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Mitt’s Commie phrase sparks rage
The Boston Herald ^ | 03/20/2007 | Dave Wedge

Posted on 03/19/2007 10:28:03 PM PDT by JohnSheppard

Cubans in Miami are steaming mad at former Gov. Mitt Romney for shooting his mouth off in stumbling Spanish, mispronouncing names and erroneously associating a notorious Fidel Castro-spewed Communist catch phrase with freedom fighters.

Politicians in South Florida have lashed out at the former Massachusetts governor and 2008 presidential hopeful for describing the socialist saying “Patria o muerte, venceremos” as “inspiring” and for claimingthe phrase was swiped from liberty-seeking Cubans by leftist admirers of Castro.

The phrase, which means “Fatherland or death, we shall overcome,” was bellowed as a political speech sign-off by the dictator for decades.

At another point in the speech to the Miami-Dade Republican Party, Romney bungled the names of prominent Cuban GOP politicians, referring to Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio as “Mario.”

Romney also garnered criticism for his hard-line stance on immigration and ending the talk with the phrase “Libertad, Libertad, Libertad,” a revolutionary saying made famous in the gangster movie “Scarface,” which many Cubans feel plays on cultural stereotypes.

But it was the former Bay State governor’s use of an infamous Fidel Castro line that sparked the most controversy.

“Hugo Chavez has tried to steal an inspiring phrase - Patria o muerte, venceremos,” Romney said. “It does not belong to him. It belongs to a free Cuba.”

But scholars and prominent Cubans contend the saying has always been a Communist rallying cry and that it represents the very essence of Fidel Castro’s oppressive regime.

“It means communism. It means Fidel Castro,” said Florida state Rep. Rene Garcia, a Republican who was at the March 9 speech. “It’s a Communist catch phrase.”



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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blunder; castro; communist; cuba; cult; drinksbloodofbabies; electionpresident; elections; florida; mitt; mittromney; moron; panderbear; romney; slickwillard
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1 posted on 03/19/2007 10:28:06 PM PDT by JohnSheppard
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To: JohnSheppard

Now that the Boston Hearld has come down on Mitt, guess he`s toast.


2 posted on 03/19/2007 10:35:16 PM PDT by neverhillorat (HILLORAT WINS, WE ALL LOSE)
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To: JohnSheppard

I like Mitt, but he'd better get Jeb's help with South Florida.


3 posted on 03/19/2007 10:35:38 PM PDT by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: JohnSheppard

Stoopid white people.


4 posted on 03/19/2007 10:37:02 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: JohnSheppard

He butchered the language and his speech. This is SO disrespectful of your audience. His spin people are going to be spinning for WEEKS trying to clear this up. He is not that bright.


5 posted on 03/19/2007 10:39:07 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: Terpfen

Mitt is jebs guy. I know it's hard to imagine surviving a massive blunder such as a misspeak , but this to shall pass. Although , it takes the heat off of bush for a few hours.


6 posted on 03/19/2007 10:40:10 PM PDT by fantom
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To: fantom

"A" mispeak? Did he even READ his speech before he tried to deliver it, badly?


7 posted on 03/19/2007 10:40:59 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: JohnSheppard

Don't portray yourself as somebody your not...oopsie we are talking about politicians here.


8 posted on 03/19/2007 10:42:53 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: JohnSheppard

Doofusio...


9 posted on 03/19/2007 10:44:36 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: JohnSheppard; AmericanMade1776; bcbuster; Bluestateredman; CaptainK; cgk; Choose Ye This Day; ...

(((PING)))


10 posted on 03/19/2007 10:51:53 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: JohnSheppard
It shows that the locals are ignorant also.  I never get upset when someone botches English and English isn't their first language.  Heck, I don't even get upset when President Bush blows it and it's his first language.

When it comes to Presidential candidates, all I'm interested in is whether or not he can drive the big red, white and blue bus.  I simply have fun watching the pandering.  It's more fun than a George Carlin concert.

False indignation is for illiterates.

11 posted on 03/19/2007 10:52:13 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.)
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To: JohnSheppard

LOL! You guys are parroting the opinion of the reporter. The quotes from the Cubans are actually very kind. Putting this story in the news, helps Romney because it will sear in the Cubans mind that he is the only Republican who cares about addressing the issue.

LOL! The reporters fall for it again!


12 posted on 03/19/2007 10:53:54 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: JohnSheppard

I wouldn't put ANY credence in anything the Boston Herald publishes. ... And I'm not a Romney fan!


13 posted on 03/19/2007 10:54:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: HawaiianGecko
But scholars and prominent Cubans contend the saying has always been a Communist rallying cry and that it represents the very essence of Fidel Castro’s oppressive regime.

These people are hardly ignorant. Mispronouncing words in a foreign language is forgiveable. But delivering a speech that was disrespectful and ignorant your audience, is beyond stupidity.

14 posted on 03/19/2007 10:55:34 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: JohnSheppard

Well, at least he didn't say he was a donut.


15 posted on 03/19/2007 10:58:56 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Not that big of a story.

If it was so serious, then it would have been within a day of the speech. Not two weeks after the fact!!! LOL!

The reporters are just slow onto Romney's plan and this story only helps Mitt because he is the only to address them even if it was awkward.


16 posted on 03/19/2007 11:00:58 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: JohnSheppard

This is NOT the way to endear himself to the Cubans in Florida, that's for sure.


17 posted on 03/19/2007 11:06:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: razorback-bert
Well, at least he didn't say he was a donut.

See, that one worked for JFK, because it was endearing, not to mention hilarious ... to the audience, that is, as you can hear in a recording of the event. The huge outburst of laughter instantly transformed into cheers.

Now suppose he had stood up there and said, "Heil Hitler."

18 posted on 03/19/2007 11:14:47 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: nowandlater

The story is found in other Florida paper articles, published earlier. This version is from the Boston Herald. I don't really care WHEN an article is published, because there are a myriad of sources on the net.


19 posted on 03/19/2007 11:14:55 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: nowandlater

Every candidate is going to put his/her foot in it. The real test is how the candidate handles a blunder. This will be a good opportunity to see how Mitt does.


20 posted on 03/19/2007 11:16:02 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: FairOpinion

It is a non story. It is two weeks old. If you think it was a big deal like 'Heil Hitler', then it wouldn't have taken two weeks for it to show up in the papers!


21 posted on 03/19/2007 11:16:56 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: nowandlater

Clearly it was unintentional, but it was very stupid.

Somobody in his staff did't do his/her homework.


22 posted on 03/19/2007 11:18:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Stop the Dems. Work for Republican Victory in 2008.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Not really. The first complaint was this morning from an editorial in the Miami Herald.

Like I said, it was two weeks ago and NOW we are hearing this! LOL!


23 posted on 03/19/2007 11:20:47 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: JohnSheppard

Maybe he should take Spanish pronunciation lessons from Senor Jorge Arbusto, El Presidente.


24 posted on 03/19/2007 11:22:00 PM PDT by cookcounty (Never ever hurt their feelings! .....Please remember to add the "-ick" to "Democrat-")
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To: nowandlater

I found it covered on March 10th.


25 posted on 03/19/2007 11:24:56 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: JohnSheppard

Well, at least he's not speaking with a fake Southern accent...


26 posted on 03/19/2007 11:26:56 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals."-www.iowahwk.typepad.com)
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To: MHGinTN
I wouldn't put ANY credence in anything the Boston Herald publishes

I think you mean the Boston Globe. The Herald is the conservative paper.

27 posted on 03/19/2007 11:29:00 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

Mitt’s Commie phrase sparks rage
By Dave Wedge
Boston Herald Chief Enterprise Reporter

Tuesday, March 20, 2007

Cubans in Miami are steaming mad at former Gov. Mitt Romney for shooting his mouth off in stumbling Spanish, mispronouncing names and erroneously associating a notorious Fidel Castro-spewed Communist catch phrase with freedom fighters.

etc...


28 posted on 03/19/2007 11:31:09 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
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To: M. Thatcher

I'm not convinced of that ... there is too much askew in Massatwoshits. re, Fwanks is so twisted, Kerry seems sane and Kennedy appears to be only a drunk.


29 posted on 03/19/2007 11:31:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

The Boston Globe is moonbat left. The Herald is The Washington Times of Massachusetts.


30 posted on 03/19/2007 11:33:16 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: HawaiianGecko
It shows that the locals are ignorant also.

I don't know about that. I think it shows that the Boston Herald has a political agenda, and the resources to manufacture news stories. The MSM destroyed Dan Quayle over a potato, they have been calling G W all sorts of stupid because he has a penchant for mispronouncing words, and now Romney. They are really building up our candidates, then pointing out their weaknesses to keep it even, and they will ignore Duncan Hunter completely. The MSM really sucks.

31 posted on 03/19/2007 11:33:39 PM PDT by webheart
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To: nowandlater

"Putting this story in the news, helps Romney because it will sear in the Cubans mind that he is the only Republican who cares about addressing the issue."

Now thats some serious spin!


32 posted on 03/19/2007 11:41:31 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: JohnSheppard
He explained the context of the remarks quite well and it was a damn good speech. If you watch the video of the speech he was applauded very vigorously by the Cuban-Americans at the dinner.

http://mittromney.com/News/Speeches/Miami-Dade_Lincoln_Day

"I said at the outset that the threat in Latin America is unprecedented. I say that because the Castros have a second tyrant and he has great wealth, from oil. We must stand just as firm against caudillos like Hugo Chavez, tutored by Fidel Castro. Chavez and Castro are brothers in blood, intent on personal gratification at the expense of their people. Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro have stolen the phrase – 'Patria o muerte, venceremos.' This phrase should not be used by dictators, but by liberators.

"There are two spheres of influence in the Western Hemisphere. One is dark, bellicose and spreads misery by denying people basic freedoms; the other shines like a powerful light, is peaceful and wants only for its people to live in liberty and prosper.

"It is time for the United States to adopt a Latin American strategy that will strengthen human rights and freedom, that will advance our own interests, and that will weaken the threat of the Castros and Chavez. I propose seven elements in this strategy.

"First, we must continue to isolate Castro with economic and diplomatic sanctions.

"Second, we must help our friends. Foreign aid and foreign investments must be focused on those who stand alongside us.

"Third, we must once again act to inform public opinion in Latin America. We should use our world renowned media and communications savvy to spread the truth about American freedom, and Castro tyranny.

"Fourth, we must improve our economic ties. The President has negotiated vital free trade agreements with Latin American neighbors like Peru, Columbia and Panama, but some Democrats in Congress are so beholden to their labor bosses that they have refused to confirm them. It is time to put the interests of humanity and of the nation first.

"Fifth, we must rebuild relationships of respect and trust and friendship. Our Latin American friends must always feel welcome in the White House. And congratulations are in order to the President for his travels this week to Latin America.

"Sixth, as we finally and belatedly secure the border and solve the problem of illegal immigration, we must reaffirm our appreciation of legal immigration. We are a nation of immigrants and refugees, and they have contributed a great deal to our culture of hard work, entrepreneurship, faith in God, love of family, and respect for human life.

"And finally, we must never again ignore Latin America. It is a great deal easier to prevent a crisis than to end one. Since the end of the Cold War and since the terror of 9/11, America has become so preoccupied with other regions that we have forgotten our friends in our own hemisphere. And we have ignored the potential threat. Consider with concern the visit here from Ahmadinejad, the aspiring nuclear terrorist and genocidist.

"As we face these challenges, there is one more principle we must remember. America must remain the world's military superpower.

"It is the strength of our military, the strength of our families, the strength of the American people, the strength of the many Americans who trace their roots to the soil of Cuba and Latin America, it is all this strength that gives me such confidence that someday, soon, the people of Cuba will be free. I look forward to the day when the stain of Castro is rinsed from the Cuban soil, when the Cuban people can stand with their American brothers and sisters and say these words - Libertad, Libertad, Libertad."
33 posted on 03/19/2007 11:41:37 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: webheart
The MSM destroyed Dan Quayle over a potato ...

You mean a potatoe !

34 posted on 03/19/2007 11:42:18 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SmoothTalker

It is true. The account by the Boston Herald is misleading. Watch the speech and you will see he was well recieved. LOL!


35 posted on 03/19/2007 11:42:55 PM PDT by nowandlater
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To: M. Thatcher

Case in point ...


36 posted on 03/19/2007 11:49:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"....He is not that bright...."

Compared with whom???

37 posted on 03/20/2007 12:17:52 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Da mihi virtutem contra hostes tuos.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Not to worry, his new speechwriter is Peggy Noonan!

Perhaps this next speech will be done in an Irish brogue!

38 posted on 03/20/2007 3:38:28 AM PDT by OldFriend ( TOM DeLAY FAN)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Complaning about mispronunciation is SOOOOOO FRENCH ~ so when did the Florida Cuban community come to be populated entirely by cheese eating surrender monkeys.


39 posted on 03/20/2007 4:37:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dr_lew

It would not have been so bad if he was not in a class of fifth graders who caught him. That is why the story was so big!


40 posted on 03/20/2007 4:50:07 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
He is not that bright.

Well, MA voted for this guy. That should say it all :)

41 posted on 03/20/2007 4:54:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

And when JFK butchered the German language in Berlin, the people loved it. Of course every one loves a Berliner pastry.


42 posted on 03/20/2007 5:00:12 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: FairOpinion
"This is NOT the way to endear himself to the Cubans in Florida, that's for sure."

I don't care about Romney one way or the other right now but the guy was reaching out to them. All politicians will always make fools of themselves when stepping out of their element and into unfamiliar territory. It's what they do, it's the nature of the beast. All politicians are phoney and we elect them to office because we don't want the job ourselves. Cubans can't relate to white America, white America can't relate to Cubans, ditto Mexicans, blacks, Asians, etc... Welcome to America. We are all different and nobody can walk in anybody else's shoes. Yeah, yeah, I get that.

The way I see it, if the Cubans are "offended", they can always get on their rafts and go back.

I'm tired of people being "offended". S*%# happens. Get over it.

Of course, as always, this is JMHO.

43 posted on 03/20/2007 5:15:10 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: JohnSheppard

The Marco/Mario thing could have been a typographical error on his sheet. I'll have to watch the speech tonight, but maybe that was in the preliminary introductions -- the part where the candidate has to acknowledge all the elected officials that show up.

They don't get to practice that, because nobody knows who is showing up, so they get that written down at the last minute, and they have to read it or recite it from memory. It's easy to see how someone could scribble down "marco" in a way that looked like "mario".

As to the other phrase, Mitt didn't say it was a liberation phrase. He specifically said it was the Dictator's phrase, but he argued that it better represented freedom than communism. He might be right, he might be wrong, but it was a compelling suggestion, and I do like how he's willing to make statements like this without regard to whether others agree with him.

I wonder if Representative Rene Garcia is backing a different candidate, and therefore had a purpose in attacking Romney?


44 posted on 03/20/2007 6:56:04 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Was that picture in the Boson Herald? I can't believe they would have photo-shopped Romney into a Castro picture....


45 posted on 03/20/2007 6:56:54 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: neverhillorat

I'm sorry. He may have mispronounced things, I don't know. But this is the most ham-fisted hit piece I've ever read.


46 posted on 03/20/2007 6:58:31 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

I'm sorry, I don't buy the characterization that's in this story at all. I have to do some recon on this author.


47 posted on 03/20/2007 7:01:36 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: nowandlater

Thank you. I thought so. I'm not the biggest Mitt apologist, but I can't stand when our guys get trashed for no reason.


48 posted on 03/20/2007 7:04:10 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Okay. You win the day for the best remark! LOL


49 posted on 03/20/2007 7:04:56 AM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

President Bush, as a candidate in 2000, called a radio talk show host in Pittsburgh whose name was Fred, "Frank" throughout an interview.

Fred didn't correct him at the time and, of course, made (relatively gentle) fun of him afterwards.

Flubbing a guy's name is typical for candidates, they get a list that they read from a sheet and they see so many. And you'll notice they aren't stupid enough to do any "my good friend" nonsense.


50 posted on 03/20/2007 7:06:59 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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