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To: jazusamo

After September 11, President Bush decimated the Taliban, chased Al Qaeda into the caves, established an ally in Pakistan while keeping good relations with India, and averted economic catastrophe in this country. Democrats could only recover from his success by destroying him at all costs.

So lowly partisan interests of the left demanded the war in Iraq must be lost. Victory in the conflict would extract too high a political price for them. They and their allies in media needed America to be humiliated in Iraq, no matter the price to our nation’s security.

Democrats have yet to achieve the defeat they require, but we have already paid a price for their banal political interests. We have paid in blood, treasure, and prestige. This alone is cause enough for my permanent contempt of them, which every Democrat has earned and should count on in perpetuity.

And there is something even uglier in their treachery. The war in Iraq may not break America. Even if denied victory, which every Democrat has as primary unwavering goal, our nation might recover. Yet there is a price paid that cannot ever be restored.

Every American, who serves in Iraq, though they may not know this, is engaged in the most significant endeavor of their lives, no matter what else they do. There is a reason old men who fought put on their memorial hats, medals, some even their uniforms, and assemble with regularity their whole lives to commemorate the battles in which they were called to fight. War and its outcome lasts a lifetime; its effect on those who fight is indelible.

During two years working in the Pentagon and one year on a Navy base, I knew many veterans of the Vietnam War. Every one had something stolen from them. The same leftist political interests, whose most important agenda today is defeat in Iraq, denied them the glory of victory in Vietnam forty years ago. You can sense in every Vietnam veteran the loss they carry, having been robbed of such great honor they had earned.

Every member of the United States military today should find a Vietnam veteran and ask them what it is like to go through life having lost a war. Then they should recognize that the leftist agenda requires they be forced to live the same.

Of course, Democrats will blame President Bush. They will proclaim forever that he “lied us into war”.

But it was George Tenet, appointed to be Director of the CIA by Bill Clinton, who told President Bush that WMD in Iraq was a “slam dunk”. In October 2002, Tom Daschle demanded the debate on an Iraq War resolution, which most Democrats including the Senate Majority Leader voted to support.

Hillary Clinton stood in the Senate and said of her decision to support the Iraq War resolution, “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.”

Clinton then asserted of Saddam Hussein, “He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members.”

If George Bush lied us into war, then so did Hillary Clinton and a number of Democrats. If we were not lied into war, then Democrats today are trying to lie us into defeat. Either way, the leftists are trying to steal from our soldiers the honor they are due and on which they should stand their whole lives as they remember the travails of combat.

In the aftermath of 9/11, America left victorious would do too much damage to the agenda of the left; a defeat had to be arranged. We have no way of knowing if Democrats planned for the U.S. to be bogged down in Iraq, but it was not long after the war started before Democrats started using words like “quagmire” and “Bush’s Vietnam”.

If Democrats get their way, and they might, America’s Iraq War veterans will carry the burden of defeat their whole lives. They will pay the price and suffer loss for the leftist agenda. It was the only way for the left to survive after September 11.


3 posted on 03/24/2007 10:42:57 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: advance_copy; smoothsailing; freema; RedRover; Just A Nobody; GitmoSailor

Great post, AC. Thank you for it, I couldn't agree more.


8 posted on 03/24/2007 10:51:19 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: advance_copy
This article might be appropriate in this case. Old articles have a way of becoming timeless.

Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush
January 6, 2003 | By DOUG THOMPSON

Democrats plan to undermine public confidence in President George W. Bush by challenging his credibility and raising doubts about America, sources within the party tell Capitol Hill Blue.

A multi-pronged attack against Republicans and the President will focus not only on economic issues, but question American values, raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations and question the patriotism of Bush and his party.

The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants and party leaders, was launched last week with attacks on the Bush economic plan by Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Richard Gephardt.

In coming weeks, Democratic elected officials will question the President's intentions on the pending war with Iraq. Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. "The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media," one Democratic consultant confided. "No Democratic member of Congress will question the President's patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts."

Capitol Hill Blue obtained a copy of the talking points when the Democratic National Committee sent them to a news outlet recently acquired by CHB's parent company. The talking points outline a strategy to raise public doubts of the President's real intentions, including: --Saying the war is about oil and will be fought to benefit oil companies that have long supported Bush and the Republican party;

--Claiming the Bush administration has "manufactured" evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq;

--Suggesting a wartime economy is the only way the administration can revive the country's lagging economic situation.


"It is clear that the current approval ratings of the administration are tied directly to strong American feelings toward traditional values," the talking points say. "To counter this, doubt must be raised as to America's true position within the world community and the true intent of the Bush administration in waging war."

Some Democrats admit privately they are uneasy with the party strategy to undermine American values in an attempt to get Bush.

"My boss doesn't want anything to do with it," one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. "You don't undermine this country to win elections." Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. "The real war isn't in Iraq," one Democratic consultant said. "It's right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004."

Among the other points Democrats hope to make in the coming weeks:

--Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups.

--The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large.

--America is unprepared for another terrorist attack because of White House preoccupation with Iraq. --War will increase the country's economic woes. --Bush will be forced to raise taxes to finance the war.

"It's time to take the battle to the people and make them understand just how dangerous George W. Bush's policies are to the future of America," the talking points conclude.

Democratic sources say the talking points were developed by Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, Senate Majority Leader Daschle and former House Democratic Leader Gephardt.

"This is a classic, Jim Carville, scorched earth campaign," crows one DNC staffer. "Take no prisoners. That's how you win elections." Democratic party spokesmen would not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1476.shtml

Capitol Hill Blue has since removed this article from their web site. However, it is still available online through the "WAYBACKMACHINE" Internet Archive.

You may try this link:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040613035649/www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=13&num=1476

However, if that link does not work, go to www.archive.org and then copy the following web site address into the service http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1476.shtml

You can then see the original version that was posted on Capitol Hill Blue.
13 posted on 03/24/2007 11:06:18 PM PDT by Tut
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To: advance_copy; Cannonette; Chgogal; FreedomPoster; neverdem; Tainan; archy

Some outstanding contributions on this thread.


33 posted on 03/25/2007 12:01:09 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group -- Distributed IO and counter-PsyOps)
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To: advance_copy

Excellent read.

Thank you very much.


37 posted on 03/25/2007 12:13:44 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: advance_copy

However, the Gathering of Eagles tells me that the dems will not get their way .. and this disgusting vote will keep them out of the WH in 2008.


47 posted on 03/25/2007 2:43:38 AM PDT by The Final Harvest ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: advance_copy
During two years working in the Pentagon and one year on a Navy base, I knew many veterans of the Vietnam War. Every one had something stolen from them.

Did they call the Pentagon Police?

You can sense in every Vietnam veteran the loss they carry, having been robbed of such great honor they had earned.

Are you sensing anything from this Vietnam Vet?

My BS detector's on full gain.

Every member of the United States military today should find a Vietnam veteran and ask them what it is like to go through life having lost a war.

Theives and a Drama Department at the Pentagon. Who knew?

52 posted on 03/25/2007 3:43:15 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: advance_copy
Either way, the leftists are trying to steal from our soldiers the honor they are due and on which they should stand their whole lives as they remember the travails of combat.

Your whole synopsis is eloquently put.

Ya know, I often call these people "stupid", "idiotic", or just befuddled "dumbasses", but the reality is after what we saw this week with the outrageous "defunding vote" these people are just plain EVIL BASTARDS!

60 posted on 03/25/2007 5:06:23 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: advance_copy

bttt


67 posted on 03/25/2007 5:26:50 AM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: advance_copy
re: your Post #3. Very well said.

I have come to loath these people.

79 posted on 03/25/2007 6:49:36 AM PDT by Gritty (It's not the planes, the tanks, the men, the body armor. It's the political will. - Mark Steyn)
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To: advance_copy

Good Job.


105 posted on 03/25/2007 8:34:43 AM PDT by scratcher
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To: advance_copy
You can largely answer the question you have posed by a re-read of the goals of the Communist Party that became part of the Congressional Record in 1963. These goals of the Communist Party in the late 50's, which have been largely realized, and of the Democratic Party in 2007 have much in common. A scary thought.

Take a look at this FR post from 2000:

The Naked Communist

Or read the Congressional Record version HERE

114 posted on 03/25/2007 9:06:14 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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