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Change a Lightbulb, go to jail
NC Legislature ^ | 03/22/2007 | Harrison

Posted on 03/22/2007 9:47:39 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp

Pricey Harrison, a state legislator from Greensboro has proposed a law that we ban entirely the incandescent light bulb. The proposed bill is HR 838. Instapundit has some stuff on this, as well.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; donutwatch; egomaniacal; electricity; energy; greenieweenies; libertarianism; lightpollution; nannystate; northcarolina; policestate
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1 posted on 03/22/2007 9:47:40 AM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

The solution is right here in North Carolina!

http://www.cree.com/


2 posted on 03/22/2007 9:51:29 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

This law might not apply to everyone. If you know the right person, you might get a waiver. How, exactly, would you do that? Well, let me just say that it would be "Pricey".


3 posted on 03/22/2007 9:53:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

I'm stunned to discover Pricey is a Democrat, a former communications attorney. She's not much of a looker either.


4 posted on 03/22/2007 9:53:13 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

5 posted on 03/22/2007 9:53:36 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Oh yeah, we need CFL's, which contain mercury and can cost $2,000 to have professionally cleaned up if broken. Great!

Damn watermelons.


6 posted on 03/22/2007 9:54:10 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

7 posted on 03/22/2007 9:54:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

So Mr. Pricey Harrison has paid his 'carbon credits' to the ManBearPig Foundation and would be watt-neutral'? This is such a pile.


8 posted on 03/22/2007 9:55:01 AM PDT by BigFinn (AlGore: Carbonista)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
Oh I see, now our wonderful congress is bringing their greed and thievery right to our homes.
9 posted on 03/22/2007 9:55:19 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Just remember that in North Carolina it's okay to smoke, pollute the air, pollute the water and rip out forests. But don't you dare use an incandescent light bulb in the future!


10 posted on 03/22/2007 9:55:43 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

How many Liberals does it take to change a lightbulb?


11 posted on 03/22/2007 9:56:01 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Why haven't they banned the SUV yet?


12 posted on 03/22/2007 9:56:32 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
AN ACT to prohibit the sale of general service incandescent lamps in the state.

The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:

SECTION 1. The General Statutes are amended by adding a new Chapter to read:

"Chapter 113C.

"Energy Efficiency and Energy Conservation.

"§ 113C‑1. Sale of general purpose incandescent lamps prohibited.

(a) As used in this section, 'general service incandescent lamp' means a standard incandescent or halogen type lamp that is intended for general service applications and has all of the following:

(1) A medium screw base.

(2) A wattage rating no less than 25 watts and no greater than 150 watts.

(3) A shape that is defined as A‑15, A‑19, A‑21, A‑23, A‑25, PS‑25, PS‑30, BT‑14.5, BT‑15, CP‑19, TB‑19, CA‑22, or equivalent shape by the American National Standard Institute standard for electric lamps C78.20‑2003 approved 30 October 2003.

(4) A bulb finish of frosted, clear, or soft white type.

(b) No person shall sell or offer for sale a general purpose incandescent lamp in this State.

(c) This section does not apply to an appliance lamp, black light lamp, bug lamp, colored lamp, enhanced spectrum lamp, infrared lamp, left‑hand tread lamp, marine lamp, marine signal service lamp, mine service lamp, plant light, reflector lamp, rough service lamp, shatter resistant lamp, sign service lamp, silver bowl lamp, showcase lamp, three‑way lamp, traffic signal lamp, or vibration service or vibration resistant lamp."

SECTION 2. This act becomes effective on 1 January 2016 and applies to the sale of general purpose incandescent lamps on or after that date.

13 posted on 03/22/2007 9:57:00 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Who's getting the kickback on this one?


14 posted on 03/22/2007 9:58:26 AM PDT by RC2
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
I have invented a new < INSERT PRODUCT HERE >.

I want a law outlawing all < INSERT PRODUCT HERE >s except mine.

Which politician do I send the check to?

15 posted on 03/22/2007 9:58:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Well, I don't think it should be mandatory, but I've switched all but one light fixture to compact fluorescents and my energy bill has decreased by about 15%. FWIW.

Many people won't like the 20sec to 30sec warm-up time though.


16 posted on 03/22/2007 9:59:10 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

None. They eternally bitch about it being burnt out.


17 posted on 03/22/2007 10:00:04 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678447/posts
Light Pollution (If you think it's a joke, think again. The movement seeks to change laws)
Posted by sully777
On News/Activism 08/05/2006 2:32:45 PM PDT · 287 replies · 3,167+ views

Campaign for Dark Skies (CfDS.org) ^ | 8-5-06 | J. Appleton
Light Pollution At the beginning of the 21st century, humanity is losing a valuable and beautiful part of its heritage. For the first time in history, poorly designed and badly aimed lighting is denying vast numbers of humanity a view of the night sky. Urban sky glow now pollutes nearly all of Britain's night skies. As amateur astronomers we have a responsibility to guard our night time environment against light pollution.


18 posted on 03/22/2007 10:02:11 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

We are witnessing the genesis of the light bulb Nazis.


19 posted on 03/22/2007 10:04:53 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Calpernia
Campaign for Dark Skies

I'm surprised that group does not get more support. They are asking, in an offhand way, for people to quit wasting so much energy.
20 posted on 03/22/2007 10:07:18 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: theDentist
This section does not apply to an appliance lamp, black light lamp, bug lamp, colored lamp, enhanced spectrum lamp, infrared lamp, left‑hand tread lamp, marine lamp, marine signal service lamp, mine service lamp, plant light, reflector lamp, rough service lamp, shatter resistant lamp, sign service lamp, silver bowl lamp, showcase lamp, three‑way lamp, traffic signal lamp, or vibration service or vibration resistant lamp."

Looks like there are enough options here. For manufacturers, just add a bit of color to a standard bulb or classify more bulbs as shatter resistant or vibration resistant and you're all set.

21 posted on 03/22/2007 10:09:17 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Space shuttles, asthma inhalers, freedom in general - all have deteriorated due to environmentalism, so why not lighting too?


22 posted on 03/22/2007 10:12:03 AM PDT by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
Looks like a Dim bulb too...

Rep. Pricey Harrison

23 posted on 03/22/2007 10:12:07 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("There are no stupid questions. There are, however, many inquisitive idiots." - unknown)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Regarding the extremist who is propsing this idea...I'll just steal a great line from Deb Barone in "Everybody Loves Raymond" and here it is:

"I'm tired ...Call yourself an idiot!"


24 posted on 03/22/2007 10:12:40 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: AntiGuv
"Well, I don't think it should be mandatory, but I've switched all but one light fixture to compact fluorescent and my energy bill has decreased by about 15%. FWIW. "

I would change over more of mine ( primary reasons: longer life, long-term $ savings), but they cannot be used with electronic timers, or photoelectric switches, or dimmer switches. Most every light in/on my house is in one of those categories. Where I can use florescent bulbs, they were changed over years ago.

25 posted on 03/22/2007 10:14:16 AM PDT by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: P-40

>>>I'm surprised that group does not get more support. They are asking, in an offhand way, for people to quit wasting so much energy.


PETA asks for animal welfare, in an offhand way.


26 posted on 03/22/2007 10:15:48 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TommyDale

I have said the same thing. If they really cared, it would be LED lights not something containing so much mercury it can not be disposed of normally!


27 posted on 03/22/2007 10:18:30 AM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Ahhhhh, I am not going to ask the most obvious question.
OK I will. DOes she have a rainbow sticker on her Toyota Prius or on her Suburu Outback?


28 posted on 03/22/2007 10:19:56 AM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: P-40
I'm surprised that group does not get more support. They are asking, in an offhand way, for people to quit wasting so much energy.

I'm all for conservation, but not forced conservation. More people are converting to CFL's every day, as they become more affordable. They are not suitable for all applications though, and pushing a law outlawing incandescents will not be popular. That is certainly not the way to win friends and influence people.

29 posted on 03/22/2007 10:23:26 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Holicheese
Does she have a rainbow sticker on her Toyota Prius or on her Suburu Outback?

Not sure, but I think she might be seeking an endorsement deal from Snap-On Tools.

30 posted on 03/22/2007 10:24:16 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Calpernia
denying vast numbers of humanity a view of the night sky

They could always move to the PRK.


31 posted on 03/22/2007 10:25:31 AM PDT by ASA Vet (http://www.rinorepublic.com)
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To: Holicheese
Toyota Prius Pious


32 posted on 03/22/2007 10:25:54 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

THAT'S A MAN, BABY!!!!!


33 posted on 03/22/2007 10:26:42 AM PDT by Terpin (Missing: One very clever and insightful tagline. Reward for safe return!)
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To: ASA Vet

That's how I feel too.


34 posted on 03/22/2007 10:28:07 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Holicheese
DOes she have a rainbow sticker... on her Suburu Outback?

Not that I'd know, butt wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't tattoo'd, ummm, 'outback'...

35 posted on 03/22/2007 10:29:03 AM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("There are no stupid questions. There are, however, many inquisitive idiots." - unknown)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Why haven't they banned the SUV yet?

Because big ticket impulse purchases wont fit in a sedan.

36 posted on 03/22/2007 10:33:00 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (GOE - We came, we shouted them down, they cringed, mission accomplished.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
yeah I can see it now.. Just like the Assault weapons ban.. lol I can see it now..

PRE BAN Bulbs.. 

and of course... the ever popular...

POST BAN BULBS..


37 posted on 03/22/2007 10:35:07 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp
IIRC, Australia is in the process of phasing out incandescent bulbs.

Hope they like paying an arm and a leg for mercury disposal.

38 posted on 03/22/2007 10:37:04 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The anti-libertarian Neo-Ciceronian)
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To: Terpin

She does have a man-ish look about her.


39 posted on 03/22/2007 10:39:18 AM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

These legislators should give some consideration to problems associated with these compact fluorescent bulbs. While they use less electricity, they also contain small amounts of mercury. Consider the environmental impact and cost to consumers of eventually disposing of millions of these bulbs.


40 posted on 03/22/2007 10:44:47 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I'm all for conservation, but not forced conservation.

Same here. I'd rather show someone how they can keep the same lifestyle for less money and wait for them to make the right decision. CFLs are great, but you kind of have to know a bit about color temperature to get the effect you want. Of course when white LEDs get more affordable, they'll kick CFLs right off the market.
41 posted on 03/22/2007 10:46:14 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Looks a lot like my aunt who went lesbo after raising 5 kids to adulthood as catholics. Marin County, CA, as if I needed to say it.


42 posted on 03/22/2007 10:51:58 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Holicheese
DOes she have a rainbow sticker on her Toyota Prius or on her Suburu Outback?

No rainbow. Two stickers though: "Keeps Your Laws Off My Body" (even though procreation has never really been a possibility), and "Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot".

43 posted on 03/22/2007 11:00:03 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn

Don't forget, "Act Locally, Think Globally" and "My Other Car is the Starship Enterprise!" Ok I went a little nuts with the last one.


44 posted on 03/22/2007 11:09:24 AM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Hope they like paying an arm and a leg for mercury disposal.

The modern bulbs really aren't too bad in that regard, especially if they are near the end of their lifespan. I'd still be careful cleaning the mess up if I dropped one though. The ones we use here are in a plastic globe.
45 posted on 03/22/2007 11:10:26 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Notice that gro-lights and black lights are specifically exempted from the proposed law. Party on!


46 posted on 03/22/2007 11:34:41 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina ( GO TO HELL, DOOK!)
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To: AntiGuv
I've switched all but one light fixture to compact fluorescents

Our electric utility was offering a rebate on CFLs which reduced the coat of the 60watt equivalent bulb to $0.25 so I stocked up. I changed the bulbs in the garage door opener and found the bulbs would not start in cold weather. I changed the bulbs in the basement which has a motion sensor switch and was going through bulbs like salt pork thru a goose until I figured out the CFLs don't like solid state switches. I confirmed that with the lamps in the rooms that had X-10 remote control light switches. Average CFL life was about a month before failure and sometimes less. At times failure was preceded by an amusing "strobe" effect which tended to drive people out of the room.

What few bulbs I have left are installed in closet fixtures with a pull chain switch. My wife observed that who ever rated those 15watt bulbs equivalent to a 60watt incandescent in illumination was being "very optimistic", and I have to agree.

All in all, I would say that CFL are not ready for prime time.

Regards,
GtG

47 posted on 03/22/2007 11:41:25 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Imagine what her face would look like if someone made an improvement to the current incandescent bulbs that makes them more effect then the projected replacements


48 posted on 03/22/2007 11:41:56 AM PDT by Shots (Loose Lips sink ships.........)
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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Won't this be bringing Big Brother into your bedroom to see what kind of light bulbs you have in there?

Or were the Left's cries of "criminalizing behavior in the home" empty?


49 posted on 03/22/2007 11:42:05 AM PDT by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Good to see that traffic lights will be exempt. Kind of like how parents are required to (seat) belt their kids until age 8 but school buses have no seat belts.

One set of laws for the State, another for the private citizen.


50 posted on 03/22/2007 11:44:52 AM PDT by weegee (Carbon credits are nothing but the Global Warming movement's way of selling indugences.)
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