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Minority government looms in Quebec
CBC News ^ | March 25, 2007 | CBC News/Canadian Press

Posted on 03/25/2007 8:42:24 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya

Minority government looms in Quebec


Parties in dead heat for Monday's vote

Last Updated: Sunday, March 25, 2007 | 9:54 PM ET
CBC News

Quebec faces the real possibility of a minority government for the first time in more than a century, as the province's main political parties remain locked in a virtual tie with voters heading to the polls on Monday.

Quebec has not elected a minority government since 1878, when a dispute over railroad laws erupted between the province's Liberal lieutenant-governor, Hon. Luc Letellier de St-Just, and Charles-Eugène Boucher, the Conservative premier. Boucher was fired, prompting an election in which the Tories, under new leader Joseph-Adolphe Chapleau, squeaked by the Liberals with a one-seat advantage.

Henri-Gustave Joly de Lotnibinière, the Liberal leader, recruited two Independent MNAs to outnumber the Conservative caucus, and assumed the premiership with a minority coalition that lasted 18 months before five members fled the fold.

When the Liberals attempted to call a new election, Quebec's new Conservative lieutenant-governor turned them down, allowing Chapleau's Conservatives to form the new government.

No minority tradition in Quebec

This unique precedent for minority governments in Quebec doesn't offer many lessons for modern-day politicians, said l'Université de Montréal political scientist Pierre Martin. "The party blocks were fluid [then], individuals had room to manoeuvre that they don't have today," he told Canadian Press.

A minority government scenario has not figured in contemporary Quebec politics because of the popular rise of the Parti Québécois, Martin theorizes. When former Quebec premier Maurice Duplessis's Union national faded from the province's political scene in the late 1960s, after ruling for much of the 30s, 40s and 50s, the nascent separatist movement that became the PQ quickly replaced it as the Liberal Party's counterpoint.

"The transition from the Union nationale-Liberal system to the rise of the PQ was very fast," Martin said. "There was no place for a transition situation where a minority government could have been conceivable with the three parties."

Several provinces have flirted with minority governments, including Ontario, where the Liberals ruled from 1985 to 1987 with NDP support. Saskatchewan's NDP governed from 1999 to 2003 despite only holding 29 of the legislature's 58 seats, and Nova Scotia currently has a minority Conservative government.

But Quebec is moving into unfamiliar territory. "I think the most useful [precedent] is the situation before us in the Canadian Parliament — that is to say a minority government that subsists on a case-by-case basis," Martin said.

Quebec parties divided on minority outcome

PQ Leader André Boisclair said his party's plan to hold a first-term referendum won't fall flat if Quebecers elect a minority government on March 26. The PQ is prepared to work with Mario Dumont's Action démocratique du Québec party on the constitutional front, to organize another provincial vote on sovereignty, Boisclair told CBC.

Dumont has repeatedly said he's an autonomist, not a sovereigntist — and during the debate told Boisclair he will not help him with a referendum. But the PQ leader is convinced otherwise.

Dumont is "sending confusing messages. Some days he says he doesn't want a referendum. Some other days he says to sovereigntists 'come to vote for the ADQ,'" he said. "My duty is to leave the door open, and I feel that it's still possible to build a coalition to have a referendum," Boisclair said recently.

Liberal Leader Jean Charest has warned voters a minority government will weaken Quebec's bargaining power with the federal government. "Quebec has never elected, or at least not for 100 years, a minority government, for a reason," he said during the campaign.

Dumont, who is the only leader to predict a minority government outcome, is confident the scenario will lead to greater political accountability, he told CBC. Minority governments paradoxical

Voters do retain the impression that minority governments are more accountable, but they are also be paradoxical, said Vincent Marissal, a political columnist with La Presse, a Montreal daily.

"If you're not happy with [the government] you just fire them and have another election. But people don't like to have elections. It's expensive, and people have to make a choice. But because of cynicism in the population, people like the idea of keeping their government on a short leash," he told CBC.ca.

A minority government is a wake-up call and may force Quebec's leading parties to do some soul-searching, Marissal said. That's what happened to the federal Conservatives.

"When we elected Stephen Harper's minority government, some people said it was almost the end of the world. But the world is still turning, it's not that bad, he's managed to keep it together," Marissal said.

"To see today how green the Conservatives have become, it's the best example to show that a minority government can change a political party, in a deep way."

With files from Canadian Press


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: canada; quebec
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1 posted on 03/25/2007 8:42:26 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: fanfan

Hey, long time no ping! Thought this might be of interest to your Canada ping list.

Should be very interesting returns tomorrow night.


2 posted on 03/25/2007 8:45:15 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: goldstategop

Ping for tomorrow's nailbiter


3 posted on 03/25/2007 8:56:05 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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I am in Quebec so will be voting in this election tomorrow.




4 posted on 03/25/2007 9:47:35 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

Since you're there, let me ask: got any predictions for the outcome?


5 posted on 03/25/2007 9:51:54 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...
Thanks for the post Dubya.

Canada ping.

Please send me a FReepmail to get on or off this Canada ping list.

6 posted on 03/26/2007 4:21:59 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: GiveEmDubya; fanfan
IF Quebec ends up with a (likely Liberal) minority government tonight, it will be because efforts to both crush separatism & move the province rightward have worked - at least in the short run - a little too well with all of the Quebec City area seats now held by the federal Conservatives plus a few more falling to the arguably more right-of-center Action Démocratique.

It should also be remembered that current Quebec Liberal Premier Jean Charest & Action Démocratique's Mario Dumont are both classic red-Tories (e.g. RINO's) in the mold of their common mentor Brian Mulrony and would, thus & other than for reasons of personal ego, make for likely coalition partners with André Boisclair & the PQ virtually unable to work productively in tandem with either.

While I wouldn't want to bet the proverbial farm on tonight's outcome, to me, Quebec's historic love of majority governments & well known 'tribal' voting for perceived 'winners' dictates a very narrow Charest majority.
While it's increasing trend away from separatism & still, beneath the surface, 'Catholic' social conservatism leads me to guess voters in the secrecy of balloting enclosures are going to much more convincingly reject openly gay, one-time coke head André Boisclair & his Party than they've previously publicly indicated to pollsters.

Still, for authentic conservatives, the longer Maurice Duplessis is dead, the better he looks, eh?
7 posted on 03/26/2007 5:47:10 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

Then my next question is, if the federalists win tonight with the Tories polling 40% nationally, is Harper going to call the election soon or will tonight's results not have much to do with it?


8 posted on 03/26/2007 8:36:05 AM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya
The Quebec vote has lots to with it & most likely yes but, Harper's way too cagey to "call" an election which the public doesn't want and will instead select an appropriate, politically wise, hill for his government to die on at the seeming hands of the Opposition.

Accordingly, several 'election trip wires' have been set in the form of Legislation which it's highly unlikely to support with most scheduled to come before Parliament within the next 2-6 weeks.

"Canada's de facto Karl Rove" will then be able to ... snicker ... cry all the way to the ballot box with his government having been defeated over something along the lines of one of the CPC's proposed 'tough on violent crime' laws by the self-evidently bleeding-hearted & power mad Opposition Parties.

Plus if this turns out to be the exact scenario & with our relatively short - roughly 7 week - campaigns, should some especially appalling violent incident occur generating widespread public outrage part-way through ... hello, MASSIVE majority!

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9 posted on 03/26/2007 9:39:04 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GiveEmDubya; Republic_of_Secession.; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; ...
Early returns coming in: CBC live link

Too soon to tell but, 3-way race with PQ running 3rd!
Arguably the best possible outcome ... if it holds.

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10 posted on 03/26/2007 6:02:57 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

The ADQ is in front an hour in. Whod've thunk it?


11 posted on 03/26/2007 6:04:52 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

adq 48
lib 41
pq 36

Popular vote is currently almost an even 3 way split. This could be a great day for Canadian Conservatives.


12 posted on 03/26/2007 6:08:42 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

The online video feed is repeating the same 30 seconds, so I have to listen to radio...meh.

ANYWAY, if things stay more or less the same, it's a HUGE blow for Quebec separatism.


13 posted on 03/26/2007 6:10:22 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

ADQ elected in 18, so they're guaranteed to at least go way up from 2003 numbers.


14 posted on 03/26/2007 6:15:10 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

This will change the whole political dynamics of Canada. For the last forty years the liberals have use the separtists in Quebec as a wedge to divide and conquer Canada. After tonight the federal Liberals will lose their greatest weapon.


15 posted on 03/26/2007 6:16:30 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

I agree. I'd also expect a federal election to happen sometime in the near future.

ADQ 46
Lib 45
PQ 34

PQ in 3rd in seats and votes. Very disappointing result so far for them.


16 posted on 03/26/2007 6:19:01 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: Reform Canada

And BTW Charest is still trailing in Sherbrooke. This could be a watershed moment in Quebec politics.


17 posted on 03/26/2007 6:20:45 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

The PLQ pulls ahead, but the ADQ is still in good position so far to be the official opposition.


18 posted on 03/26/2007 6:22:13 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

ADQ 31.46%
Lib 32.08%
PQ 29.18%

Charest in still losing his riding.


19 posted on 03/26/2007 6:24:04 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada
Charest in still losing his riding.

The gap just grew to about 300 now.

No matter what happens, the ADQ has done an amazing job tonight.

20 posted on 03/26/2007 6:25:04 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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ping for future.
21 posted on 03/26/2007 6:33:03 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: GiveEmDubya

ADQ now elected in 30. Liberals ahead by 2. PQ still in fairly distant 3rd.

Somewhere, Stephen Harper is smiling.


22 posted on 03/26/2007 6:33:29 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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ping for future .
23 posted on 03/26/2007 6:33:54 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Take out the 28 seats on the Island of Montreal (20 LIB, 8 PQ) and the ADQ would have a majority government...


24 posted on 03/26/2007 6:34:07 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

Only 38 seats left undeclared. It's going to decide Charest or Dumont, not Charest or Boisclair most likely.

Boisclair is finished if the numbers stay like this.


25 posted on 03/26/2007 6:36:47 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya
According to CTV's fancy hi-tech interactive page, Charest's again neck & neck in Sherbrooke.

Local boy made good where he's lived all of his life, arguably one of the top .01% of perfectly bilingual Canadians, as good a public speaker in either language as you're likely to find anywhere, what an upset if he loses !!!
26 posted on 03/26/2007 6:37:05 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GMMAC

It would be one of the biggest upsets I've seen.

Libs by 4. IMO, the ADQ won't do any worse than official opposition.


27 posted on 03/26/2007 6:39:06 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

Charest is now down by 421 votes.


28 posted on 03/26/2007 6:41:33 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: GiveEmDubya

Charest now trails by 421.


29 posted on 03/26/2007 6:41:44 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya
CBC projects: Minority government in Quebec Libs- 46, ADQ - 43, PQ - 36
30 posted on 03/26/2007 6:42:47 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: Reform Canada

Liberals: 37 elect, 9 lead
ADQ: 35 elect, 8 lead
PQ: 26 elect, 10 lead

ADQ is +31 so far tonight.


31 posted on 03/26/2007 6:43:20 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

ADQ now within 1.


32 posted on 03/26/2007 6:47:12 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

Over an hour ago on the CBC website they declared Charest a winner in his seat.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/quebecvotes2007/story/2007/03/26/qcv-charest20070326.html

I guess the CBC didn't learn anything from the MSM declaring Gore a winner in Flordia in 2000.


33 posted on 03/26/2007 6:47:42 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

They'll pull it back, call it for the PQ, pull that back, then a month of recounts. I can see it now... :)


34 posted on 03/26/2007 6:48:43 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: Reform Canada
CBC: Charest now trailing by roughly 459 w/ 90 out of 212 polls reporting smelling toast?
35 posted on 03/26/2007 6:51:42 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Now most of the non-elects left on the board are in the Liberals & PQ. The ADQ has elected 39.

If the ADQ swings a few in the late count, hello Premier Dumont.

I think Charest will win by a nose, however.


36 posted on 03/26/2007 6:52:08 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

The ADQ is totally smashing the opposition in some of the seats they've gained. It's quite impressive.


37 posted on 03/26/2007 6:55:51 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GMMAC

I think the PQ lead just went up another few votes.


38 posted on 03/26/2007 6:56:33 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya
note Charest link in #35 will up-date.
PQ's roughly 450 vote lead in Sherbrooke still holding constant with now well over half of polling stations reporting.
39 posted on 03/26/2007 6:58:28 PM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Claude Forgues PQ 6064 34.6%
Jean Charest LIB 5603 31.97%

Link to live results in Charest's riding

http://www.cbc.ca/quebecvotes2007/riding/111


40 posted on 03/26/2007 6:58:45 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

Charest now down about 700.

The Liberals have grown out to a bigger margin now.


41 posted on 03/26/2007 7:00:26 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

CTV just declared a Liberal minority gov't.


42 posted on 03/26/2007 7:00:31 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada

Still nothing on CBC, but that sounds about right.


43 posted on 03/26/2007 7:03:00 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

Charest's deficit continues to grow with well over half the polls in.

I'm not up on my Canadian politics quite so much, but didn't an Alberta premier win the election but lose his seat about 20 some odd years ago?


44 posted on 03/26/2007 7:04:39 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

It looks like Charest is done.

Claude Forgues PQ 8060 34.87%
Jean Charest LIB 7370 31.89%

142 of 212 polls reporting


45 posted on 03/26/2007 7:05:10 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: GiveEmDubya

Alberta Premier Don Getty lost his seat in the 1980's and in Quebec Premier Bourassa also lost his seat once in the 1980s. :)


46 posted on 03/26/2007 7:06:25 PM PDT by Reform Canada
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To: Reform Canada
CBC now has the Liberal minority, probably sans Charest.
47 posted on 03/26/2007 7:06:55 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: Reform Canada

Ah, so it's not something that happens once in a blue moon.

46-41-38


48 posted on 03/26/2007 7:08:08 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

CBC has now also called an ADQ official opposition.


49 posted on 03/26/2007 7:08:39 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

45-42-38 now


50 posted on 03/26/2007 7:11:06 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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