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Oregon Biology Teacher Fired Over Bible References
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, March 20, 2007

Posted on 03/20/2007 2:02:43 PM PDT by Diago

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To: Paperdoll

More than that: read any issue of the NEA Journal. It will likely have at leaast one article dealing with "children at risk"; separation of Church and state, or federal aid for education, or just money in general. Years ago I was a union rep and I had a debate in the teachers lounge with one of the directors. My point was that NEA needed to come to terms with the private schools. He said, more or less, Never. They are paranoid about private education.

141 posted on 03/21/2007 4:04:30 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Diago; EveningStar

This was posted last night. There appears to
be some confusion among FReepers about the
teacher's motive. I think he is a hero.

142 posted on 03/21/2007 4:06:18 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Diago; EveningStar

Oops! Just noticed it is the same thread. My bad.

143 posted on 03/21/2007 4:07:38 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Continental Soldier

Evolution is an agenda contrary to science.

144 posted on 03/21/2007 4:10:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Diago

Not a reprimand, not a counseling, but a firing. You think he'd killed someone.

145 posted on 03/21/2007 4:36:50 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: RobbyS
Creationism is a theological concept.

Creationism is a Biblical truth unlike evolution which is just a theory and really a lie.

146 posted on 03/21/2007 4:56:56 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

147 posted on 03/21/2007 5:04:06 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: RobbyS

>My point was that NEA needed to come to terms with the private schools. He said, more or less, never. They are paranoid about private education.<

Yes, private ANYTHING is not on their agenda. And I wish the Fed would get out of education, too. No Child Left Behind has been taken too far. Even children at risk must take it, which is outrageously ridiculous. The tension on all students is enormous, and unnecessary. It has been said that many teachers teach only for tests so the norm will rise at their schools, by which the student's general education suffers. Local control over education is more than needed to make the schools stop "dumbing down"; and to encourage healthy thinking, individualism and creativity.

150 posted on 03/21/2007 6:15:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: editor-surveyor
Evolution is an agenda contrary to science.

Only to crackpots.

151 posted on 03/21/2007 6:36:55 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: phillyfanatic
As a teacher of some 45 years, I have mangaged to always skip the PC malarky and call a spade a spade.

And if you pulled the same crap as he did, I would expect you to be fired as well.

152 posted on 03/21/2007 6:41:00 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: taxesareforever

Theological concepts can be true or they can be false. That God created the universe out of nothing is true,

153 posted on 03/21/2007 8:47:07 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Paperdoll

It is not the Act that has caused the dumbing down of education. Yeaching to the test may in fact lead to students learning more than they otherwise would. After all,students who face the SAT are cramming for that test, which seems to count more than their GPA. I agree that one can not simply legislate learning. because most lawyers haven';t a clue about how or what to teach youngsters under the age of 20, because they have almost no professional contact with them. On the other hand, hose who actually run the schools, the school administrators and school board members also have little day to day contact with students, and are under constant pressure to please a whole raft of pressure groups. This includes teacher unions, which hard to believe are led by educators who no longer have much contact with students and who are more interested in pushing a political agenda than in improving education. But it also includes those parents who want their children to have the best school record possible with the least effort possible. Very many parents think of high school as a time when youngsters ought to enjoy themselves before they face the rigors of college and then work. This seems to be part of the culture. In Japan students work their asses off to achieve high scores on the equivalent of the SAT. But then they go off to college where they are expected to take a breather before they go to work for high pressure bosses.

154 posted on 03/21/2007 9:02:11 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

The Bible is not a book of theological concepts. It is the only book that contains absolute truth.

155 posted on 03/21/2007 10:42:13 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Paperdoll

156 posted on 03/22/2007 4:46:54 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Paperdoll

Humanist Manifesto I

The Manifesto is a product of many minds. It was designed to represent a developing point of view, not a new creed. The individuals whose signatures appear would, had they been writing individual statements, have stated the propositions in differing terms. The importance of the document is that more than thirty men have come to general agreement on matters of final concern and that these men are undoubtedly representative of a large number who are forging a new philosophy out of the materials of the modern world.

— Raymond B. Bragg (1933)

The time has come for widespread recognition of the radical changes in religious beliefs throughout the modern world. The time is past for mere revision of traditional attitudes. Science and economic change have disrupted the old beliefs. Religions the world over are under the necessity of coming to terms with new conditions created by a vastly increased knowledge and experience. In every field of human activity, the vital movement is now in the direction of a candid and explicit humanism. In order that religious humanism may be better understood we, the undersigned, desire to make certain affirmations which we believe the facts of our contemporary life demonstrate.

There is great danger of a final, and we believe fatal, identification of the word religion with doctrines and methods which have lost their significance and which are powerless to solve the problem of human living in the Twentieth Century. Religions have always been means for realizing the highest values of life. Their end has been accomplished through the interpretation of the total environing situation (theology or world view), the sense of values resulting therefrom (goal or ideal), and the technique (cult), established for realizing the satisfactory life. A change in any of these factors results in alteration of the outward forms of religion. This fact explains the changefulness of religions through the centuries. But through all changes religion itself remains constant in its quest for abiding values, an inseparable feature of human life.

Today man's larger understanding of the universe, his scientific achievements, and deeper appreciation of brotherhood, have created a situation which requires a new statement of the means and purposes of religion. Such a vital, fearless, and frank religion capable of furnishing adequate social goals and personal satisfactions may appear to many people as a complete break with the past. While this age does owe a vast debt to the traditional religions, it is none the less obvious that any religion that can hope to be a synthesizing and dynamic force for today must be shaped for the needs of this age. To establish such a religion is a major necessity of the present. It is a responsibility which rests upon this generation. We therefore affirm the following:

FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.

SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.

THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.

FOURTH: Humanism recognizes that man's religious culture and civilization, as clearly depicted by anthropology and history, are the product of a gradual development due to his interaction with his natural environment and with his social heritage. The individual born into a particular culture is largely molded by that culture.

FIFTH: Humanism asserts that the nature of the universe depicted by modern science makes unacceptable any supernatural or cosmic guarantees of human values. Obviously humanism does not deny the possibility of realities as yet undiscovered, but it does insist that the way to determine the existence and value of any and all realities is by means of intelligent inquiry and by the assessment of their relations to human needs. Religion must formulate its hopes and plans in the light of the scientific spirit and method.

SIXTH: We are convinced that the time has passed for theism, deism, modernism, and the several varieties of "new thought".

SEVENTH: Religion consists of those actions, purposes, and experiences which are humanly significant. Nothing human is alien to the religious. It includes labor, art, science, philosophy, love, friendship, recreation — all that is in its degree expressive of intelligently satisfying human living. The distinction between the sacred and the secular can no longer be maintained.

EIGHTH: Religious Humanism considers the complete realization of human personality to be the end of man's life and seeks its development and fulfillment in the here and now. This is the explanation of the humanist's social passion.

NINTH: In the place of the old attitudes involved in worship and prayer the humanist finds his religious emotions expressed in a heightened sense of personal life and in a cooperative effort to promote social well-being.

TENTH: It follows that there will be no uniquely religious emotions and attitudes of the kind hitherto associated with belief in the supernatural.

ELEVENTH: Man will learn to face the crises of life in terms of his knowledge of their naturalness and probability. Reasonable and manly attitudes will be fostered by education and supported by custom. We assume that humanism will take the path of social and mental hygiene and discourage sentimental and unreal hopes and wishful thinking.

TWELFTH: Believing that religion must work increasingly for joy in living, religious humanists aim to foster the creative in man and to encourage achievements that add to the satisfactions of life.

THIRTEENTH: Religious humanism maintains that all associations and institutions exist for the fulfillment of human life. The intelligent evaluation, transformation, control, and direction of such associations and institutions with a view to the enhancement of human life is the purpose and program of humanism. Certainly religious institutions, their ritualistic forms, ecclesiastical methods, and communal activities must be reconstituted as rapidly as experience allows, in order to function effectively in the modern world.

FOURTEENTH: The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible. The goal of humanism is a free and universal society in which people voluntarily and intelligently cooperate for the common good. Humanists demand a shared life in a shared world.

FIFTEENTH AND LAST: We assert that humanism will: (a) affirm life rather than deny it; (b) seek to elicit the possibilities of life, not flee from them; and (c) endeavor to establish the conditions of a satisfactory life for all, not merely for the few. By this positive morale and intention humanism will be guided, and from this perspective and alignment the techniques and efforts of humanism will flow.

So stand the theses of religious humanism. Though we consider the religious forms and ideas of our fathers no longer adequate, the quest for the good life is still the central task for mankind. Man is at last becoming aware that he alone is responsible for the realization of the world of his dreams, that he has within himself the power for its achievement. He must set intelligence and will to the task.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: There were 34 signers of this document, including Anton J. Carlson, John Dewey, John H. Dietrich, R. Lester Mondale, Charles Francis Potter, Curtis W. Reese, and Edwin H. Wilson.]

Copyright © 1973 by the American Humanist Association

Permission to reproduce this material in toto in electronic or printout form is hereby granted free of charge by the copyright holder. Free permission to reprint the essay is granted to nonprofit Humanist and Freethought publications.

157 posted on 03/22/2007 4:52:31 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: L98Fiero
LOL! Kook. No business teaching school.

But... do you forgive him?

158 posted on 03/22/2007 5:02:04 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Diago
By a vote of three to one, with one member abstaining because of a lack of background information...

(The other three didn't care that there wasn't 'background information'?)

"I feel that he departed from the accepted curriculum and exercised poor judgment on his source material in particular...," chairman Gould said.
"I think Mr. Helphinstine wasn't teaching good science. ... I think his performance was not just a little bit over the line. I think it was a severe contradiction of what we trust teachers to do in the classroom," said board member Jeff Smith.

159 posted on 03/22/2007 5:06:00 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Gumlegs
But be prepared to defend equally evil private schools.

:"Ya pays yer money and takes yer chances!"

160 posted on 03/22/2007 5:06:56 AM PDT by Elsie
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