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$27 million anti-evolution museum to open soon
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | March 26, 2007 | Andy Mead

Posted on 03/26/2007 12:18:38 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

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To: gondramB

Darn it... another typo

>>>>And you didn't see the patterns in the chaos as the hand of God?<<

I do it that way. <<


Should have read "I do see it that way."


101 posted on 03/26/2007 3:03:05 PM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: DungeonMaster

I believe in the day age theory in that the days of genesis are long periods of time and god created all animals but spanned it out over millions of years.

Look at the teachings of Hugh Ross to get an idea of what I believe.


102 posted on 03/26/2007 3:32:49 PM PDT by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: OldGuard1; gondramB
And you didn't see the patterns in the chaos as the hand of God?

I can't speak for gondramB, but the emergence of order out of chaos is exactly where I see the hand of God. I am more impressed by a God who can start with a few simple rules and have complexity emerge -- such as evolution is -- then one who plunks it down ready-made. It's a much more elegent creation -- one much more capable, IMO, of creating free-willed creatures.

103 posted on 03/26/2007 3:59:19 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: DaveLoneRanger

It's BS like this that makes me hope that Jesus really is coming soon just so he can tell these idiots to knock it off.


104 posted on 03/26/2007 4:03:12 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals."-www.iowahwk.typepad.com)
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To: js1138

Sorry, you have to define a light-year as a distance in meters and then ignore the time-element for this to have any meaning whatsoever.

In other words, a 'light-year' is defined as a certain number of meters. That number of meters obviously will not change regardless of the speed of light. It is the time required to transverse this number of meters that is critical. What proponents of this argument do is define light-years in terms of distance and then use this defined distance measure as though it holds some time element.

http://www.setterfield.org/AstronomicalDiscussion.htm#1987A

Nice little trick, but such is the lack of critical thinking among adherents of this argument.


105 posted on 03/26/2007 4:37:13 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Sorry! People like this are completely rational human beings. What a bummer that the enemies of evolution aren't easier to defeat, huh?

You can believe what you want, but to refer to that museum's nonsense as science is an outright lie.

106 posted on 03/26/2007 4:42:12 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: OldGuard1
Look at carbon dating, for example: there's an arbitarary fudge factor to account for the "changing rate of carbon entering the atmosphere from space". How do they get this? They get it from artifacts that they're trying to date! There's also dendrochronology, which means you've got half a million old logs, and because this one has a dent in this one side and this other one does too, we're going to say that those dents were from the same year, and "voila!" -- we've got a single line of trees going back for millenia.

Your understanding of radiocarbon dating is sadly lacking. Here are some links which may help -- if you bother to read them:

ReligiousTolerance.org Carbon-14 Dating (C-14): Beliefs of New-Earth Creationists

Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.

This site, BiblicalChronologist.org has a series of good articles on radiocarbon dating.

Tree Ring and C14 Dating

Radiocarbon WEB-info Radiocarbon Laboratory, University of Waikato, New Zealand.

Radiocarbon -- full text of issues, 1959-2003.


107 posted on 03/26/2007 4:46:51 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: 50sDad
I believe Jesus said, "I am the door" but I don't believe He had hinges.

You believe Jesus was unhinged? < /Literalist>

108 posted on 03/26/2007 5:22:29 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Since you didn't ask: I'm a conservative libertarian)
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To: GourmetDan
Nice little trick, but such is the lack of critical thinking among adherents of this argument.

Try reading the post before replying.

109 posted on 03/26/2007 5:27:54 PM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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To: js1138

Try thinking before posting someone else's nonsense.

You know you're busted.

That's why your response is content-free.


110 posted on 03/26/2007 6:23:13 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: 49th
""Where is Torqemada when you need him?" He used to be living in Afghanistan; now it's probably somewhere along the Pakistani border. I hear he's looking for help, you sound like his kind of guy."

The good student of history knows that Torqemada drove a great many moslems out of Spain, moslems who were false converts, posing a "Christians" after having ruled over Spain for 400 years. But of course, in these times we live in the "historians" have lost all personal dignity and place their pride and prejudices ahead of the facts, so it's expected that most people today are clueless about the facts of the Span. Inquisition.

I won't go into detail, that'd probably be a waste of my time. Suffice to say, the Spanish Inquisition was called chiefly to purge the remnants of islamic scum from Spain, (false converts), and the Jews, (false converts), who fought right alongside them against Spaniards in Northern Africa. The truth about the Spanish Inquisition is that only a few thousand people actually died over a 400 year period, and most of them weren't "heretics", they were infiltrators.

111 posted on 03/26/2007 6:27:54 PM PDT by Cooking101
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
They'll probably pull in $20-25 million a year. That's what Dr. Hovind said he was making.

Isn't he in jail for cheating Uncle Sam?

112 posted on 03/26/2007 7:17:45 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: GourmetDan
Nice little trick, but such is the lack of critical thinking among adherents of this argument.

You are the one lacking critical thinking. Like js1138 said, re-read the article and apply that criteria to yourself. In the trigonometric calculations, units cancel out and you are left with ratios. And if there was a variation in the speed of light, it would have affected both observations in the same manner, hance cancelling out the effect upon trigonometric calculation. The observation is independent of light's speed.

Basically, this article proves you are full of BS.

113 posted on 03/26/2007 7:24:22 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: OldGuard1
They calibrate it, for the most part, based on deindrochronology

And ice cores, coral samples, annual lake deposits, cave deposits and sediment cores. Carbon dating has been matched against all of those, and the calibration modified according to the data.

Decades ago, scientists found that C-14 is a useful tool. Creationists have the pre-conceived notion that the tool must be wrong because it conflicts with their previously-held beliefs. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could make the tool correct in their eyes because it simply MUST be wrong. No amount of data can change that belief. In the mean time, scientists were actually doing something useful on the subject, working on improving the precision of the tool and have wildly succeeded in that.

You do realize that there's carbon-14 in petroleum, right -- these deep-earth, "ancient" reserves which should have *zero*?

Extremely little, and any you get is likely sample contamination. Nobody claims carbon dating is useful that far out, and a person would have to be completely ignorant of carbon dating (or purposely disingenuous) to even propose that he'd get a meaningful result from a sample that old. 45,000 years is pushing it, 24,000 years is pretty reliable. Both are still way beyond the Christian creation.

117 posted on 03/26/2007 7:59:39 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Decades ago, scientists found that C-14 is a useful tool. Creationists have the pre-conceived notion that the tool must be wrong because it conflicts with their previously-held beliefs. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, could make the tool correct in their eyes because it simply MUST be wrong. No amount of data can change that belief.

Bingo! I think we have a winner here!

Good post.

118 posted on 03/26/2007 8:04:08 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Re: 44

I'm glad to hear that you have all the answers.

Job 12:2 No doubt you are the people, and wisdom shall die with you.

119 posted on 03/26/2007 9:25:40 PM PDT by El Cid (Seek ye the LORD while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near:)
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To: Teacher317
Re: 45

...and yet you reject the most plausible explanation,...

Which is...?

120 posted on 03/26/2007 9:28:31 PM PDT by El Cid (Seek ye the LORD while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near:)
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