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After First 93, Did Clinton Fire 3 Or 30 More Attorneys?
Sweetness & Light ^ | March 21, 2007 | N/A

Posted on 03/21/2007 10:40:48 AM PDT by Sam Hill

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To: Sam Hill
Keep fightin' the good fight, Sam. This case certainly seems to have brought all of the usual "suspects" (plus some new ones) out of the woodwork.

You're a better man than I!

61 posted on 03/21/2007 1:19:25 PM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: voltaires_zit
Got any theories involving media coverups on WHY the Executive Office for United States Attorneys hasn't provided the Congressional Research Service with EXACTLY the same data you're asking for despite being asked more than 2 months ago?

What supposed information is that?
62 posted on 03/21/2007 1:21:09 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: safeasthebanks
There's definitely a tag team at work. When one goes down, another picks up the banner.

For instance:

Did Clinton Also Fire Prosecutors? (BARF ALERT) ^

  Posted by voltaires_zit to Sam Hill
On News/Activism ^ 03/13/2007 10:34:16 PM EDT · 35 of 59 ^

> There has been a lot of turn-over during Bush's term. But
> Bush didn't fire all of the attorneys in one fell swoop,
> as Clinton did. But over the six years there have been a
> lot of new US attorneys. But there are still some Clinton
> holdovers, too.

If you're intent on defending the President's actions, it is **imperative** that you do so with correct information.

All but 1 of the Clinton era US attorneys were gone by the summer of 2001, 6 months after Bush took office. He started getting rid of them in March, 2 months after taking office.

The last 1 was gone in 2002. There are no holdovers.


63 posted on 03/21/2007 1:21:28 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

She seemed pretty friendly with President Clinton. If she was raped why would she be in the same room....questionable situation at best. I always wondered why it did not get legs well maybe that could be why. She socialized with him.


64 posted on 03/21/2007 1:23:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: voltaires_zit

""In order to determine how many U.S. attorneys had served less than four years
with tenure uninterrupted by a change in presidential administration, CRS began by
contacting the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA), which serves
as the liaison between U.S. attorneys and the Department of Justice. CRS first
contacted the EOUSA January 24, 2007, to seek records on the appointment and
termination dates for U.S. attorneys. As of February 20, 2007, EOUSA had not
provided the requested data. CRS also contacted the Office of Personnel
Management (OPM), which maintains the Central Personnel Data File (CPDF). CRS
spoke with a representative in OPM’s Congressional Liaison Office and was told that
the database could not produce the information needed. The OPM representative
referred CRS to the Department of Justice."

Er, I guess like ContemptOfCourt your reading skills are somewhat lacking. (Do you reside in DC?)

The CRS asked the wrong people.

They were finally directed to the DoJ.

There is no evidence that the DoJ is refusing to cooperate with them.

You troll.


65 posted on 03/21/2007 1:24:55 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

> The CRS asked the wrong people.

They were only the wrong people in the sense that they didn't **want** to give the information.

Either of the referenced agencies could have put together the data from their records, presumably without much difficulty.

> They were finally directed to the DoJ.

So it seems we both certainly agree that the DoJ HAS the information you claim is being hidden by the media?


66 posted on 03/21/2007 1:30:47 PM PDT by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: napscoordinator

"She seemed pretty friendly with President Clinton. If she was raped why would she be in the same room....questionable situation at best. I always wondered why it did not get legs well maybe that could be why. She socialized with him."

That photo was taken when Clinton was still the attorney general and running for Governor.

He stopped by one of JB's nursing homes to campaign. The alleged incident occurred later.


67 posted on 03/21/2007 1:31:43 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: voltaires_zit

"So it seems we both certainly agree that the DoJ HAS the information you claim is being hidden by the media?"

The media could ask these questions at their various news conferences or via other means.

My point is that they haven't. (Just as they avoided any mention of Clinton's firing of 92 of the 93 prosecutors when he took office.)

Instead, "reporters" for the Washington Post just put out unsubstantiated claims, such as that quoted in the article.

You are trolling. It should be clear to all by now.


68 posted on 03/21/2007 1:35:40 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill

> The media could ask these questions at their various news
> conferences or via other means.

It seems the DoJ COULD just respond to a two month old request from the CRS and clear it right up, too. That doesn't seem to interest you as much, though?

> (Just as they avoided any mention of Clinton's firing of
> 92 of the 93 prosecutors when he took office.)

Or of Reagan's similar action, for that matter:

"The Reagan administration, for example, acted in its own interests much the same as the Clinton administration had in its when it sought the prompt removal of all U.S. Attorneys from the previous administration, notwithstanding the fact that most of the persons whose nominations were to be submitted had not been selected and many interim persons would be required."
http://judiciary.senate.gov/testimony.cfm?id=2516&wit_id=6062

(That's George HW's AG, btw)

Maybe because it isn't relevant?

> You are trolling.

Truly, I am trying to understand what's going on.

Sadly, that isn't even _part_ of the goal of some posters.


69 posted on 03/21/2007 1:44:24 PM PDT by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: Sam Hill

mojo, you have been around FR long enough...having been banned twice..that you should know that you should ping another poster when talking about them.


70 posted on 03/21/2007 1:45:29 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: voltaires_zit

"It seems the DoJ COULD just respond to a two month old request from the CRS and clear it right up, too. That doesn't seem to interest you as much, though?"

Repeating a lie doesn't make it any more true.

You have yet to produce evidence that the CRS requested this information of the DoJ (qua DoJ) four months ago.

And it is still irrelevant to my point, which involves the media reporting things for which there is no substantiation -- and ignoring things are well-known facts, such as Clinton's actions.

But yours is a paradigmatic troll tactic. Congratulations for picking it up so quickly in your brief tenure here. (LOL)


71 posted on 03/21/2007 1:49:40 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: All

"four months ago" should be "two months ago."


72 posted on 03/21/2007 1:52:25 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: voltaires_zit

"That's George HW's AG, btw"

Another lie.

Gerson was Bill Clinton's acting attorney general at the start of his first term.


73 posted on 03/21/2007 1:56:06 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill; voltaires_zit
As best I can tell, the DOJ was responsive to the extent that it could easily be to the CRS. Even Conyers admits that it had timely provided information for 1993-present. (See page 21 at the link. What it didn't do is provide pre-1993 information before the CRS report was issued. Information very well might not have been readily available in electronic form. When pressed by Conyers, the DOJ sent the list of U.S. Attorneys from 1789-1994 that I mentioned before.
74 posted on 03/21/2007 2:00:22 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: voltaires_zit

Inside the Justice Department and the U.S. Attorneys Controversy - washingtonpost.com

"It is customary for a President to replace U.S. Attorneys at the beginning of a term. Ronald Reagan replaced every sitting U.S. Attorney when he appointed his first Attorney General. President Clinton, acting through me as Acting Attorney General, did the same thing, even with few permanent candidates in mind."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/03/13/DI2007031300985.html

How telling that you would produce the very man who helped carry out Clinton's firings of 92 of 93 of the US Attorneys, as he plays semantic games to say that Reagan did the same thing. (And even go so far as to lie and say that he was GHW Bush's AG.)

Clinton (and Gerson) fired them in while they were still in their four year terms.

From all indications Reagan (and all prior Presidents) did not. Which is a big difference.

Especially when the media is trying stir up outrage at Bush signing off on the firing of 8 while they were in the middle of their terms -- which I don't even believe is true.

I believe most of them were past the end of their terms.

But nice try at trolling there.

(Does Soros pay good benefits?)


75 posted on 03/21/2007 2:01:31 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Clinton (and Gerson) fired them in while they were still in their four year terms.

Wait, mojo...I thought Reno fired them all.

Oh, that's right, Reno fired them, not Gerson....who was, by the way, appointed Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division during Bush the Elder's term, and was acting AG under clinton until March 12, 1993.

76 posted on 03/21/2007 2:04:51 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: Sam Hill

> You have yet to produce evidence that the CRS requested
> this information of the DoJ (qua DoJ) four months ago.

The request is outstanding for two months to various agencies of the Executive. When do _you_ suppose it will be answered?

Truthfully?

> And it is still irrelevant to my point, which involves
> the media reporting things for which there is no
> substantiation --

Kind of like your claim that Clinton asked for the resignations of 30 prosecutors, even though you _know_, or should know, that most of them left for other appointments or on their own, based on the history that IS in the CRS report?


77 posted on 03/21/2007 2:06:18 PM PDT by voltaires_zit (Government is the problem, not the answer.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

No, you're not a troll. No way.

LOL


78 posted on 03/21/2007 2:06:48 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Sam Hill
Gerson, who you insinuate is some Clinton lackey:

During the 1988 Presidential election, Mr. Gerson was a senior advisor to the campaign of George H.W. Bush on matters including debate preparation, comparative research and surrogate speaking on criminal justice, judicial, health policy and defense issues. He later was a Transition Team leader in the Office of the President-elect with regard to international banking agencies. He also served in the presidential transition of President George W. Bush.

Hardly a democrat operative, wouldn't you say?

79 posted on 03/21/2007 2:07:52 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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To: Sam Hill

mojo, I just enjoy demonstrating your complete lack of candor and integrity. You try to spin everything your way, then run away when proven wrong. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you yell "troll". You argue like a 6 year old. And you fail to address any questions posed to you.


80 posted on 03/21/2007 2:09:48 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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