cons)
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To: Wait4Truth

I just don't think I could ever vote for McVain!


15 posted on 03/19/2007 1:51:17 PM PDT by JFC
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To: nowandlater

That's great news because Rudy isn't first.


16 posted on 03/19/2007 1:51:22 PM PDT by PhilCollins
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To: FreedomNeocon

Interesting theory you have there. Any corroboration?


17 posted on 03/19/2007 1:53:13 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: nowandlater

So clearly this included dem voters too. I remember when they crossed into the repub primary in droves to vote for McC once before.


18 posted on 03/19/2007 1:54:01 PM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: nowandlater

The next 21 months are going to be long....


19 posted on 03/19/2007 1:54:06 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The anti-libertarian)
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To: FreedomNeocon
No complaints here and I am not paid--just a guy with a severe online addiction. Pimp your respective candidate and make the case that he or she is the best for the cause. Let's hash out the good and the bad. I think that open, honest and spirit debate is the American way and help us choose the most conservative electable candidate which in my opinion is Mitt Romney!

How's this for a pimp?
MittRomney.com
20 posted on 03/19/2007 1:54:11 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater
Its a three-dogged race cause there's three dogs in the race. If Thompson was running then he would take a lot from both Romney and Guiliani. I wish I knew what Newt is thinking. Keeping himself in the mix is simply a distraction and he does not have a chance this time around.
21 posted on 03/19/2007 1:54:38 PM PDT by Ayal Rosenthal
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To: nowandlater
Did all 14 Michigan Republicans vote on this, or just a subset ;<)
22 posted on 03/19/2007 1:55:57 PM PDT by Jagman (I drank François Rabelais under the table!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The last few months have been long..

The rest are going to be unbearable.


23 posted on 03/19/2007 1:56:02 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: nowandlater
VIVA CASTRO!

(doofus)

24 posted on 03/19/2007 1:56:45 PM PDT by montag813
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To: JFC

The only way I'd vote for McCain is if he won the nomination and then it would only be to keep hillary or obama out of the Whitehouse. Luckily, I don't think McCain will win the nomination.


25 posted on 03/19/2007 1:57:18 PM PDT by Wait4Truth ("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
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To: nowandlater

Good news. Romney, the best candidate in the race, is moving up! : )


26 posted on 03/19/2007 1:57:32 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
MODERATOR! MODERATOR! we have another one that needs to be pulled.. /sarc
27 posted on 03/19/2007 1:57:49 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: PhilCollins

Six months from now that poll will show something quite different. Fred Thompson will be in the lead. I hope so. Rudy McRomney is NOT what we need.


28 posted on 03/19/2007 1:58:27 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: RabidBartender
Nope... no pay stubs I can fax you or anything.

Just comments, and posts... I mean the Hunter people openly posted about having 'official representatives' here, which is ok when they are just promoting Hunter.

Too many of them just post dozens of threads a day, hit pieces on Rudy with him that dress, or all the anti-gun, anti-abortion baggage that of course is his weakest aspects.

To be sure, he should be challenged on those points, and in no way would I say people should 'suck it up' and ignore them.

I just keep noticing the same names, playing the same games... there are inferences, and then you have common sense.

No doubt there are libs on here too, passing out the poison pills (for someone reason people think everyone posting on here are conservatives... just because thats how it started out years ago)

Anyway, I could care less if Rudy gets the nod, hell I'd vote for McStain in the general if somehow he got the nod in the primary, and enthusiastically vote for the rest of the field (though I really wish Santorum would get the VP call for one of 'em).

But my biggest concern is the scorched earth, making candidates unacceptable, instead of making yours more attractive... is going to lead to a 3rd party candidate and President Hillary Clinton. And I see the same people doing it time and time again.

I posted a vanity about it, asking how others felt, if they cared or if I was overreacting and it was ZOTTED within 30 seconds and removed. Not sure why, had 250 views in those 30s and 10 replies. Sure most complained about spelling or some other nonsense, but I really don't get the visceral reaction... unless I hit a bit too close to home.
29 posted on 03/19/2007 1:59:31 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: nowandlater
Mere pretenders dilly dally while the future President waits in the wings...


30 posted on 03/19/2007 1:59:58 PM PDT by montag813
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To: nowandlater

I see Fred Thompson who is not running, has registered on the poll, and is at least 2% ahead of Tommy, who is running......


31 posted on 03/19/2007 2:01:23 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: nowandlater

I'd rather be told to shut up by McClam than to give up my guns for JulieAnnie. My weapons have a significant voice of their own even when I'm silent.


32 posted on 03/19/2007 2:01:32 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: nowandlater

2%
Fred Thompson [volunteered] "volunteered"?


33 posted on 03/19/2007 2:01:50 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: FreedomNeocon
though I really wish Santorum would get the VP call for one of 'em)

Santorum lost all my respect and support when he chose the single-bullet baby-killer over Pat Toomey.

34 posted on 03/19/2007 2:02:16 PM PDT by montag813
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To: nowandlater

Any poll this far out is STUPID.
I don't know why people waste the time and bandwidth even posting them. Wake me up a year from now.


35 posted on 03/19/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: traderrob6

The only thing I can figure that means is that people said Fred Thompson even though he wasn't one of the names given.


36 posted on 03/19/2007 2:04:44 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: AlexW

I disagree. While polls are stupid for regular joes and the final election results, they have a very significant impact on fundraising!!!


37 posted on 03/19/2007 2:06:57 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: montag813
Santorum lost all my respect and support when he chose the single-bullet baby-killer over Pat Toomey.

Pardon me, but I feel thats a bit short-sighted.

True, Santorum was on the WRONG side of that decision. But I would ask if you ever listened to Rick speak on conservatives or conservatism. I, personally, have never heard an elected republican (well used to be elected..heh) speak so passionately or convincingly.

I mean when I listen to Rick, it feels like I'm listening to someone who really gets it and isn't afraid to speak out. It feel like I'm listening to RUSH or Mark Levin.

Though I do agree Santorum wussed out and backed Toomey, it was wrong. I just look at the rest of the clowns we have in our party and what we forgive them for (Specter, McStain, Voinovich, etc) and I can't see holding Santorum down for that one mistake. (especially when he is so good at communicating, which is EXACTLY what most others in our party lack right now -- thats why I think he'd be an asset as a VP, instead of Pres)

Who do you like for VP? Newt perhaps might be nice... an idea guy for lots of much needed mechanics, but without having to put all the baggage out front?

38 posted on 03/19/2007 2:09:47 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: montag813

How 'bout photoshop it?


39 posted on 03/19/2007 2:09:57 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater

If Gingrich announces he's in, he'll leap right to the front.


40 posted on 03/19/2007 2:11:04 PM PDT by wny
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To: FreedomNeocon; areafiftyone; Jim Robinson
Most of the posters putting these items up items have been posting here much longer than you or I, so I find it highly unlikely that they're working for a candidate. I don't think anyone's accused Areafiftyone of being on Mayor Giuliani's payroll for posting all the good things Rudy has done.

However, when judging who is best for this country, the facts need to be known. I think the cross-dressing pictures are overdone. But knowing where Mayor Giuliani stands on the 2nd Amendment, Roe vs. Wade, and McCain Feingold is pretty relevant to the core cause of this website:

Statement by the Founder of Free Republic

"As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty."

We'll worry about Hillary when we get there.

41 posted on 03/19/2007 2:11:31 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: FreedomNeocon
But my biggest concern is the scorched earth, making candidates unacceptable, instead of making yours more attractive... is going to lead to a 3rd party candidate

Personally I have been very open about the fact that if a liberal/liar like Rudy/Romney get nominated I will vote for some third option. I don't vote for liberals regardless of party, and Romney is such a fraud it's disgusting.

If you don't like it -- well, I don't care. You're welcome to vote for Hillary if you so desire -- that's your business. But I will continue to promote my view and publicize the good, bad, and ugly about each candidate.

42 posted on 03/19/2007 2:11:50 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: wny

"If Gingrich announces he's in, he'll leap right to the front."

I was about to say the same thing about Thompson.


43 posted on 03/19/2007 2:13:44 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

I'll second that motion


44 posted on 03/19/2007 2:16:54 PM PDT by hkp123
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To: JohnnyZ

Rudy and Romney aren't even close to being in the same ballpark. Your calculation that they are is misguided and simply wrong.


45 posted on 03/19/2007 2:21:47 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: nowandlater

Great post and I agree! : )


46 posted on 03/19/2007 2:25:49 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
"But my biggest concern is the scorched earth, making candidates unacceptable, instead of making yours more attractive... is going to lead to a 3rd party candidate and President Hillary Clinton. And I see the same people doing it time and time again."

Didn't you read any of the threads that JimRob posted on the Rudy topic? It was pretty clear that he doesn't want Rudy leading the party.

This is the primary season and its the time for presenting the facts about the candidates record and position on the issues.
47 posted on 03/19/2007 2:29:39 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: TAdams8591
Rudy and Romney aren't even close to being in the same ballpark.

Rudy is a liberal. Romney is a fraud.

Your calculation that they are is misguided and simply wrong.

READING COMPREHENSION.

48 posted on 03/19/2007 2:30:37 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Parley Baer

You mean the same people of Michigan who went Clinton, Clinton, Gore, and Kerry?


49 posted on 03/19/2007 2:30:47 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: JohnnyZ

Romney is NOT a fraud. I suggest you read up on him.


50 posted on 03/19/2007 2:37:16 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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