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Muslims offer to help 'John Does' sued by imams[U.S. Airways Passengers]
The Washington Times ^ | 21 March 2007 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 03/21/2007 2:20:39 AM PDT by FLOutdoorsman

Lawyers and a Muslim group say they will defend at no cost airline passengers caught up in a lawsuit between a group of imams and U.S. Airways if the passengers are named as "John Does" and sued for reporting suspicious behavior that got the Muslim clerics booted from a November flight.

The six imams are suing the airline, Minneapolis-St. Paul Metropolitan Airports Commission, and the unnamed "John Does" to be named later, for discrimination, saying they were removed from the flight for praying in the airport.

Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, a Phoenix-area physician and director of American Islamic Forum for Democracy -- a group founded in 2003 to promote moderate Muslim ideas through its Web site (www.aifdemocracy.org) -- told The Washington Times his group will raise money for legal fees for passengers if they are sued by the imams.

"It's so important that America know there are Muslims who understand who the victims are in air travel," said Dr. Jasser. "But I hope it doesn't get to that point because the backlash will be even greater when Americans see Islamists trying to punish innocent passengers reporting fears."

The lawsuit specifically cites two passengers who stared at the men as they prayed, then made a cell phone call that the imams say went to U.S. Airways to complain about the prayer.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aifd; aifdemocracy; bullying; flyingimams; imams; intimidation; islam; jasser; johndoes; moderatemuslims; moderates; muslims; passengers; security; threats; usairways; wot
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1 posted on 03/21/2007 2:20:43 AM PDT by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I hope none of the passengers sued is Jewish...


2 posted on 03/21/2007 2:24:29 AM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

This is good to hear.


3 posted on 03/21/2007 2:30:10 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Dallas59

I hope no one is stupid enough to take them up on the offer.


4 posted on 03/21/2007 2:32:16 AM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I use to live in Phoenix, and Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser is probably the most outspoken muslim against extremists.

He has berated his fellow muslims over their silence again and again.
5 posted on 03/21/2007 2:36:26 AM PDT by Lost Dutchman (I thought WWI started because some bloke named Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry.)
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To: Lost Dutchman

Well then the 'good doctor' can PAY FOR THEIR DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. I wouldnt blame any of these defendants for not trusting this snake. Just because you say it's a harmless garter snake, doesnt mean it's not a snake.


6 posted on 03/21/2007 2:47:22 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
This is, if it is as it appears, a wonderful move! Finally a group of Muslims who aren't certifiably wacko or too afraid of the wackos to do anything.

Crusader Bumper Sticker

7 posted on 03/21/2007 2:50:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Lipstick on a pig.


8 posted on 03/21/2007 3:01:28 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: Samurai_Jack
Well then the 'good doctor' can PAY FOR THEIR DEFENSE ATTORNEYS.

Isn't that precisely what the article says he is offering to do?

9 posted on 03/21/2007 3:24:42 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Anyone trying to put a chink in the extremists' armor is welcome.


10 posted on 03/21/2007 3:27:33 AM PDT by syriacus (Truman as president: Korean War; 30,000 US deaths; full wartime censorship; military draft)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Good for Dr. Jasser and his group!


11 posted on 03/21/2007 3:37:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Dahoser

"I hope no one is stupid enough to take them up on the offer."

My first reaction as well. But then I thought that any money we could take out of their hands would be a plus. They couldn't use it for other propaganda purposes.


12 posted on 03/21/2007 3:40:16 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: John Valentine

"say they will defend at no cost"

Indicates they are going to perform a service and not pay for one. Only later in the article do they imply paying for legal fees. That indicates to me that they're going to pay for the legal fees if they use muslim resources.

I wouldnt trust them anyway. Nothin personal.


13 posted on 03/21/2007 3:46:43 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I dont understand why this cae will even come to court.

These Imams buttheads were staging this whole thing to cause a disruption,they got what they wanted. They should have been arrested and given jail time.


14 posted on 03/21/2007 4:07:33 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

The jihadists stated years ago that they would use our own laws against us.

What they don't understand is that it cuts both ways.

Pushing really hard creates a very bad atmosphere, especially if one uses intimidation and threats.


15 posted on 03/21/2007 4:09:50 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We are so far past the Rubicon, there's no way back)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Check out their web site. I think it's very interesting. These guys look good. Maybe I'm a sucker, but they look good.


16 posted on 03/21/2007 4:10:26 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Tactical shotty, Marlin 1894c, S&W 686P, Sig 226 & 239, Beretta 92fs & 8357, Glock 22, & attitude!)
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To: sgtbono2002
I dont understand why this cae will even come to court.

Because the imams and their lawyers undoubtedly went forum/venue shopping before they did this, and they picked a good one.

17 posted on 03/21/2007 4:11:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
I am pleasantly surprised!

This is the kind of attitude we've been looking for in Muslims.
18 posted on 03/21/2007 4:13:29 AM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: mewzilla; Peach; Mo1
Because the imams and their lawyers undoubtedly went forum/venue shopping before they did this, and they picked a good one.

Indeed.

Had you seen about this, ping?

19 posted on 03/21/2007 4:22:20 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am PRO-VICTORY!!)
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To: sgtbono2002
I dont understand why this cae will even come to court

If the FAA and the gov't had done their jobs it might not have.

These guys should have been charged with interfering with flight operations, interfering with a flight crew, endangerment, yelling fire in a crowded room.......anything possible to grind there lives to a halt, bankrupt them and destroy their reputations.

If it had been done it would have slowed this type of behavior down and sent a message, instead:

Crickets

They fear the p.c. crowd. If this had been 6 cocktail laden white guys they would have lowered the collective boom and ruined them.

20 posted on 03/21/2007 4:22:41 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Praying? These so-called "imams" were overheard loudly praising Osama bin Laden, they were making nasty comments about the United States and our military, etc. and then they wonder why they were singled out for "special" treatment?


21 posted on 03/21/2007 4:23:52 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My Number One Goal in Life is to Leave a Bigger Carbon Foot Print Than Al Gore)
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To: prairiebreeze

I'm not going to be using that airport again for a while. That's for sure.


22 posted on 03/21/2007 4:24:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; FLOutdoorsman
THE FAKING IMAMS: Police Report, Passenger Reveals That Flying Imams Were Up to No Good
23 posted on 03/21/2007 4:25:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: R. Scott

Trust, but verify!


24 posted on 03/21/2007 5:02:10 AM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger??? What's an Able Danger?????)
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To: Kakaze

I believe Mewzilla hit the nail on the head. They went shopping in a place where they knew they would get what they want.


25 posted on 03/21/2007 5:11:38 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

I wouldn't trust a muzzie bearing gifts. Call me a cynic.


26 posted on 03/21/2007 5:13:34 AM PDT by LIConFem (Fred Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86)
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To: Roccus

Yep - it could be just a publicity ploy, but I can hope.


27 posted on 03/21/2007 5:15:28 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: prairiebreeze

That's interesting. I'd only heard that the imans intended to sue, not that Muslims would help the passengers.


28 posted on 03/21/2007 5:30:12 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: airborne

Agreed, but 5 years in coming is more than a little behind the curve.


29 posted on 03/21/2007 5:36:18 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

So we've asked for something like this for 5 years.

Granted, it's way overdue. But here it is now.

What do you want us to do? Say, "Sorry. You're too late."?

Let's wait and see how it turns out, and give them a chance to prove themselves here.


30 posted on 03/21/2007 5:46:33 AM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Dr. Jasser is one of the good guys. If you consider for a moment the personal risk he is taking by having the website, by appearing regularly on TV to show the Americans who happen to be Muslim side, and the time and effort he has put into this work, I'd say he's giving far more than just money to the fight against jihad.

If you visit the website, you will probably be as surprised and heartened as I was, and he really needs the help in getting his message out.
31 posted on 03/21/2007 6:12:04 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Dahoser

"I hope no one is stupid enough to take them up on the offer."

What do you mean by that?
This is Dr. Jasser's group offering to help. If you're unfamiliar with him, please research his articles posted on FR under keyword Jasser.


32 posted on 03/21/2007 7:19:18 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Samurai_Jack; driftdiver

You ought to do a little research on Dr. Jasser before making derogatory statements about him.
For years he has been doing exactly what you and others have said muslims should be doing - he condemns CAIR and the wahhabis and other extreme muslim groups, he's a staunch supporter of the military (he's ex-Navy), he's pro war on terrorism, and he's trying to rally more moderate muslims to speak out against radical muslims.


33 posted on 03/21/2007 7:28:45 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Valin

pong


34 posted on 03/21/2007 8:05:58 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: Cindy; Kakaze; Natty Bumppo@frontier.net; BusterBear

"Flyin"Imams" ping...

FReepmail me if you'd like to be on this ping list...


35 posted on 03/21/2007 8:22:21 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: Peach

None of the local (MN) news outlets are currently covering this new development.

Surprised? ME?


36 posted on 03/21/2007 8:51:06 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Fight Crime. Shoot Back.)
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To: nuconvert

"You ought to do a little research on Dr. Jasser before making derogatory statements about him. "

Wasn't attacking him specifically. I have seen little to no action from 'peaceful' muslims to condemn the radical muslims. I firmly believe this is a continuation of the war thats been taking place since the Jews and Christian denied Muhammed prophet status about 700 AD.

In some respects muslims like Dr. Jasser are more dangerous as they lead the West into complacency while his brethren in Islam seek to destroy every single non-believer.


37 posted on 03/21/2007 2:26:20 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: nuconvert

"You ought to do a little research on Dr. Jasser before making derogatory statements about him. "


Screw you and him too...
It's not my problem that he adheres to a violent bloodcult bent on global domination. This is a new perception for me. I was forced to come to the conclusion that these people are deadly. And worse they are liars.

It wouldnt surprise me a bit that this wasnt some kind of goodcop badcop these idiots are playing. Putting these people through a gauntlet to indimidate the other passengers into silence. Im for shoving all of em off the cliff.


38 posted on 03/21/2007 2:28:10 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
"we need to let people who would intimidate us know it is not going to stand."

This is good....

39 posted on 03/21/2007 2:35:25 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Dahoser

I live in Phoenix and this is a REALLY good guy. He's done some serious work on America's side.


40 posted on 03/21/2007 2:43:45 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: Samurai_Jack

oy


41 posted on 03/21/2007 2:49:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: driftdiver

"I have seen little to no action from 'peaceful' muslims to condemn the radical muslims"

That's what Dr Jasser has been doing for yrs.

"In some respects muslims like Dr. Jasser are more dangerous..."

If that's the way you feel, then there's really no point in any muslims doing much to condemn the radicals.


42 posted on 03/21/2007 2:55:53 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: McGavin999; nuconvert

My initial reaction was that it was a squeeze play with radical Muslims on one side and so-called moderates on the other. Thanks for kindly pointing out that Jasser is one of the good guys.


43 posted on 03/21/2007 2:56:00 PM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: Mad Dawg

bttt


44 posted on 03/21/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Peach
I'd only heard that the imans intended to sue, not that Muslims would help the passengers.

I'll tend to believe the latter when I see it.

As of last night Powerline hadn't responded about being asked to marshal MN lawyers to fight against and help defend against these bogus law suits. Powerline acknowleged being mentioned in the WashTimes article, but that was it as of last night.

45 posted on 03/21/2007 3:05:40 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am PRO-VICTORY!!)
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To: nuconvert

"If that's the way you feel, then there's really no point in any muslims doing much to condemn the radicals."

Proof is in the pudding. Getting mad at me won't help. The radicals have taken over what is apparently your faith. The outspoken peaceful are very few and far between. Your quick movement "there's really no point in any muslims doing much to condemn the radicals" only proves my point. If muslims were truly peace minded they wouldn't care what I said.


46 posted on 03/21/2007 3:30:28 PM PDT by driftdiver
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In case you mised it the first time....



Cheers,

knewshound
47 posted on 03/21/2007 3:48:39 PM PDT by knews_hound (Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
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To: Dahoser
You are welcome. I understand people thinking all Muslims are like the terrorists, and those who don't directly act at least support them. The problem is, those who stand up are never heard because our media makes SURE they are never heard.

This guy has put himself in considerable danger by speaking out, he's done it here for years.

48 posted on 03/21/2007 5:04:23 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: driftdiver

Not mad at you, just pointing out the ridiculousness of your statements and attitude.

You complain that you haven't seen muslims condemning radicals, and then when they do, you say they're dangerous.
So, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't in your eyes.

btw - I'm not muslim, but interesting that you'd jump to that conclusion


49 posted on 03/21/2007 5:45:17 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: nuconvert

"You complain that you haven't seen muslims condemning radicals, and then when they do, you say they're dangerous. "

Not complaining, observing. Big difference.

"So, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't in your eyes. "

IMO a muslim is damned no matter what but thats really a different issue. If muslims want the Christians to believe they are peaceful they should agressively condemn the radicals. Perhaps this guys is doing it in his town but I've never heard of him. CAIR sure is active across the country. Thousands of mosques are being built around the world by the same people who teach 4 yr olds that Jews and non-muslims are aptes.


50 posted on 03/21/2007 6:29:47 PM PDT by driftdiver
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