Skip to comments.Why do Democrats crave defeat?
Posted on 03/24/2007 10:39:38 PM PDT by jazusamo
Sunday, March 25, 2007
Please explain something to me. What is this obsession that liberals have with seeing America destroyed?
Why are they so intent on humiliating their fellow citizens? And why don't they have at least some modicum of pride about the greatest nation the world has ever produced?
In other words, why are they so insistent on seeing America pummeled?
It is clear from the way they recoil when someone refers to them as "anti-American" or "unpatriotic" that there is a piece of them (however insignificantly tiny) that does not wish to be classified as such.
But I cannot for the life of me comprehend why they are so offended. It seems to me that if you love your country, that you love it most when it faces its toughest challenges. But this is not the case with John Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Rahm Emmanuel, and the other 215 that first authored, then voted for, the bill that would hand over victory to the terrorists we have been battling so hard to defeat since 9/11.
In their own echo-chamber vanity Murtha, Pelosi and company believe themselves to be smarter than the commanders of the operations in the war on terror. And they believe that we will sit mesmerized, like sheep, while they single-handedly attempt to give the terrorists a date for victory - August 31, 2008.
But they didn't just author defeat - they campaigned for it.
Only a day or two earlier the "let the terrorists win" bill looked like it was in deep trouble. Some of the more socially conservative blue-dog democrats argued that it would not play well to the average citizen to be authoring a bill, and to hold hostage the paychecks of the men and women in uniform over the issue of when we give victory to the other side.
And that is when the $96 million dollar supplement began to expand like Murtha's waistline. When it was finally passed it had ballooned to nearly $124 million.
Now don't get me wrong - I think that spending more on defense is nearly always a good thing. The problem with this evolving spending measure was that it was all about the pork. The additional $28 million added to the bill was the price of all the "gimmes" that Democrat leadership was forced to pony up just to bribe, er... buy, scratch that... secure the reluctant congressional members votes. And by increasing the price tag by more than an additional one fourth of the monies of the original supplement, they were only able to get 218 votes - the barest of bare minimums to get the measure passed.
So not only did the Democrats author a resolution that called for the terrorists to claim victory on August 31, 2008, not only did they twist arms of lower ranking members to get them on board, now they were willing to spend the money that you and I are sending them by way of our tax bill - to fund the effort to buy congressional members' loyalty to the concept of the terrorists winning.
Am I the only one in America that thinks this is truly, dastardly, diabolically - sick?
Personally I believe I work far too many hours, for not nearly enough money, to be paying the exorbitant amount of taxes - to only have them be used against the safety and welfare of my family.
How do these people sleep at night?
It is one thing to attempt to a have a philosophical position that spouts platitudes about the violence of our world. It's another to be against war as a general principle and long for the day when conflicts can truly be decided by judgment and fair play.
But when we have sinister forces on earth that seek our destruction and we have members of Congress who instead of representing the safety, security, and freedoms of America - decide instead to take our own income and bankroll our future destruction, then somebody, somewhere has to say something!
Fortunately we have a President who will have the judgment to veto this measure. But I am still greatly disturbed by the fact that the "People's House" of those who represent us, are so eager to wave the flag of surrender. They could not telegraph any more precisely how they would like to see us lose, and the terrorists win, than by putting a date on a piece of legislation for total terrorist victory And they did it before our watching eyes.
It is unwise to believe that 218 congressional members know more about the situation on the ground than the commanders who serve us without political bias or corruption.
It is unsafe to surrender the type of staging ground Iraq would become if we were to leave the terrorists there unmolested and undefeated.
It is un-American to act in the interest of our enemies.
It is unpatriotic (against ones love for ones own country) to legislate, campaign in favor of, and bribe representatives to vote for defeat.
And it is unacceptable that Democrats spit on We The People in this fashion.
Yo' Kevin McCullough -
Have you any sense of what compromises a socialist?
It is really very simple. The overwhelming majority of democrats and a few Republicans in Congress are cowards.
As so many of the responses on this thread have been, your post was a treat to read.
All of my treasure for the ability to write so clearly and with the greatness that some of you folks seemingly do with ease, confidence and wisdom.
Democrats are indeed worthless cowards, traitors and liars, all.
We certainly have our own problems, failings and weight to carry, but these Traitors will only have value... when their bodies have rotted and they become nourishment for plant life, period.
Within the family or team, it's one for all and all for one, from each according to the ability to each according to their need. Very Marxist. Any child worth their salt would cry bloody murder if their parent gave their sibling millions and a life of luxury, while they were left to clean the fire place like poor Cinderella.
It takes a firm grounding in religion, history or other studies to learn that the rules by which communities, economies, corporations and nations best operate are quite different.
The leftists lack this grounding. Perhaps in a few cases they are well read, but they haven't learned to apply different rules to the world at large.
They instinctively hate the successful, the wealthy, the biggest businesses, the wealthiest nations, and in particular the modestly wealthy, big business friendly, leader of the wealthiest nation - President Bush. They go after big oil, big drug, big hamburger, big retail, big tobacco, big auto, big military, big anything. It's all evil to them.
They get spitting mad at all this ... It's just not fair!! If someone has a million times another, it is just plain evil! Nevermind that the only alternative is for almost everyone to live in deep poverty, poorer than the poorest American.
They live in fear, fear arising from lack of faith. And as all fearful people, they are particularly subject to rage, jealousy, envy and hatred.
They are the left. Their leaders have known for a century that a well taught, faith based, population is the mortal enemy of concentrated (in their hands) power at the highest levels. Their leaders have somewhat successfully worked to undermine the religious and educational basis of a strong citizenry.
We fight on two fronts - Islamic Jihad and Leftist Marxism. I don't know which is more dangerous, but I suspect that it is the latter.
The answer is very simple. The Democrat party is the communist party in drag (although their masks are beginning to come off) and their goal is, and always has been, to overthrow the United States government and replace it with a soviet state. This is what it's all about and before it's over, there will be another civil war, the soviets will be defeated, and we will get our country back.
Sorry, meant cultural self-hatred.
Democrats want to be in charge,and they will do ANYTHING to get that power ,even if it means America's demise.With their latest vote the Dems had to nearly promise the moon to get some of their own people to vote for it.Something is going to happen,sooner or later, and the Dems will be unable to blame anyone but themselves.
There is a peculiar mindset, found especially often in liberals, that believes that anything that's exceptionally good, by its existence, will make everything else (including themselves) worse. By destroying the good things they can thus make everything else, including themselves, better by comparison.
Thanks for your post.
I almost didn't post this article tonight because it's passed my usual bedtime but I figured I would go ahead for the late ones here.
I'm glad I did, there are many great posts on it.
Yeah, as I mentioned in my initial post, they sure do hate the very society that has given them a platform to express their hatred of it.
Some outstanding contributions on this thread.
The more I learn about Information Operations and Psychological Operations, the more I realize what a job is being done on the American domestic target audience.
Wow, spot on! Be careful about using the "C" word in public though, as you'll immediately be labeled a McCartheyist. I prefer "Bolsheviks."
What we now recognize as Islamic Jihad was fomented with Soviet assistance. Cultural Marxism/political correctness served as an information operations preparation of the battlefield for the current iteration of this multi-century war of civilizations.
Thank you very much.
Ping to Kevin!
So what were the Democrats to do ? Not Much. They were turning into frothing maniacal rabid dogs - biting and clawing at anything they could. And as Rush likes to say, descending into the first stages of utter madness. They had failed in everything else until then including their prediction about the economy.
So their only hope lay in Iraq, which unfortunately for them was out of their control. Well not entirely, but for the most part. If Bush was to be discredited, paving the way for 2008,** AMERICA MUST LOSE**. This is Bush's war, so America must not only lose, it must be HUMILIATED like never before - and if possible with body count in the tens of thousands. But how can the Democrats achieve that ? There are two ways that are obvious a) Force a withdrawal -- a withdrawal in the public's eye is a defeat because the job is still unfinished. And thats all they care about - how the public perceives it. b) Cut off funding. If you cut off funding then b) leads to a) and the Democrat mission is accomplished.
In conclusion, the Democrats do not care about America. They do not really care if America wins or America loses so long as they can reclaim power in 2008. But for now, an American defeat to them is a means to an end. That my FRiends is why the Democrats crave defeat.
Ah, the good old B word. I agree it's safer, but only because the graduates of todays indoctrination centers (Universities) don't know what "Bolshevik" means.