Posted on 03/25/2007 7:55:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
I thought I saw reports that temperatures on other planets are also rising.
Wouldn't this indicate that the warming is a broader phenomenon than the "human-caused" hypothesis?
The fact that this article cavalierly dismisses the idea that the sun may be the driving force in Earth's warming would seem to conflict with this more generally observed extra-planetary warming.
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If it was a 'feedback effect', then warming would continue AFTER the CO2 peaked.
It doesn't.
Therefore, his claim that the reason CO2 lags Warming because of a 'feedback effect' is completely false.
We get to decide; after all the stakes are too high...
Blah blah blah...
Same ol' same ol'.
Thanks for Crichton link. I read his book but hadn't seen this.
Doesn't matter how many moonbat links they provide, they never address fundamental "scientific" questions, like why for tens of thousands of years does CO2 increases always lag temperature rises, by significant amounts of time?
Actually, most scientists do not.
That sneaky phrase, "would assign a very high probability" is thoroughly false.
So that the rest of your paragraph is non-sensical.
But thank you for sharing your opinion.
This fiction has been challenged since at least 1995, when the following protest By one of the scientists in the then current IPCC report,
"In the early 1990s Lindzen was asked to contribute to the IPCC's 1995 report. At the time, he held (and still does) that untangling human influences from the natural variation of the global climate is next to impossible. When the report's summary came out, he was dismayed to read its conclusion: "The balance of evidence suggests that there is a discernible human influence on global climate."
"That struck me as bizarre," he says. "Because without saying how much the effect was, the statement had no meaning. If it was discernible and very small, for instance, it would be no problem."
Environmentalist Bill McKibbon referred to this phrase in an article in The Atlantic in May 1998: "The panel's 2,000 scientists, from every corner of the globe, summed up their findings in this dry but historic bit of understatement."
In an angry letter, Lindzen wrote that the full report "takes great pains to point out that the statement has no implications for the magnitude of the effect, is dependent on the [dubious] assumption that natural variability obtained from [computer] models is the same as that in nature, and, even with these caveats, is largely a subjective matter."
Please provide the link to the anti gore scientist...I wish to put it on my mail list...Gorebots will never care, but we must get the word out...
They already shut down the expansion of nuclear power, limited oil exploration in the US, and locked up the biggest coal reserves in a national monument.
Funny you should say that. Ironic.
This article is a classic case of obfuscation; no refutation of facts; simply links to sites already known to be on the "socialist agenda" side of things.
Or trolling for grants.
Any fair minded individual with more than two brain cells to rub together would be unable to watch crap like Global warming, what you need to know without feeling embarrassed. All of the images shown for dramatic effect are totally unrelated to the words being delivered.
On the other hand, I have not heard a single reputable peer criticise the statements made by respected real scientists in the Great Swindle program.
Polar bears are simply white bears. The polar bear alarmists conveniently leave out the fact that polar bear populations have exploded. They are more likely to die off from over population than from such idiotic claims as "global warming.
If you you were to listen to the claims of these "save the polar bear" fanatics, you'd think polar bears ate nothing but seals only a short part of the year (when they give birth on the pack ice) the rest of the time, polar bears eat nothing.
Nothing could be further from the truth. polar bears are like all bears in every way. The forage and eat whatever they can catch or find. They fish like grizzlies, eat more reindeer probably more than they do seal) ducks, geese, eggs berries etc.
It's all part of the global warming scam that the WWF is doing their fair share of promoting, politics this NGO shouldn't even be participating in. But of course, the WWF is managed by some of the worlds most Ultra-Marxist activists, like Maurice Strong, as are many other NGO's run by carefully hand picked (by strong) Marxist world government wanna be's.
It is a little boring at the beginning, but it gets much better later on with real facts, real graphs etc.
Be sure to watch the whole thing.
For those who missed the link:
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Complete)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU
The Scientists?
Have the heretic researches all been excommunicated?
I would like these "scientists" to explain how CO2 gets around the 2nd law of thermal dynamics too.
If co2 is such an efficient thermal energy gas, achieving over unity as they claim, ( by producing more heat than it can store and is released when co2 is formed) it could solve the whole worlds energy problems.
These "scientists" have some 'splainin' to do.
Ww! I knew I should have saved that info. I'll have to look for it. I'm not even sure where I read it .. I just know I was really surprised by the large number.
You might check over at the Rush Limbaugh site - he has a lot of the global warming stuff.
Sorry but I'm not seeing how their model violates the 2nd law or thermodynamics. Could you give me a quick summary.
"He played on our fears" Al Gore and global warming
Marie Jon'
February 2, 2007
"He betrayed this country!" Al Gore shouted into the microphone at a rally of Tennessee Democrats "He played on our fears."
Some believe that Al Gore is using junk science for political traction, while frightening many school age children and adults. The agenda driven media is helping Gore spread his folly.
Gore's quotes against President Bush on an entirely different subject could most certainly be applied to Gore when he talks about global warming.
There are climate changes, but are they abnormal or just part of a normal earthly cycle? The changes can not be proven with junk science theories that blame man and his use of CO2 carbons.
If you want to join the George Noory Coast to Coast AM radio "Shadow people" believers then be a fool's guest. This is a radio show that discusses outrageous psychobabble. Global warming is a hot topic but unfounded truth. Noory also discusses the paranormal, including flying saucers and ghostly "Shadow people." Noory is merely another Art Bell. "Want to take a ride" with two men who doublespeak?
Henny Penny is an old fable of unknown origin about a chicken who believed the sky was falling. Those who tend to look at Al Gore's theories fall into the same category.
A new, IPCC report, is nothing more than guesses and theories. However, it was written by people with the same misguided mind set as Al Gore. An actual scientific report on global warming will be released in May. The scientific report will hopefully put an end to the all un-provable notions. However, Al Gore will use the attention given to him to further his politics. Mr. Gore is slated to receive the Nobel Peace Prize and has been nominated for an Oscar.
Whether you are a person of faith or not, it appears that, when all is said and done, true science will not support Al Gore's contention of global warming.
Unfortunately, the mainstream, far left media would rather promote falsehoods than give the truth. They would rather ramble on about ten years of make believe dire consequences as the world suffers from climactic changes. There are real problems this world is facing, including Islamic terrorism.
Excerpts from Associated Press:
"U.N. Climate Change Report Sparks Heated Reaction Among U.S. Lawmakers, Activists
"WASHINGTON — Despite a strongly worded global warming report from the world's top climate scientists, the Bush administration expressed continued opposition Friday to mandatory reductions in heat-trapping "greenhouse" gases.
Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman warned against "unintended consequences" — including job losses — that he said might result if the government requires economy-wide caps on carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels.
" 'There is a concern within this administration, which I support, that the imposition of a carbon cap in this country would — may — lead to the transfer of jobs and industry abroad (to nations) that do not have such a carbon cap,' Bodman said. 'You would then have the U.S. economy damaged, on the one hand, and the same emissions, potentially even worse emissions. ' "
"President Bush used the same economic reasoning when he rejected the Kyoto Protocol in 2001, an international treaty requiring 35 industrial nations to cut their global-warming gases by 5 percent on average below 1990 levels by 2012. The White House has said the treaty would have cost 5 million U.S. jobs. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249822,00.html
Excerpts from ChristianAnswers.net:
© Copyright 2007 by Marie Jon'
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/jon/070202
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