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'A Triumph for Pelosi'
WSJ.com Opinion Journal ^ | March 24, 2007 | WSJ Editoral Staff

Posted on 03/24/2007 3:30:44 AM PDT by Puzzleman

That's how the Associated Press described yesterday's vote by the House to demand a U.S. retreat from Iraq, and in the perverse calculus of Capitol Hill we suppose it was. Speaker Nancy Pelosi has demonstrated she can pile on enough pork to bribe enough Democrats to cobble together a bare, partisan majority to "send a message" that has no chance of becoming law. Congratulations...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boobsforbrains; boobspiglousy; democrats; iraq; pelosi; pork
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The WSJ tells it like it is.
1 posted on 03/24/2007 3:30:47 AM PDT by Puzzleman
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To: HamiltonJay
Here is another article with the word pork in it. Funny, once again, it is about Pelosi's attempt to bribe the Dems into voting for her bill.

I've marked your words, and I'm keeping a sharp eye!

2 posted on 03/24/2007 3:35:31 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: Puzzleman

The WSJ may hound the 'rats because of the pork. You can bet it won't be on the lips of the broadcast and other big name LameStream Media types.


3 posted on 03/24/2007 3:37:57 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Oh yeah, and the LameStreamers will not denigrate Pelosi's "Surrender Clause" either.


4 posted on 03/24/2007 3:38:34 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Puzzleman

Isn't it ironic that the democrats didn't campaign against the war and it's said that they have a mandate; they did campaign against pork and that isn't a mandate?


5 posted on 03/24/2007 3:40:20 AM PDT by patj
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To: Puzzleman

A sad day in the history of our nation. The Democratic controlled House of Representatives narrowly passed a Bill that is in fact against the Constitution. The Democrats have been undermining this effort in Iraq since it started and all in an effort to score political points. Now they pass a bill that funds the troops to ineveitable failure. That simply risks lives for nothing. Nancy Pelosi will have our soldiers die for an inevitable pull out. It is hard to fathom exactly what the Democrats are now on record as having done. I believe it is the first time in the history of this nation that politicians have sent our men and women with specific instructions to fight but you cannot win so die in a fight not worth fighting. The Democrats attempt to subvert the Presidents Executive authority as Commander In Chief is a breach of the Constitution. I have asked my Congressman to author a H.R. to specifically ask the SCOTUS to look at this legislation and determine its legality under the Constitution. Congress has no authority to wage or manage wars. The Congress gave the President the authority to act against Saddam Hussein and now they decide to say in effect, well you know its not going exactly how we expected it to so we decided to make the military's job in prosecuting it impossible, therefore retreating from our responsibilities from that which WE caused to happen in the country of Iraq. It is inconceivable that our great nation has come to this. If Congress wishes to lead on the issue of Iraq it can vote not to fund but it cannot subvert the prosecution of the war. Political theater that has the effect of killing our soldiers.


6 posted on 03/24/2007 3:40:46 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (The Liberals are dancing a political fandango with the diabolical. Putting all our lives in Jeopardy)
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To: Puzzleman
I am so disgusted with the Rats right now it's not even funny. Glad some of us sat out in marginal CD now?

They are playing politics with our troops to appease the radical left. It's about frigging time Bush had a sharply worded retort to the Liebral Hate America crowd. The Constitution is frigging crystal clear that the POTUS is the Commander in Chief of of the armed forces. Not some dingbat from looney liberal San Francisco. They can cut funding, but their power is stopped there.

I am surprised it just took $20,000,000 to bribe her weasel cohorts to turn into a bunch of French-like surrender monkeys.
7 posted on 03/24/2007 3:44:10 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: Puzzleman; All
Just ran across this:




8 posted on 03/24/2007 3:52:58 AM PDT by backhoe (A Nuke for every Kook- what a Clinton "legacy...")
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To: tomnbeverly
"It is inconceivable that our great nation has come to this"

It is heartbreaking, in fact. My rep (D) voted for it - Ike Skelton who has always been known to support the military because Whiteman AFB is in his district. I sent him a blistering e-mail which he'll probably never read. And even if he does, he'll send back a canned reply that means nothing. America is dying right before our eyes.

Carolyn

9 posted on 03/24/2007 3:54:22 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: tomnbeverly

We are a military family. I wonder how hard Nancy would have pushed this bill, if one of her children was putting their life on the line every day?


10 posted on 03/24/2007 3:54:32 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: NYRepublican72

You should be way more than disgusted. You should be very, very afraid!

What fools the dems are.


11 posted on 03/24/2007 3:56:03 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: NYRepublican72

Whoops, I believe crAP reported that the RAT bribes at $20,000,000,000. Now that's more believable. I wonder how much "cold cash" Jefferson got in earmarks.


12 posted on 03/24/2007 3:59:44 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: tomnbeverly
So what would anyone expect from the Democrats?

They are anti-American, corrupt, dangerous, and depraved. They are the Political Machine of the Decadence--the Left--that strives to strike a mortal blow to Western Civilization, liberty, justice, and representative government.

And worst of all--it is the Republican Congress and Presidential Administration that handed the U.S. Congress to this gang on a silver platter in 2006.

The actions of the Democrats come as no surprise. They are predictable. There is no depth to which they will not sink.

It is the Republicans who have astonished and failed the American people!

13 posted on 03/24/2007 4:02:46 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left is America's Ephialtes.)
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To: mariabush

Seriously. Someone needs to totally bring back the French Surrender Monkey picture for our traterous left.

The frustrating thing is that Pelosi knows this goes absolutely nowhere politically. All it does is hurt our troops in the field, but the RATS could care less about those that protect us.


14 posted on 03/24/2007 4:02:46 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: Puzzleman
"Leave Iraq so we can spend the money on NEW FLASHLIGHTS for the First Responders!"


15 posted on 03/24/2007 4:03:47 AM PDT by greedo
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To: Puzzleman
I have to wonder if the Democrats want the U.S. to lose so that they can blame the "defeat" on George W. Bush.

If we follow their plan and get out of Iraq and then things get worse, as they most likely will, the Dems will blame Bush for leaving before the job was done.

16 posted on 03/24/2007 4:22:35 AM PDT by wai-ming
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To: CDHart

They pay close attention to how the mail is running, so your effort is not wasted. I kust write sort notes, though, as I know they tally them. I know Ike Skelton and his district. He will be watching, you can be sure.


17 posted on 03/24/2007 4:25:30 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Puzzleman

How can a group of people love islamofascist terrorists and pork at the same time?


18 posted on 03/24/2007 4:27:23 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Forty on the highway, forty in the driveway.)
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To: CDHart

I havent seen the vote yet.but I would bet that my Representative ,Steny Hoyer voted for it. The fact that he claims he is the reason the Pax River Naval Station stays open is by his efforts makes no difference to him either. He just stabbed America in the back. Thanks Steny, When are you taking the next junket at my expense?


19 posted on 03/24/2007 4:27:40 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Duncan Hunter was quotiong from page 78 of this bill last night. I'd like to see a comprehensive story that has more than the same three points in it.


20 posted on 03/24/2007 4:28:31 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt
The only reason Skelton gets away with these things is that he knows his position is safe. The Repubs won't even put up a viable candidate against him. Most people don't know or care that he voted for this.

Carolyn

21 posted on 03/24/2007 4:31:50 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: sgtbono2002
I called Skelton's office yesterday and asked them how he voted. I haven't seen a vote list either. I'm so mad I could spit nails, even now.

Carolyn

22 posted on 03/24/2007 4:36:59 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: wai-ming
I have to wonder if the Democrats want the U.S. to lose so that they can blame the "defeat" on George W. Bush.

It goes deeper than that. The hard left is allied with the Islamofascists. They would love to see Iraq become a terrorist base that could be used to attack the West. They want the U.S. to lose, period. These are people who in their hearts believe that the 911 victims were "little Eichmanns" and that the terrorists are "freedom fighters." When some of these politicians publically compare our troops to Nazis, one can only wonder what they privately say to each other.

23 posted on 03/24/2007 4:40:51 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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'A Triumph for Pelosi'

???

More like : one step closer to being a 'head on a stick'...

(Yes, I activated prophesy mode on that)
24 posted on 03/24/2007 4:42:37 AM PDT by wodinoneeye
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To: sgtbono2002
I havent seen the vote yet.but I would bet that my Representative ,Steny Hoyer voted for it.

Yes, he voted for it. Here is a link to a good page for the roll call.

25 posted on 03/24/2007 4:45:17 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Puzzleman
So the difference between Lib Dems and "Blue Dog" Dems is that Sedition and Defeatism come natural to the first group, but comes at a price for the second. Glad we've cleared that up.
26 posted on 03/24/2007 4:51:38 AM PDT by Shqipo (We win now or darkness reigns.)
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To: greedo

"Ich bin ein Pork Chop!"
27 posted on 03/24/2007 4:57:43 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Puzzleman

Saving for later


28 posted on 03/24/2007 4:58:11 AM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: Puzzleman; Congressman Billybob

That is a great page, thanks for linking it.

I noticed that supposed "conservative" Rat and NFL quarterback failure Heath Shuler (D-NC 11) voted for the surrender bill. Wonder if the non-moonbat voters over in the NC mountains have figured out yet that instead of electing a "conservative," they elected another one of Nancy's lapdogs? (We know the hippie moonbats in Asheville will love this, of course.)

}:-)4


29 posted on 03/24/2007 4:58:20 AM PDT by Moose4 (I don't speed in Durham--if I get pulled for 65 in a 55, Mike Nifong'll have me doing 15 to life.)
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To: Shqipo
So the difference between Lib Dems and "Blue Dog" Dems is that Sedition and Defeatism come natural to the first group, but comes at a price for the second. Glad we've cleared that up.

This is nothing new.

Senator Al Gore sold his vote for the first Gulf War in exchange for additional TV time.

30 posted on 03/24/2007 5:01:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: sgtbono2002
dim=anti-American. dims are aligned with satan and ALL enemies of freedom. It is the dim party that is overwhelmingly responsible for the "ignorant bliss" preceding 9/11. Their treachery continues... with some apparent and willing accomplices!

LLS
31 posted on 03/24/2007 5:09:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: 6SJ7

She reminds me of "The Joker" in the first Batman movie....
in more ways than one.


32 posted on 03/24/2007 5:14:13 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My Number One Goal in Life is to Leave a Bigger Carbon Foot Print Than Al Gore)
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To: Puzzleman

Thanks Dems, for giving GWB a reason to finally use his veto power. It's about time.


33 posted on 03/24/2007 5:16:48 AM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: Puzzleman
"By bowing to their antiwar left, Democrats are once again showing that they can't be trusted on national security. The President should drive that message home until Congress gives him a clean war bill that gives our troops the money to fight our enemies without having to take orders from MoveOn.org."

WSJ nails it. Great editorial!

34 posted on 03/24/2007 5:27:26 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: Puzzleman

Bush nailed it when he said, (paraphrased) "Democrats in Congress are putting their own judgment on how to run a military campaign above that of Gen. Petraeus and other generals in the field."

How true. People will get that message if Bush and other Republicans hammer it home again and again.


35 posted on 03/24/2007 5:38:22 AM PDT by randita
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To: Puzzleman

No, it was a triumph for the fools and idiots that elected the Democrats.

But once their labor has came to full fruitation, they will no longer be laughing.

They do not have the intelligence to realize what is happening or what caused it to happen.

All they will realize is that it is no longer funny.


36 posted on 03/24/2007 5:38:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: Puzzleman

Her "victory" isn't all that great. Even with 24 billion dollars in bribes she still lost 13 or 14 defectors to the republican side.


37 posted on 03/24/2007 5:43:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: carton253
Yes, that's the key ~ Miss Nancy knows her people ~ she bribed Democrats!!!

They took the bribes.

38 posted on 03/24/2007 5:43:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tomnbeverly
Old story ~ did you watch "300" yet? There we have Miss Nancy portrayed as a man called Theron.

In the end the queen cuts out his guts.

Life imitates art.

39 posted on 03/24/2007 5:45:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Puzzleman

Stenny is in Congress for no reason other than "pork".


40 posted on 03/24/2007 5:46:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Of course they did. And Republicans take them too when offered. It's called being a good representative and taking care of your constituents back home.


41 posted on 03/24/2007 6:03:39 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: Moose4

ALL of the new Democrats voted for this defeated pork bill when that is what they ran against!! NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!


42 posted on 03/24/2007 6:07:54 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: mariabush
We are a military family. I wonder how hard Nancy would have pushed this bill, if one of her children was putting their life on the line every day?,/i>

She woud never allow her kids to stoop to the depths of joining the military

43 posted on 03/24/2007 6:08:25 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: randita

Democrat STAFFERS will be running the war more than Gen Pertraeus!!! Our country is doomed.


44 posted on 03/24/2007 6:08:55 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: carton253
Here is another article with the word pork in it.

Soon the House RATs will ban the word "pork" so as not to offend Muslim convert Rep. Keith Ellison.

45 posted on 03/24/2007 6:11:17 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ClaireSolt
Duncan Hunter was quotiong from page 78 of this bill last night. I'd like to see a comprehensive story that has more than the same three points in it.

I'd like to see this list.
46 posted on 03/24/2007 6:11:22 AM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: Suzy Quzy

There is more truth in your statement than you might know. My granddaughter worked as an intern for our local Congresswoman a couple of summers ago. She said then that the country was being run by 25 yo's.


47 posted on 03/24/2007 6:13:32 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: montag813

LOL!


48 posted on 03/24/2007 6:14:36 AM PDT by carton253 (Not enough space to express how I truly feel.)
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To: mariabush

Sad isn't it.


49 posted on 03/24/2007 6:15:26 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Savage Beast

And worst of all--it is the Republican Congress and Presidential Administration that handed the U.S. Congress to this gang on a silver platter in 2006.




Exactly....FR's and the base were shouting at the top of their lungs to this administation...secure the border ....quit spending money like you hate the stuff or lose big in 06 and live under the hellish whiphand of the dims.


50 posted on 03/24/2007 6:16:02 AM PDT by Blackirish
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