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They made my son's 5th grade science class watch "An Inconvenient Truth Today"

Posted on 03/22/2007 9:48:42 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown

I've been a member for awhile but this is the first time I've ever started a thread. This is a vanity, so one of the mods can move it if I've put it in the wrong classification.

My son is a student a Cheat Lake Middle School in Morgantown, West Virginia. For the last several weeks, he has come home saying that his teacher frequently takes time out of class to discuss his personal views on global warming. Today, he said they took two hours out of class to watch Al Gore's pseudoscience documentary "An Inconvenient Truth". I was absolutely stunned.

I have heard of several controversies where they've shown in in public high schools, but I cannot believe that they would show this to 5th graders. There wasn't even a word of advance notice to parents.

I've tried to contact the school's Principal and the the local newspaper. I'm at a loss as to how proceed from here to draw some attention and outrage, and would welcome advice from fellow freepers.


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1 posted on 03/22/2007 9:48:45 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Captain,
This little video may help you understand why your kids need to be OUT of the government indoctrination center.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U


2 posted on 03/22/2007 9:50:39 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

My son is a high school sophomore. I hit the roof a couple weeks ago when I learned his "science" teacher showed the film. I haven't calmed down enough yet to go talk to him.


3 posted on 03/22/2007 9:53:48 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I would ask the school officials to at least have the kids watch a show on the opposing point of view.


4 posted on 03/22/2007 9:54:32 PM PDT by cabojoe (WHO'S THE DADDY?)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Call the School Board in the morning.


5 posted on 03/22/2007 9:57:01 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

The flagrant exhibition of communist rule is beginning to show it's ugly head. America has been under siege for many many years. The colleges have already been totally taken over.


6 posted on 03/22/2007 9:57:07 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Again, call the School Board


7 posted on 03/22/2007 9:57:31 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: http://appealforcourage.org)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

INTREP


8 posted on 03/22/2007 9:58:56 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I thought they strictly enforced the separation of church and state in government schools....

Separation of school and state BUMP!


9 posted on 03/22/2007 9:59:04 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Demand that the kids be also shown the following video that presents the other side of the story, and make a big stink about it...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4520665474899458831&q=great+global+warming+swindle

Find other parents that are equally disgusted and form a united front and confront the principal and teacher. Make a scene so that the press has to cover it.

The time has come to take the fight to these bullies!!!

Good luck!


10 posted on 03/22/2007 10:00:29 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: CaptainMorgantown

You should politely but firmly demand they be shown the rebuttal film.

The Great Global Warming Swindle
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803521/posts


11 posted on 03/22/2007 10:00:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Threaten to withdraw your son from the school if they don't do something about the teacher; potentially losing money is probably the only thing that will get their attention.


12 posted on 03/22/2007 10:01:00 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Sue the bastards!


13 posted on 03/22/2007 10:01:24 PM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

This is criminal.....it will scare the kids.


14 posted on 03/22/2007 10:01:33 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: CaptainMorgantown
Lets see in the last 24 hours Gore has been called a Prophet and most here would agree Gore is the High Priest of a new religion. There must me some law about showing a religious film in school.

Seriously, call the school board and the local news.
15 posted on 03/22/2007 10:03:58 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: LongElegantLegs

-use the "s" word in school and pay the price. -you WILL be labeled....not worth it, just pull your child and homeschool.


16 posted on 03/22/2007 10:04:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: CaptainMorgantown
See if you can get the school to also show The Great Global Warming Swindle for balance. It is an extremely effective rebuttal to the Goracle.

There is a low-resolution version linked at Little Green Footballs, here:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24760_The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle&only

There are higher resolution versions available as torrent downloads on the Internet. There might be copyright problems with using this material -- I'm not sure.

17 posted on 03/22/2007 10:04:31 PM PDT by TChad
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I think the global warming hysteria is roughly analogous to the A-bomb "hysteria" ( as it's known ) of the fifties and sixties. I remember seeing news footage on TV, at the age of 10 or so, of a congressman talking about "the end of the world". At this age, one need only hear the words, and that's it. As I recall, my dad was nearby at the time, and I freely vocalized, "What! The end of the world!" My dad pooh-poohed the idea. "Oh, that's a bunch of nonsense!" - or something along those lines. This was immensely reassuring to me, although I still had my doubts. Why was he saying this stuff, even if it was nonsense? It was on the news!

Well, my advice is to not underrate your own influence as a parent, and hence not to overreact to these other influences ( i.e. Al Gore ) If you were to take actions such as withdrawing your son from various activities, or any kind of thing which singled him out at school, this would be intensely disturbing to him, and throw him into a whole new realm of confusion. I think it's best to be calmly reassuring, and, as I say, do not underestimate the power of such reassurances issuing from your own self, the one and only DAD. ( Or MOM, in case I presume too much! )


18 posted on 03/22/2007 10:07:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: CaptainMorgantown

That film is only appropriate for a mythology class.


19 posted on 03/22/2007 10:09:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: CaptainMorgantown

There is an opposing film now out, done by some Brits. I believe I would argue that it has to be shown now as well.


20 posted on 03/22/2007 10:11:14 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: tioga

Yeah, I was going to suggest that, but I figured that it wouldn't be very helpful to him.


21 posted on 03/22/2007 10:12:30 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: FastCoyote

bttt


22 posted on 03/22/2007 10:12:31 PM PDT by DocRock (What would Solomon Do?)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
I'm in Canada and my son had to do a report on Al Gore's film. My wife is a teacher and she knows that in many cases teachers will use videos because they are not prepared or it is a filler and they don't care that much about the video's content. Nevertheless, Al Gore's film is systematically being used by teachers and it is no surprise to me. I would have bet money on its use. I have "The Great Global Warming Swindle" video and will be showing it to my son. That video presents a great counter position to Gore's film. Check the video out if you have a chance -- it is very powerfull.
23 posted on 03/22/2007 10:19:18 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: CaptainMorgantown

The school owns your children. Your minor daughter can be encouraged to have an abortion without your ever knowing she became pregnant. Welcome to modern life. Good luck. If you want to burn the school to the ground, I'll be happy to send matches. Other than that, I would recommend you put your children in Private School where parents still have some control over the process. Good luck.


24 posted on 03/22/2007 10:21:14 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: CaptainMorgantown

De-program YOUR son, everyday.


25 posted on 03/22/2007 10:22:09 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: CaptainMorgantown
This is an opportunity to spend time with your son. Research the science. Show your son the difference between science and propaganda. Don't leave your son's learning in the hands of others. Don't be afraid of others telling lies to your son so long as he knows he can come to you to straighten out his understanding. You can beat the socialists so long as you talk to your son. It's not hard. The socialist's arguments are stupid and easily refuted. In fact your son may drive the teacher nuts.
26 posted on 03/22/2007 10:25:04 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Threaten to withdraw your son from the school if they don't do something about the teacher; potentially losing money is probably the only thing that will get their attention.

Yes, the option to still pay thousands in property taxes and spend $20,000 more for private school is an option for all of us. Union teachers rolling on ground laughing out loud at this idea.

27 posted on 03/22/2007 10:28:06 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I speak from experience. LOL, NOW it's funny. My daughter's doc warned them she has exercised induced asthma and sent very detailed instructions in writing that they could not FORCE her to perform in gym class........needless to say the gym teacher labeled her and one day DID force her......she had quite an episode of an asthma attack....I was called and raced to the school to find the gym teacher stunned and rambling that she was so sorry she FORCED her to run.....of course I had used the "s" word in warning them that this would happen.....they pulled the gym teacher and admonished her for even speaking to me. The nurse and I figured that she learned a very valuable lesson in attitude ajustment.

After all, they had it in writing from her doctor NOT TO DO THAT! I counted my lucky stars that day that she came out of it, but I called her doc and requested a stiffer warning. Her doc said it was equivalent to child abuse to force her to run.


28 posted on 03/22/2007 10:31:13 PM PDT by tioga
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To: CaptainMorgantown; ProtectOurFreedom
It is now time for you to sit down with your son. Calmly and rationally explain to him the error of the film. Teach him the truth and enable him to spread the truth among his peer indoctrination victims.
29 posted on 03/22/2007 10:32:23 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Have any of you seen Gore's film? I have not and do not intend to, but my ex showed it to my teenage son and my son said it was HILARIOUS as a piece of fiction. I thought it would be some showpiece with Gore's face in nearly every frame, him holding up a pointer to distorted data on a screen behind him, and images of polar bears struggling in the water. My son says there is a plot and story to the film and it sounded like it was one of those cheapo natural disaster films, with giant tidal waves and a family struggling in the frozen city, etc. Oy vey.


30 posted on 03/22/2007 10:33:50 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jeff Gordon; CaptainMorgantown; ProtectOurFreedom

Good advice, JG. Arm your son with the truth and he will be prepared for life.


31 posted on 03/22/2007 10:34:51 PM PDT by tioga
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Don't get snarky; He asked for suggestions and I was trying to be helpful.
And seriously, you can't possibly "out-poor" me.
32 posted on 03/22/2007 10:38:36 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: CaptainMorgantown

I'd get your son to watch the great global warming swindle video everyone is linking, ASAP. Then tell your son to get all his friends to watch it too. Then get all your friends to watch it.


33 posted on 03/22/2007 10:38:44 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Yaelle
Have any of you seen Gore's film?

I saw it on a 12 hour flight to Germany, what can I say, I was bored.

It was like watching a Freshman lecture hall presentation, but w/o the opportunity to scope out the room for potential, IYKWIM.

34 posted on 03/22/2007 10:42:17 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

I was not aware that " the Great Global Warming Swindle " was out on video or DVD. I have watched it on the net but really need to get a copy for my mother who has fallen for the entire Al Gore BS.
Where did you find your copy?


35 posted on 03/22/2007 10:45:22 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Union teachers rolling on ground laughing out loud at this idea.

Your snarky comment not withstanding, do you have any idea how much money is being lost due to homeschooling?

That is the battle your Union friends are really up against, not the high cost private schools.

36 posted on 03/22/2007 10:46:04 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (In this (political) War, Republicans are gutless appeasers. -- Ann Coulter)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Don't get snarky; He asked for suggestions and I was trying to be helpful.

Snark. See my post 26. I gave sensible advice to his question. I happen to think it's a realistic way to live in this world.

37 posted on 03/22/2007 10:48:15 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: PGalt
De-program YOUR son, everyday.

This is what I did with my daughter when she was in high school. She is out of college now but we still laugh about many of the twisted views espoused by some of her far left teachers. If one of her teachers had been right the oceans should be boiling right now.

Rest assured, none of my grandchildren will be attending public schools.

38 posted on 03/22/2007 10:49:32 PM PDT by BaylorDad (I support the troops and their Commander in Chief.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Over the weekend I attended a conference in which there were a number of exhibitors. One of them was the Catholic Homeschoolers in Massachusetts East. I was impressed - very organized. They are prepared for the eventual lawsuits which are headed towards homeschoolers. It gave me a bit of hope knowing homeschoolers were so organized in my neck of the woods.
39 posted on 03/22/2007 10:51:04 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Fight fear with the facts:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/116471.html

http://www.tonymedley.com/2006/An_Inconvenient_Truth.htm

http://www.slate.com/id/2142319/#ContinueArticle

it's jarring that the movie was not scrubbed for factual precision. For instance, this 2005 joint statement by the science academies of the Western nations, including the National Academy of Sciences, warns of sea-level rise of four to 35 inches in the 21st century; this amount of possible sea-level rise is current consensus science.

Yet An Inconvenient Truth asserts that a sea-level rise of 20 feet is a realistic short-term prospect. Gore says the entire Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets could melt rapidly; the film then jumps to animation of Manhattan flooded. Well, all that ice might melt really fast, and a UFO might land in London, too."


40 posted on 03/22/2007 10:56:28 PM PDT by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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To: warsaw44
You can download it from Google Video as a Meg4 file if you click on the Ipod/Sony link. From that I was able to burn it on a CD. I hope that helps. Incidentally, if you don't have high speed Internet it will take you days to download it (235 MGS). I don't have high speed but somebody I knew did, so it worked out.
41 posted on 03/22/2007 10:57:35 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Michael.SF.
I saw it on a 12 hour flight to Germany, what can I say, I was bored.

Twelve hours long Al Bore video?  I'd be bored too.  ;-)

42 posted on 03/22/2007 10:57:36 PM PDT by quantim (2008 => I'll take an imperfect winner over a perfect loser.)
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To: CaptainMorgantown
You might suggest to your son's teacher, in the spirit of full education and learning about ALL sides of an issue, that he have the students ALSO watch "The Great Global Warming Swindle" which aired on Channel 4 in England a couple of weeks ago. It was also up on YouTube in four parts, I think.

If the teacher is TRULY concerned with education, NOT indoctrination, he should allow this. If he doesn't, then go to the Principal with your 'concern' that the teacher is not allowing the kids to see all sides of the issue. Throw some 'educationese' around, like saying that the teachers is not giving them the information that would allow them to learn to think critically about the subject.

43 posted on 03/22/2007 11:01:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CaptainMorgantown

This movie is being shown all over the country in schools, churches, and now on cable T.V. as well. All parents who are forced to watch this movie with their children or else their children will get lower grades should sue big time!


44 posted on 03/22/2007 11:01:37 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
What you posted is good, sensible advice.
I suggested what I did because he wanted to know how to "draw some attention and outrage", not how to refute the video.
45 posted on 03/22/2007 11:03:04 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: Yaelle

I have seen the film. It is really a poor made film and it shouldn't have won an Oscar.

I think there are a lot of people who get too worked up about this movie. Knowledge is power, and knowing what the movie is talking about gives us as parents insight that we can offer our children.

I believe their is a warming of our planet, but I believe it is from the sun. I also believe that this warming is natural and we can't do anything about it except to adapt.

As for pollution, regardless of whether it causes global warming, we should make efforts to reduce air pollution anyways. I live in the Inland Empire in southern Cal. and I see the crappy air all the time.


46 posted on 03/22/2007 11:09:03 PM PDT by jatopilot99
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To: CaptainMorgantown

This is just like the 1960`s-`70`s (late `60`s early `70`s) when I was in elementary school, my hippie liberal teachers back then kept pushing "pollution" down our throats...To this day I remember it clear as day, making us draw posters for everything that was being polluted, "air, water, earth pollution".."In 20 years the air will be so polluted we won`t be able to breathe!" Well gee whiz, 40 years later and I`m still waiting to see someone suffocate.

Now they drop pollution for "global warming"... I guess everyone suffocation from pollution didn`t exactly work out, so now let`s try for everyone burning up from global warming. Maybe 40 years from now they`ll try "global icing" or "oxegen poisoning"..

What I want to know is when are we going to have "liberal depletion"?


47 posted on 03/22/2007 11:09:25 PM PDT by Screamname ((optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: jatopilot99


Air Pollution Facts

During the past 29 years, air pollution in the United States has dramatically decreased as a result of the combined efforts of government, industry and individuals. Yet, research indicates that the public is largely unaware of this progress and believes that air pollution continues to increase and the air quality is deteriorating. The Foundation aims to educate the public about the great strides that have been made as well as the steps individuals and organizations can take to contribute to continued progress.

http://www.cleanairprogress.org/clean-air-pollution/air-pollution-facts.asp


48 posted on 03/22/2007 11:11:55 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!! Fear the Fred!!)
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To: CaptainMorgantown

Hey look, Google has the entire movie here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7038656109656489183&q=plan+9+from+outer+space


49 posted on 03/22/2007 11:15:56 PM PDT by Screamname ((optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
My sincere thanks for the info Jones! But get this - one of our fellow FReepers just sent me a FReep mail saying he'd send me a copy. That is good news as I really don't have a clue about burning discs from my PC. Sad, but true.
50 posted on 03/22/2007 11:16:19 PM PDT by warsaw44
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