Posted on 03/22/2007 4:24:28 PM PDT by pissant
A top leader in the Southern Baptist Convention predicted that former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani would not succeed in winning the votes of Southern Baptists if he were to become the Republican nominee for president in 2008.
In brief comments after a chapel service at the North Carolina legislature on Wednesday, Richard Land, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, said former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich would likely fail for the same reason.
"Three is one marriage too many for them," said Land, referring to the 16.4 million members of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant group. Both Giuliani and Gingrich have been married three times.
A friend and adviser to President Bush, Land keeps close watch on politics as head of the commission, which studies moral, social, and religious liberty issues for the convention.
Though Southern Baptists are independent and do not necessarily follow his counsel, Land said three others who have already entered the presidential fray were more likely to win support among Southern Baptists. Those three are Sam Brownback, a Republican Senator from Kansas, Michael Huckabee, the former Republican governor of Arkansas, and Duncan Hunter, Republican Congressman from California.
As for Mitt Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, who is a Mormon, Land didn't rule him out. But, he said, the Republican hopeful has to convince the American people that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints won't dictate his policy. Land said he met with Romney recently and told him: "That's not a hill that can't be climbed. But you're going to have to climb it."
Finally, Land said he sensed that U.S. Senator John McCain was perceived as a wild card.
"People are uncomfortable with his predictability," said Land. "They tell me, 'We don't know how he's going to come down on the issues.'"
..there are always some Tony Campolo types who will support any leftist cause...
Campolo BTW was Clinton's "spiritual adviser" during the Impeachment...
I certainly am not one to hold one's past against them. Unless they're still living that way today. Or they just have plain bad ideas, just different bad ideas than they used to.
Neither have I. But neither have I ruled it out. That's quite a bit above my pay grade. Pretty soon we're all going to have eaten each other up and we'll end up with Hillary or some other horrible result. Is that what we want?
Is that a judgement?
I dunno. Every time someone screws up a big decision like that it ups the ante that they'd be bad at making other big decisions... they haven't learned from their mistakes.
Granted, he may only be bad at making relationship decisions. However relationships do play a big part in our day to day worklife too so it's not like that has no impact.
I still don't like some of his ideas, wonderfully as he may have handled 911.
Another factor working against an evangelical preferred GOP nominee is the broad dissatisfaction in the general electorate, and among many in the GOP, of the latest evangelical seal-of-approval nominee, Dubya.
He was (and is) their baby and he has fallen flat on his arse, unable to make a coherent statement, a cogent argument, or a persuasive point. He has fallen and can't get up. I don't blame folks for being alienated by the evangelicals' taste in leaders, given they delivered us a president who many, many people are dissatisfied with.
yes, in your opinion. Show me a article from a mainstream publication or a serious conservative one (lib blogs don't count) that accuse Hunter of ANY wrongdoing.
Only one reaganite in the race. I will support him as he climbs his way to the top tier. Fred's a decent fellow, don't get me wrong. I won't care if he joins the fracas.
I'm kinda feeling that way myself. We're approaching a critical mass or something where we have to stop thinking pragmatically and act according to principle, or these incrementalists will never get the point that they're headed the wrong way.
(LIBERALS : -- ROMNEY DEFEATS THEM -- RUDY GUNBANDIANI EMBRACES THEM !)
lol that reminds me of a quote I heard (actually on Prairie Home Companion's joke night): "People say that democrats don't stand for anything... that's not true - we do stand for anything!"
..I love hearing things like this--God bless you and your church...
Well it used to be a conservative website. I'm surprised that the Rubybots haven't declared victory over Jim Robinson and renamed this place "RudyWorld."
These people are well- known among evangelicals. Both of them. Anyway, Land seems to be very far removed in persona from the flambuoyant Haggard.
Sometimes. So why did he pick another loser?
Obsessing over one candidate this early on......just plain weird.
I never heard of them, and most people haven't. I guess they are rock stars in the evangelical movement. If that is the case, at least in Haggard's case, they need better taste in rock stars.
I think the Anti-Hillary thing is assumed around here. It's not worth discussing at length, see.
I'm against, ya know, *Satan* but I spend more time trying to expose unfaithful shepherds who claim to be Christian but lead the church away from the truth. Get it?
I wouldn't even bother if I did not see 15 articles each day promoting him here. Jimrob is getting some serious heartburn, I'm sure. LOL
Repentance? What's that? Sounds like a big theological word they don't use in today's churches anymore. :-\
Yeah, that would be... judgemental.
If you have a problem with using the Bible as the standard--then that is another, deeper spiritual issue...
totally agree.
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