Skip to comments.Blair convenes Cobra team as crisis in Iran escalates
Posted on 03/25/2007 5:17:55 AM PDT by Dog
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Ah the British penchant for understatement, there's really nothing quite like it.
What a spineless uttering.
it may be this type of incident which forces the US and Britain to finally take off the gloves and whip these peoples a**es..enough is enough..
"What a spineless uttering."
Tells the tale, doesn't it?
Time to start seizing Iran's oil tankers.
This went nowhere. The Iranians calculated that the British would not do anything other than talk, and they are correct.
I truly hope you're correct. It's one thing not to make a big deal out of little deals...it's another thing entirely not to make a big deal out of big deals. The longer the west allows itself to be blackmailed, the surer becomes it's demise.
Why isn't the USA involved? Weren't the Brits acting under a US regional commander?
Start sinking Iranian naval vessels. No civilian casualties that way. There must be a Brit or US sub in the area.
..the 'top brass' say...'Hold your fire'...
WHY allow this to happen without a fight????????
I can't imagine American forces allowing this to happen before their eyes and not try to stop it.
And I mean that as no disservice to the Brits, I really don't.
I am quite surprised they allowed this?
The United States should immediately bomb and destroy Iran's oil pipelines, shutting off their supply of money in the process, wrecking their economy if they don't meet our demands. Imagine that! We demand!
These tin-horned dictators seem to forget that the United States has the power to vaporize their countries in about one hour. They need to be physically reminded.
I thought it was some super force like our DELTA guys and wondered why they openly announced this.
Time to plant the Union Jack and/or Stars and Stripes on Kargh Island. They want to mess with a Navy, let's show them the Navies that are waiting off shore.
I guess we'll see now what Tony Blair is made of.
That would get their attention.
I fear you're right..the left has infiltrated everywhere to the point that they're attempting to negotiate with people who have no interest in negotiation, but instead will keep committing more and more acts of war while the west continually gives in..
"Send in Commander Bond, Miss Moneypenney".
We and GB are both playing a game with Iran that we can't win because they are following the rules of the low road and we are taking the high road. Sometimes you just have to drop some bombs to make a point like Ronnie did with Libya.
""There is nothing to be gained in provoking a confrontation, because that would be playing into their hands."
Indeed you are correct sir. It also says a lot about our gutless quotient as well.
Maybe to avoid an escalation and war
They really stepped on it, did'nt they?
Guennie we are all wondering why.
You're a real drama queen, aren't you?
Get those emotions in check before you hurt yourself.
To the British press and government: "Both sides maintain control"???? The Iranians took control of your mates! They broke that restraint from the very beginning!!! Your skipper stood by and passed the buck (I'm sure under orders) upstaris when while he watched his own men be attacked! Your higher ups let it be so. Now you want to spend perhaps millions of pounds convening government resources to "confront" the Iranians?
I'm sorry, but the timne to confront them was when the whole thing started. HMS Cornwall could have, should have stopped it then!
"We and GB are both playing a game with Iran that we can't win because they are following the rules of the low road and we are taking the high road. Sometimes you just have to drop some bombs to make a point like Ronnie did with Libya."
We don't have a "Ronnie" around today to lead us........
No need for bombs. Bombs may leave civilian casualties for the MSM to whine about. Iran has a navy. Start sinking it.
Sure, sure. Let's establish a dialogue./s
The Cobra team? Aren't those the guys who wear the blue spandex and run around shouting 'COBRA!', all the while randomly shooting their guns? He should call the G.I. Joe team instead. They are much more effective.
But seriously - England is a member of NATO. Does that mean anything?
There isn't a snowsball chance of the UK or US launching a operation to rescue them, as they've probably been seperated and are being held in various unknown bases in the capital. Plus, there is no political will to issue a military ultimatum.
The Iranian's will maximise the potential from the propaganda then claim the moral victory by eventually releasing them.
What should the West do if Iran calls our bluff and executes these fine sailors as a show of force?
Throw a State funeral (If the bodies are even returned) and continue to smile and talk to Iran and "her allies".
Well, if that's all this is about, no big deal, eh?
Right now it's a game of diplomacy but if harm comes to the prisoners it will be telling what the response is.
I wonder how Mrs. Bill would handle this
thomas16 sounds like a Democrat = defeatist, afraid
Iran doesn't have what it takes to start a world war we would end them in a week just like all the rest.
A military confrontation with Iran is just about an absolute certainty. Wouldn't it be better to fight them now while we have the upper hand, rather than fight them a decade from now when they have nukes, and we no longer have a comparative advantage?
She would make a feckless speech, calling on the "international community" (which doesn't exist) to do something.
If you're talking Mrs. Bill Clinton, then probably the same way Jimmy Carter "handled" the first Iranian hostage crisis.
With that attitude I suppose this will be resolved by begging for help from London's radical mullahs instead of telling Tehran to release them immediately or suffer the consequences. They need Maggie Thatcher.
Regardless of whether you view it as a 'big deal' or not, the outcome is probably going to be the same, i.e. a rerun of 2004 - humiliation followed by release. It was a preplanned operation by the RG to retaliate against moves against the RG's operations in Iraq & to boost internal support for the regime. They picked UK forces because they knew the would not fight back and their position is to always de-escalate in this type of situation.
Next turn of events...Iran will cut off supplies of oil to the US by gumming up the Straights of Hormuz (sp) and will sell there product over land to China, India etc. So the US if were to EVER bomb the oil supplies in Iran, it will be perceived as a strike on the world, not just Iran.
Officially touch and go...this capture has 15 lives in limbo...they certainly have been gaining good knowledge about our technology they keep kidnapping with the boats...and some day and maybe soon...don't be surprised when a British boat approaches a US vessel and we then find out that suicide rag heads made a surprise visit to our troops and they actually use our bombed vessel to clog the water ways.
The next war or terror will be on the water ways...if the terrorists can sink enough ships, in major waterways, they will have a bigger desvasting impact on the world then a war fought on land...they can control the flow of oil.
Now if they were US forces, things would be a lot different. But that's why they picked UK marines. They're playing it safe. Easy target, satisfactory propaganda and humiliation. No fear of retaliation.
Make a trade with what?? What if the U.S. holds all the Iranian prisoners? You think we would just roll over like that? We hold all the bargaining chips, we might give them back and allow the trade, but I'd bet Bush gets some assurances from Blair as to UK cooperation with any future conflict with Iran
Another more recent datapoint to consider: the taking of 3 Israeli soldiers and killing of others, on clearly Israeli soil, last Summer... that led to a few weeks of a mini war. Although not carried thru to their release, it was the correct response to the Iranian (via Hezbolla/Hamas) provocation.
"There is alway's hope"....EST