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NEW JERSEY COURT RECOGNIZES SECOND AMENDMENT AND HOLDS THAT IT TRUMPS GUN FORFEITURE LAW
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| 3/19/07
| Evan Nappen, Attorney at Law
Posted on 03/20/2007 9:41:22 AM PDT by Revtwo
A New Jersey Superior Court has recognized the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and held that a citizens Constitutional Right to Keep and Bear Arms cannot be involuntarily waived under a New Jersey firearms forfeiture law.
The recognition of Second Amendment rights in New Jersey is long overdue, said attorney Evan F. Nappen, whose law firm (including Richard V. Gilbert, Esq. and Louis P. Nappen, Esq.) represented appellant Dennis W. Peterson in the Warren County case. In this appeal, the Second Amendment was applied to New Jersey via the Constitutional doctrine of fundamental fairness, overcoming a significant legal hurdle needed for the Federal Bill of Rights to apply to the State.
This decision coincides with the recent Parker v. District of Columbia case, in which the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia struck down a decades-old handgun ban in Washington, D.C. on the ground that it violates the Second Amendment.
The legal significance of the Second Amendment is finally being recognized by American courts, Nappen continued, and this New Jersey case is part of a growing trend in American jurisprudence.
(Excerpt) Read more at evannappen.com ...
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; newjersey; rkba; secondamendment
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posted on
03/20/2007 9:41:26 AM PDT
by
Revtwo
To: Revtwo
Thank goodness. My NRA $$ is paying off.
2
posted on
03/20/2007 9:43:42 AM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: Revtwo; Joe Brower
3
posted on
03/20/2007 9:44:33 AM PDT
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Revtwo
Wow, two courts in about a week actually recognizing the Constitution. Maybe there's hope after all.
4
posted on
03/20/2007 9:44:42 AM PDT
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Revtwo
WOW, a New Jersey judge up-holds 2nd Amendment. What's next?
5
posted on
03/20/2007 9:46:10 AM PDT
by
geo40xyz
(Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT)
To: Revtwo; bang_list
added the banglist keyword so the list can find it.
6
posted on
03/20/2007 9:47:11 AM PDT
by
Petruchio
(Single, Available, Easy)
To: pissant
Thank goodness. My NRA $$ is paying off. But not in the D.C. case, which the N.R.A. would have nothing to do with.
7
posted on
03/20/2007 9:47:12 AM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Graybeard58
I think that's a mischaracterization. They have always supported lifting the onerous gun control laws in DC.
8
posted on
03/20/2007 9:48:41 AM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: geo40xyz
"What's next?"
More socialist wailing and scheming.
9
posted on
03/20/2007 9:49:07 AM PDT
by
labette
(To hit the ball and touch 'em all. A moment in the sun.)
To: Revtwo
Cool! A double-barreled defeat for the gun-banning nuts on the Left.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
10
posted on
03/20/2007 9:51:17 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: pissant
11
posted on
03/20/2007 9:51:30 AM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Revtwo
The scope is very small, but the precedent is huge. The guy voluntarily relinquished firearms he had had on him during a domestic dispute. Four years later, NJ wrote a law denying the right to own a gun to anyone who had previously had a gun siezed or voluntarily relinquished a gun.
The immediate crisis is sort of an ex post facto: a man was denied his rights for an action he committed before the law depriving of his rights was written. Hence, the tiny scope: The NJ law isn't necessarily unconstitutional, since NJ may have a valid reason for its deprivation of rights. But what is huge is the courts recogniztion that the NJ deprives people of an actual right: to bear arms.
12
posted on
03/20/2007 9:52:01 AM PDT
by
dangus
To: Revtwo
The courts are where the real power lies in determining the direction of the country.
Whether a particular Republican President is as pristinely conservative as would be desired is not nearly as important as who they get confirmed to the USSC.
The fact that the USSC is decidedly more conservative than when Dubya entered office sends a message to lower courts, and we are seeing their response to that message in these recent decisions.
Dubya has disappointed me in many ways, but Presidents are in power for eight years at most.
Judges are in power for life.
13
posted on
03/20/2007 9:52:01 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
To: Revtwo
UN-F'ING BELIEVABLE!!!!! In NJ of all places!!!!
Suddenly I feel faint.
14
posted on
03/20/2007 9:52:22 AM PDT
by
tcostell
(MOLON LABE)
To: labette
More socialist wailing and scheming.
OOOOH! Good! This should be fun. I'll bring the chips. Who's got the cheese tray? LOL
15
posted on
03/20/2007 9:53:21 AM PDT
by
trimom
To: gc4nra
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posted on
03/20/2007 9:53:46 AM PDT
by
Blue Collar Republican
(I am the rightful father of Anna Nicole's money... er, I mean baby.)
To: Revtwo
Mr. Nappen is a treasure for us NJ residents. If not for his hard work and dilligence, we'd be disarmed state-wide by now. Given the current state of our elected officials, it's amazing this ruling has been rendered. Thank you Evan!
17
posted on
03/20/2007 9:54:24 AM PDT
by
paulcissa
(Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
To: Revtwo
First, Washington DC and now New Jersy.
[Has a massive dose of sanity been released on our courts????]
Libs will go into meltdown.
18
posted on
03/20/2007 9:54:30 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Graybeard58
The NRA wants to get the most important gun rights issues before the SCOTUS after one of the other libs croaks. It is a strategy, but they certainly have lobbied forever to kill the DC gun control regime.
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posted on
03/20/2007 9:55:22 AM PDT
by
pissant
(http://www.gohunter08.com/)
To: Revtwo
Didn't a Federal court already make in similar ruling within the past few weeks?
If so, wouldn't this ruling merely be symbolic?
20
posted on
03/20/2007 9:55:23 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
To: geo40xyz
To: trimom
I predict "The Brady Center to Promote Genocide" will be the first to put forth a reply.
22
posted on
03/20/2007 9:56:31 AM PDT
by
labette
(To hit the ball and touch 'em all. A moment in the sun.)
To: dangus
No stae may pass an ex-post facto law or bill of attainder. I think its incontrovertible they cannot pass an absolute ban on private gun ownership without running afoul of the Second Amendment.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
23
posted on
03/20/2007 9:57:12 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Revtwo
WOW! Another individual right ruling along with striking down expo facto enforcement. Lovely.
24
posted on
03/20/2007 9:57:59 AM PDT
by
beltfed308
(Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
To: pissant; Graybeard58
I don't care if it's Tiny Tim getting these decisions, I say we keep up the momentum and hammer the antis into the dust.
To: Revtwo
Hillary's reaction........
26
posted on
03/20/2007 9:59:23 AM PDT
by
cowboyway
(My heroes have always been Cowboys)
To: Coleus; Cagey; Clemenza
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:00:23 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: Graybeard58
The plantiff Levy would have nothing to do with the NRA.
The NRA had tried to get the Congress to repeal the DC council's civl rights ban.
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:00:28 AM PDT
by
padre35
(I am from the "let's stop eating our own" wing of the Republican Party)
To: Revtwo
A good-news BTT. I am currently involved in a vigorous discussion over the 2nd Amendment with a fellow whose considered opinion is that the Constitution says whatever the courts say it says. "Living document" garbage. We'll see if that tune changes any...
To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Al Gore visits hell twice in two weeks! Hey Al Gore, go back to hell!
/Gore effect
30
posted on
03/20/2007 10:00:52 AM PDT
by
M203M4
(Ignorance of basic math underlies economic ignorance and helps fuel socialism.)
To: Revtwo
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:01:45 AM PDT
by
rellimpank
(-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: TomGuy; Revtwo
First, Washington DC and now New Jersey.
[Has a massive dose of sanity been released on our courts????]
Libs will go into meltdown
Unless liberals suddenly start arming themselves in preparation for a wider ranging political conflict...?
Rush Limbaugh has said that liberals out of power are comical, but *armed* liberals in OR out of power?
Could it be 1917 all over again but this time in America?
Just food for thought.
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:01:54 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
To: padre35
--
The NRA had tried to get the Congress to repeal the DC council's civl rights ban.--
--got a link for that?
33
posted on
03/20/2007 10:04:37 AM PDT
by
rellimpank
(-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: Calpernia
34
posted on
03/20/2007 10:05:02 AM PDT
by
paulcissa
(Only YOU can prevent liberalism.)
To: TomGuy
I wonder if these court decisions are along the lines of a "Roe v. Wade in reverse" -- where courts make decisions (correct ones, in these recent cases) simply to let legislators walk away without enacting legislation themselves.
The New Jersey court has rendered a decision that few -- if any -- New Jersey legislators would have the b@lls to support in public.
35
posted on
03/20/2007 10:05:08 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
To: Revtwo
Moonbats everywhere crying in corners.
36
posted on
03/20/2007 10:06:10 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
("These colours don't run, from cold bloody war." - Steve Harris, Bruce Dickinson)
To: paulcissa
OMG, there is a ray of hope outside my window!
I'm taking a picture before it's gone.
37
posted on
03/20/2007 10:07:37 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: labette
I predict "The Brady Center to Promote Genocide" will be the first to put forth a reply.
OK, that's sure to be fun to watch. This is better than March Madness!
38
posted on
03/20/2007 10:08:37 AM PDT
by
trimom
To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Whether a particular Republican President is as pristinely conservative as would be desired is not nearly as important as who they get confirmed to the USSC."
Ding ding ding... we have a winner.
Most sensible thing I've heard all day
39
posted on
03/20/2007 10:10:31 AM PDT
by
RedStateRocker
(Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
To: Revtwo
Well slap me silly and call me Willy! This happened in the People's Republic of Joisey?!!
40
posted on
03/20/2007 10:11:52 AM PDT
by
4yearlurker
("Nothing is true,and everything is permitted"--7 th Satanic vow. Sounds like Liberalism!)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
I wonder how much influence the recent Parker v. District of Columbia case had on this ruling.
In any case, certainly a decision that is as welcome as it is surprising.
41
posted on
03/20/2007 10:12:40 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have two speeds: "graze" and "stampede".)
To: padre35; pissant
The organization (N.R.A.) has fought this suit every step of the way. The question is, why?
The NRA has said it's because they don't think the current makeup of the U.S. Supreme Court is right for a Second Amendment case.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803404/posts
And yet:
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Antonin Scalia and David H. Souter said in a 1998 dissent that "bearing arms" goes beyond a collective right in the context of a well-ordered militia. Combined with the votes of recent conservative appointees, the high court could sweep away draconian laws that don't even allow the possession of a handgun to protect yourself and your family in your home.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803399/posts
There may never be a better time for the Suopremes to hear a 2A case than now. The makeup of the court could possibly get worse. Even Buzzy Ginsburgh seems to be thinking right on this one.
42
posted on
03/20/2007 10:14:00 AM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: geo40xyz
WOW, a New Jersey judge up-holds 2nd Amendment. What's next?Damn, I work in PA five miles from Trenton. I'm gonna have to watch for stray flying pigs all week now.
43
posted on
03/20/2007 10:14:30 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Duncan Hunter 08)
To: geo40xyz
WOW, a New Jersey judge up-holds 2nd Amendment. What's next?
I don't know but I'm too busy to worry about it now. All my pigs flew away!
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:18:10 AM PDT
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: pissant
While it is sad this was even necessary.....
HOORAY FOR 2A
45
posted on
03/20/2007 10:19:52 AM PDT
by
Feiny
(Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
To: derllak; JB in Whitefish; Cindy
Looks like the Courts are finally beginning to recognize the FACT that the US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land.
Has to be making the gun grabbing maggots in this country livid.
46
posted on
03/20/2007 10:20:14 AM PDT
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Duncan Hunter in 2008)
To: dangus
Yes, the scope is very small and I agree the precedent may be huge if this can lead to all ex post facto laws being struck down. It sounds like here that the court stopped short of saying such laws are unconstitutional, but only that the law in this case would specifically violate the 2A.
This was really a "no brainer" for any court. I notice the prosecutor is appealing, which is probably a good thing in the long run.
To: Revtwo
Did I get to bizarro world and not realize it? Suddenly the courts are upholding gun rights after 70 years of beating them down?
What's next? The nation recommending that all citizens be armed again?
To: Leatherneck_MT
The Dems have been lukewarm on gun control for a while, I predict not much of a reaction. they've had their heads handed to them several times since the "GREAT BRADY BILL" was passed and they've lost the stomach for it. They say just enough to keep the base on the reservation.
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:25:21 AM PDT
by
ontap
To: dirtboy
Picture from the window of my NJ home:




A gaggle of pigs, I tell you!
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posted on
03/20/2007 10:26:46 AM PDT
by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
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