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Giuliani Top Choice Among Both Moderate and Conservative Republicans (New Gallup Poll)
Gallup ^ | 3/20/07

Posted on 03/20/2007 8:21:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: MACVSOG68; areafiftyone
Yet these are the same posters who tell us all that unless we get their social right candidate that they will refuse to vote Republican. Now, I ask, who is a Republican in name only?

I have to agree wholeheartedly with you on that statement.  I've argued that a RINO is an impossibility, as a Republican is anyone that registers with the GOP, Alan Derschowictz could be a registered Republican and a liberal whack at the same time. If they used the term CINO, conservative in name only, then it would make a bit of sense as it is an ideology, not an organization.

Still we all need to keep in mind that Free Republic is a conservative forum, not an arm of the Republican National Committee.  It's mission statement says something about promoting conservatives, not necessarily Republicans.

A great deal of people I read in here are really libertarians, some actually appear to be liberal (or American liberal which is more Britney Spears than Karl Marx), some who claim to be conservatives come across as charter members of the Charles Manson Party. Quite a few mistake conservatism with Christianity and Judaism with liberals. (although I can't square that with Menachem Begin, Ariel Sharon or the Likud party)...  Heck, even Sam Colt was a Democrat. (go figure)

 

61 posted on 03/20/2007 9:23:31 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.)
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To: bushfamfan

I've looked at a lot of of the Hunter videos on youtube. Hunter, with his permanent scowl and slovenly appearance, isn't the guy the make the sale to the American people.

Communicating ideas is part of reality. We need a candidate that can make the sell about the need to stop Revolutionary Islamists before they spike nukes over our side the net. Bush is not a good communicator, and people at home and abroad are really confused about America's motives. This has left the floor open for progressive demagogues, and saying "I'm against stemcell research and Michael Schiavo" isn't going to turn things around.

If I was only voting for people based on how closely they agreed with myself, hell, I would just vote for myself! But you have to look at what is in the best interests of the Republic over the long term.


62 posted on 03/20/2007 9:24:54 AM PDT by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: Durus

I believe the McCain numbers. I believe that people will vote for him behind the curtin. Why would anyone want to face the powerful thugs who criticize the awesome McCain supporters when they can just vote for him quietly.


63 posted on 03/20/2007 9:26:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: TommyDale

Thanks...I needed that!


64 posted on 03/20/2007 9:28:11 AM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: areafiftyone; Victoria Delsoul

So much for the base being alienated by Rudy McRomney - combined they represent a powerful majority of the GOP base.

It appears that the pockets of negativity about these three is limited to impotent members of public internet forums.


65 posted on 03/20/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HawaiianGecko
If they used the term CINO, conservative in name only, then it would make a bit of sense as it is an ideology, not an organization.
Very true... I may have to reconsider my terminology.
66 posted on 03/20/2007 9:34:18 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: JHBowden

In all actuality, Fred Thompson isn't exactly smiley face! And I do recommend people check out Duncan Hunter because no one exudes more leadership than that fine man and he can just cut right to a point and speak common sense that strikes to the issue. You're trying to win people over to the 'actor', I'm trying to get people to check out Duncan Hunter. I think more people that actually take a look at Hunter will come to the opposite view of your's. I think that's your bias showing with 'electability'. I'll tell you, outside the GOP fawning over the 'actor', the only people who would really know who he is are people who watch Law and Order. He isn't so big a name or as assured 'electabillity' as some would like to claim. He will eventually face the military question. The GOP is going to have to have a solid messenger on Iraq and the WOT and Hunter is the MOST qualified and MOST capable in that area. And I prefer a man more in the mold of John Wayne with actual military experience and the strength of character and leadership like Hunter.


67 posted on 03/20/2007 9:34:29 AM PDT by bushfamfan (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRES. IN 2008)
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To: bushfamfan

"I can't wait until the debates."
Me either. This fake New York conservative is going to tank like the Titanic.

"Mr. Mayor, Your thoughts on, say--the tremedous number of guns in this country that kill children, babies actually, every day."

"Well, Chris, let me--I just want to say this: (sternly) I remain firm but flexible--fair while firm. And elastic, open-minded, while remaining conservative. And yet I'm not as stupid as they are! (Big grin)
Why, on 9/11 (pause for effect) I remember standing in the ruins of the . . . ya da ya da ya da ya da"

Demohack Moderator: "And on the subject of equal rights for ALL Americans? Mr. America's Mayor?"

"Well, Chris, let me, I just want to say this: . . . (rinse, repeat)"


68 posted on 03/20/2007 9:35:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (Championing conservative causes in America, and having fun doing it.)
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To: veronica; JHBowden

You shop at Saks with Veronica?


69 posted on 03/20/2007 9:38:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: napscoordinator

>>>>awesome McCain supporters

So you support the documents McCain had shredded on our POWs?


70 posted on 03/20/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MeanWestTexan; TommyDale; Calpernia; indylindy; MEGoody; stockstrader; politicalwit; GrandEagle
An even more significant poll was the one taken right after Andrew Giuliani outed his father as a miserable no-show Dad, with an overbearing, shrewish third wife who orders Rudy not to see his children.

An astounding 88% of Americans said they had a problem with Rudy not attending his son's graduation.

The pollsters also should have asked if they supported a Republican candidate who went after the Liberal Party endorsement in his mayoral bid.

Rudy pursued the NY Liberal Party endorsement b/c Rudy said his friends and family were too embarassed to vote for a Republican.

Mayor Rudy thanked New York Liberal Party's for its endorsement and support, by appointing Liberal Party Chairwoman Fran Reiter as Deputy Mayor. Rudy also gave to top city jobs to Russell Harding and his brother, sons of Giuliani's close friend and campaign adviser Raymond Harding (then-Liberal Party Chairman).

Russell Harding (son of Liberal Party Chair Ray Harding) was Rudy's City Housing Director but had to leave office upon being arrested by federal law enforcement and charged with conspiracy, fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, receiving child pornography, and possesing child pornography.

Russell Harding (son of Liberal Party Chair Ray Harding) was using his official credit card to pay for personal items including a car, 'Sopranos' DVDs, and a helicopter tour of the Grand Canyon.

Rudy's City Housing Director, Russell Harding (son of Liberal Party chair Ray Harding), enjoyed kiddie porn on city computers, and took trips on the city's dime with his gay friends (this is all documented). Russell later pleaded guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 5 years in prison and forced to repay $367,000 he embezzled from the New York City.

Not one to soil his liberal bona fides, Rudy's only public statement on Russell's government fraud was that he "felt sorry for the Harding family."

71 posted on 03/20/2007 9:40:43 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: areafiftyone

Well, I was polled by Quinnipiac last night and I identified myself as a conservative, and I named Rudy my preferred candidate among the announced Republicans, pending Fred Thompson.

So I guess I was lying?


72 posted on 03/20/2007 9:42:39 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: NucSubs

"I think it's clear that we who see Rudy for what he is have lost"

Don't give up the keyboard yet. This is digital warfare. They are using misinformation as a weapon. Liberals hoping we give up and join them. Rudy is not the solution he's part of the problem.


73 posted on 03/20/2007 9:43:20 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: Calpernia

What is Saks?


74 posted on 03/20/2007 9:43:31 AM PDT by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: areafiftyone

Who's talking about you?


75 posted on 03/20/2007 9:43:42 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Funny, rumors out that Rudy will run as VP with Fred on top of ticket.


76 posted on 03/20/2007 9:44:54 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Calpernia
Senator and POW survivor McCain was offered to leave the camp early but graciously declined because he wanted to ensure the other POW's were released too. He is probably the closest to Jesus Christ on Earth at least in regards to humbleness. Oh and before you think I am crazy because most jealous anti-Senator McCain guys are...we just had Code of Conduct training last week for the Navy and Senator McCain was discussed in the powerpoint presentation about his handling as a POW and it was extremely honorable!!! He is just one of those people who should be looked up to and not looked down upon because the people who look down on him have not been able to accomplish what he has. The entire Military is behind McCain and that is a pretty large voting block.
77 posted on 03/20/2007 9:45:35 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: areafiftyone
Free Republic has been out of touch with the American voting public since the 2006 elections.

There's always something for which to be grateful.

Cordially,

78 posted on 03/20/2007 9:45:49 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: All

Lefties are capable of being happy with moderately pro-life Democrats like Casey in Pennsylvania when the alternative is the bogeyman Rick Santorum.

Why can't conservatives be happy that a moderate conservative will beat Hillary and Osama Obama like drums?


79 posted on 03/20/2007 9:48:41 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: veronica; JHBowden
>>>What is Saks?

Have Veronica ping you when she goes shopping for sale items there

She may be a fun shopping buddy, since she thinks like you. She doesn't want a schlepper in a JCPenney suit either.

80 posted on 03/20/2007 9:51:12 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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