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How the Falklands War was won
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 27/03/2007 | Michael Novak

Posted on 03/27/2007 5:46:57 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: kronos77
Messrs. Hitler & Mussolini harbored the same doubts.
51 posted on 03/27/2007 6:42:29 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: mainepatsfan

No they didnt.
Something liek NATO and Kosovo war.


52 posted on 03/27/2007 6:43:12 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Presidetn Reagan gave the Brits full access to our satellite reconaissance and NSA intercept capabilities.


53 posted on 03/27/2007 6:44:43 AM PDT by ken5050 (The 2008 winning ticket: Rudy/Newtie, with Hunter for SecDef, Pete King at DHS, Bill Simon at Treas)
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To: kronos77

You are a complete idiot.


54 posted on 03/27/2007 6:45:41 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: mainepatsfan
So know one was buying the Argentinian claim that they were just liberating the islands from European imperialism?

I got to know some Argintinian girls when I was in Grad School. They thoroughly believed that the Falklands are theirs and that the British took them by force from Argentina over a century ago. The invasion was simply reclaiming their historic territory. This propaganda is still the standard inn that country.

55 posted on 03/27/2007 6:48:42 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ken5050

Roumur is that Soviets backed Argentinians and Brits with Satellite imagery. That position of Belgrano was given to Brits and Position of fleet to Argentinians.


56 posted on 03/27/2007 6:49:58 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
You sure don't like the Brits. If you were talking this way about the French, you would get a lot more support on this board.

The Brits probably showed restraint by not actually sinking all Argentinian ships and blockading Argentinian ports via use of their nuclear submarines. They could have militarily - leftist and un pressure would have been enormous against it - kept this up for years.

57 posted on 03/27/2007 6:52:52 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Search for Folding Project - Join FR Team 36120)
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To: mainepatsfan
I'm sure George Lucas did as well.

If not, I'll part with mine for a price :-)

58 posted on 03/27/2007 6:54:18 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (?El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Nope,

I give one to the Brits,
Will to go across the globe and fight for land of their own.

And Nope,
I dont lik ebrits or French.


59 posted on 03/27/2007 6:54:47 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Thanks for the post. I forgot that the 25th anniversary was almost here.

If anyone's interested in a computer simulation game of the Falklands War, try this: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/prosim/falklands_82/1.htm

I have a copy and have played several of the scenarios. It's more simulation than game, and fairly complex. It's an excellent study in infantry tactics, given the absence of vehicles and air power from most scenarios. The system is similar to the JANUS software, which the US Army uses to train its leaders.

If anyone wants an opponent for this sim, email me. I'll play.

60 posted on 03/27/2007 6:55:42 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: mainepatsfan
" First underpants, then ?, then profit" - under ware gnomes
61 posted on 03/27/2007 6:56:57 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: mainepatsfan

Britain also had help from Pinochet, and guys like him aren't exactly in vogue in South America these days.


62 posted on 03/27/2007 6:56:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: jim_trent

Sadly your info/memory in incorrect. No Vulcan was in any museum and had to be taken out of it. All the Vulcans that were used were still in the air force squadron inventory.

The tanker support was from Victors. The Victor was the stablemate of the Vulcan, but had been converted to tanker duties many years previous. The tanker variant of the Vulcan came into service after the Falklands conflict.

The missions were flown from Ascension Island's Wideawake airfield.


63 posted on 03/27/2007 6:58:09 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: jim_trent

What you probably remember is the team that went to Castle Air Force museum in 1982. They went there to remove the refuelling probe from the Vulcan that was put on display there in 1981. No Vulcan was flown out of any museum to participate in the conflict.


64 posted on 03/27/2007 7:02:26 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: sukhoi-30mki
capturing Mt Harriet and Goat Fudge.

Is Goat Fudge, what I think it is?

65 posted on 03/27/2007 7:06:47 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Never underestimate the Brits.
Their intelligence service nearly rivals that of Israel.
Their military people are intelligent, well trained and determined.
If they want to do something, do not get in their way.
Too many nations have underestimated their resolve and resources and have come to regret their underestimation.

The Brits are a good ally and we will stand with them in anything that they do.


66 posted on 03/27/2007 7:08:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: kronos77

You really need to do some research.

No Pucara got anywhere near a carrier. You do know how far east from the Falklands that the carriers were operating?

Would you care to name this Argentine Pucara pilot who is alleged to have attacked the carrier?

The Argentines would have had to have popped up to use such weapons as optical weapons against naval vessels. The last thing that a pilot would have wanted. The ships defences kept the Argentines down low. So low that their bombs didn't fuze correctly. No Argentine pilot would have used a Maverick in such circumstances. He would have been a sitting duck.


The Argentines gave up on the idea of extending the runway due to the fact that it had been cratered at a mid-way point. This one crater from the 1,000 pounder did enough damage to render it incapable of supporting high speed jets. They also gave up on putting runway arrestor gear and any further as basing such assets would have resulted in their destruction.

No high performance jets could have operated from Stanley airfield for any lengh of period. The constant bombardment of the airfield would have hampered any such operation of high performance aircraft. The Sea Harrier patrols would have simply sat off from the airfield and engaged any fighter aircraft that took off.


67 posted on 03/27/2007 7:15:47 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Jack_Macca; All
I sugest that USA bomb london.
I have just joined so no-one would listen, but I find that very offensive. As well as Israel and Australia, there is no other nation on God's Earth that puts it's young people alongside Americans to die if necessary for what it believes in.


I'm listening FRiend, welcome to FR and ditto to what you've said about the absurd notion of 'bombing London'.

If a conservative Brit were to suggest that Detroit and/or Dearborn should be bombed due to the high density of Muslims, we would find that highly offensive. When the time comes, we'll clean out our own nest of Islamo-subversives, and so too will the UK.

In addition to Israel and Australia, I would put in a plug for Canada, the CF are more than pulling their weight in Afghanistan, indeed: were it not for the Canadians by our side in that theatre of operations, we might be in dire straits keeping the Karzai government stable.
68 posted on 03/27/2007 7:20:53 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: kronos77

Kronos please stop with the stupidity. Are you seriously suggesting that the Russians supplied the UK with sat imagery? If you have read your rumours correctly then you would have seen that it was claimed that the Russians suppled Argentina with sat imagery.

The Belgrano along with the Argentine carrier had been trailed for days using the SSNs. All very basic stuff. Both Argentine battle groups. Group North led by the carrier and group south led by the Belgrano had to emit using both sonar and radar. Easily detectable and trackable. The SSNs were shadowing the Argentine surface fleet for weeks beforehand. The Argentine had no option but to withdraw their surface fleet as the RN SSN threat was far too potent.


69 posted on 03/27/2007 7:24:09 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: mainepatsfan

Oh, I remember that. It was a major "Hindenberg" moment when the British ships were sunk by Exocets and bombs.


70 posted on 03/27/2007 7:24:53 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
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To: Tommyjo
Tommyjo said to 'kronos77':

You are a complete idiot.

Well we might not agree on other issues Tommyjo, but we do agree on that. ;)
71 posted on 03/27/2007 7:26:17 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: FreeAtlanta

And also note that he comes out with even more increasingly BS claims in his 'anti-Brit' rant.


72 posted on 03/27/2007 7:27:49 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: mkjessup; Tommyjo

As a complete idiot myself, I am offended by the comparison.


73 posted on 03/27/2007 7:28:06 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: BuffaloJack

I respect the Brits immensely.If it were any other nation fighting the Argentines in 82',I would doubt their chances of success.The Brits faced serious odds.But they are doing their cause no good by shedding much of their military.


74 posted on 03/27/2007 7:29:24 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Mr. Lucky
As a complete idiot myself, I am offended by the comparison

I've seen nothing in your posting to suggest any such thing.

Although I did enjoy your comment about George Prescott Bush joining the Navy Reserve in which you said he probably wouldn't start out as an 'admirable'. LOL ;)
75 posted on 03/27/2007 7:31:26 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: kronos77

Well if they can fight as good as you spell I think a few 5 year old girl baseball players would win pretty quick.


76 posted on 03/27/2007 7:31:41 AM PDT by MadMitch
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To: kronos77

My friend, you can have your bizarre petty hatreds of Britain if you like. That is your choice - maybe you had a bad experience with a girl or something.

But I'll say this if you don't mind. If I was a Serb I'd be a bit more concerned with Serbia than Britain.

Brits don't shoot down American bombers or only in the last decade allowed monsters like Arkan to slaughter innocent children. I've heard he is still a hero in Serbia.

Are you familier with the term: "Get your own house in order"?


77 posted on 03/27/2007 7:36:01 AM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: kronos77

They just assumed the British wouldn't fight back and we all know what assumption is the mother of.


78 posted on 03/27/2007 7:40:30 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: LibWhacker
What?!? Was Novak born yesterday? I followed that little war closely and the talk at the time was how slow and deliberate the Brits were taking things, in order to give diplomacy time to work. It took forever for the fleet to arrive at the Falklands once it left England. The Argentines were given every opportunity to reconsider.

You are absolutey correct. I recall the attack fleet was described as advancing at a "diplomatic speed" while they simultaneously carried out training for the Air Force Harrier pilots to get time landing on a moving ship.

And once the shooting started, the press did their best to wring their hands over the Harrier losses, helicopter losses, and of course the loss of the HMS Sheffield.

As I recall it, there was no cheering of Thatcher until the shooting was over.

79 posted on 03/27/2007 7:41:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: doc30

I was just wondering how much of the rest of the world thought the same thing.


80 posted on 03/27/2007 7:41:47 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Jack_Macca

Nope.
I hade bizzare expirience with UK (along US and other 18 countries) attacked my country Serbia, killing us to establish Islamic state of Kosovo, and I have bad expirience when yesterday US state department stated that it supports independant Kosovo.

But its just me...


81 posted on 03/27/2007 7:42:32 AM PDT by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
I hade bizzare expirience with UK (along US and other 18 countries) attacked my country Serbia, killing us to establish Islamic state of Kosovo

All I need to know! Hehe.

82 posted on 03/27/2007 7:57:29 AM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: Jake The Goose
"zero pride"

Not exactly true. When visiting in-laws with my English born wife last September, we spent some time with some of her older cousins. I was struck by the fact that the men, from separate houses, had pictures of figurines of planes and ships from WWII in their living rooms. One even quizzed me on my knowledge of WWII planes. They bemoaned the changes that had happened in England since their youth. One night in my sister and brother in-law's house we all watched a giant celebration of Britain held at Hyde Park, and my in-laws sang along to the patriotic songs. I assumed all was not lost.

83 posted on 03/27/2007 8:02:58 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Britain has never been much into the flags and songs stuff - ever.

This is for internal reasons. Great Britain is an amalgam of three separate nations and as the United Kingdom - four. And yet it still exists, is still proud and is still fighting.

When the nations of the UK have existed for up to 800 years you don't need to convince yourself you exist. You see it everywhere. The only thing is if you delve too deeply you bring up the old animosities and divorce will come.

Like a good marriage - you know the boundaries.


84 posted on 03/27/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: Jack_Macca
Glad you're here Jack.

My own opinion of UK/falklands is that regardless of their short sighted defense spending (more correctly - not spending) the bottom line is that they did it when others would not have tried. Cobbled together a fleet, drew up plans for a war they were not planning on, used what they had, accepted the losses, and won.

Don't see too much of that from anyone these days.

On the other hand:
It's true that Kronos' posts on this thread are over the top. It's also true that to a fair degree FR posters are not all proud and happy with the Serbia/FRY exploits of our former predator-president. Nor am I impressed with the weird self interest of some very questionable european allies in that still evolving stunt. The fact that Serbs accidentally bagged one of our bombers does not light me up very much when compared to our bombing of trains and bridges in face of near zero opposition.

Again, for my part, our side ripped off a large and potentially valuable section of Serbia/Yugo and is now in the process of formally handing it over to the bad guys...so I'll cut Kronos some slack.

85 posted on 03/27/2007 8:25:59 AM PDT by norton
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To: driftless2
"zero pride"

Not exactly true. ...

I'll ditto that. I was in London on the 50th anniversary of VE day. It was a big event with a HUGE celebration in Hyde Park.

I'll never forget an episode that evening. I was talking to a Brit in a pub. The celebration was on the TV. In the ceremonies, there was moment of silence for the casualties. I was oblivious and kept talking. (Maybe it was all those pints I had drunk.) The Brit told me to be quiet. I didn't take offense; he was right. I was a little surprised at his reaction, but not in a bad way.

86 posted on 03/27/2007 8:42:40 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: Tommyjo

The airplane was a VERY large tailless jet flying wing almost delta in shape (but not a straight delta). It had a tricycle gear. The leading edge of the wing was not straight. It was swept back in several straight segments. Naturally, it had British markings. From the pictures I googled of the Vulcan, that was it.

One thing I strongly remember is that where the landing gear was attached to the wing leading edge, there were NOT flush rivets or bolts. There were great big rounded heads sticking out into the airstream. I thought that was particularly crude compared to American airplanes, but it was explained to be by a person on staff that it was an old airplane (and that was back when I was a kid). There was also an article in the newspaper about the British getting it airworthy for the war.

The museum was the Offut Air Force Museum (where the Strategic Air Command was stationed). My memory of the situation is not incorrect. I have no idea if it actually went into combat, but the paper said it was being retrieved and flown out because of the war. Since it was durning the Faulklands war, I believed it and still do.


87 posted on 03/27/2007 9:02:09 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Jack_Macca
Britain sent many mercenaries, Muslim and non-Muslim, to fight with the Muslims and Croats against the Serbs. Of course when the Croats and Muslims were slaughtering each other, Brits were involved in this too.

They also sent military men to train the Bosnian army within and during the war, but at least two of them ended up being killed by Muslims (foreign Muslims) because they were believed to be spies.

Britain pushed some of the most lying demonizing propaganda ever in the war against Serbs and for the killer Muslims.

And for Kosovo, despite the fact that it's Albanians who are involved in violent crime against Brits and running a large share white slavery operations in Britain, it remains one of the big pushers of Albanians in the Balkans.

88 posted on 03/27/2007 9:07:51 AM PDT by joan
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To: Tommyjo

I just did a search and found the following:

http://www.vectorsite.net/avvulcan_2.html

"The Vulcan performed its last flight in bomber service in December 1982, when Number 44 Squadron stood down. The remote facility at Offutt AFB had been shut down in 1982 as well. That wasn't quite the end of the story, however. The Falklands conflict had strained tanker resources, and though the RAF was acquiring old Vickers VC10 airliner airframes for conversion into tankers, the lead times on the effort were too far out to deal with the immediate shortfall. In 1982, the decision was made to hastily convert six Vulcan B.2s to an interim tanker configuration, using Flight Refueling Limited Mark 17B hose-drum units (HDUs) intended for the VC10 tanker program. The original idea had been to fit an HDU into the bombbay of each aircraft, but hose didn't have the reach, and so the actual fit involved cleaning out the ECM gear from the tailcone and shoe-horning the HDU underneath. The effort took seven weeks from startup to redelivery of the first "Vulcan K.2". initially designated the "Vulcan B.2(K)", to the operator, Number 50 Squadron, the only Vulcan squadron to survive the 1982 phaseout."

I suggest that the Vulcan that was at Offutt was one of the ones talked about here. It was not airworthy when they arrived, but it evidently did not take much to put it into ferrying shape.


89 posted on 03/27/2007 9:20:01 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: driftless2

Nice story - thrilled to hear it - I hope that attitude carries forward.


90 posted on 03/27/2007 9:25:30 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: jim_trent

You'll have to do a lot of explaining. The Vulcan on display at Offut didn't arrive there until June 1982.

http://www.strategicairandspace.com/collections/Vulcan.html

'About our Mk. II Vulcan: This Vulcan (S/N XM573) was the 101st aircraft produced, it was delivered to the Royal Air Force Strike Command in March, 1963. It was presented to the Strategic Air & Space Musuem as a token of cooperation between the Royal Air Force and the Strategic Air Command, and made it's last flight into Offutt AFB, Nebraska in June, 1982. This Vulcan is one of three Vulcans on display in the United States.'

This is the Vulcan at Offut. XM573

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1002559/


Here is the very same aircraft landing at RAF Waddington during 1981

http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1046502/

I serve in the RAF. No Vulcan was retrieved from any museum, anywhere, for service. ALL Vulcans that took part in the conflict were airframes still in service with the RAF.


91 posted on 03/27/2007 9:39:31 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: joan
Britain sent many mercenaries...

I wasn't going to read further because I think the above shows you aren't going to be fair. I'm sure a mercenary is a mercenary is a mercenary. They come from all nations. You could equally say "America sent Mercenaries" too.

Britain pushed some of the most lying demonizing propaganda ever in the war against Serbs and for the killer Muslims.

It never fails to amaze how some people can completely forget how their own country was involved in a much larger way and blame someone else. Psychologists call it "projection".

Wikipedia says:

"In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes ("projects") to others, one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions."

Go here if you are interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Thanks for your post I really enjoyed it. :)

92 posted on 03/27/2007 9:47:43 AM PDT by Jack_Macca
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To: Tommyjo

All I can say is that the original Vulcan was flown out during the Faulkland war. The one you mention here was flown in some time later to replace it. To the best of my knowledge it was not the same Vulcan (it looked different in several respects). I have been to the Offutt museum dozens of times both before and after it moved. One was there before the Faulklands war and it was flown out during the Faulklands war, whether YOU believe it or not.

I hate it when someone reading books or on the Internet tells me that something I have seen with my own eyes never happened. Not everything is in books or on the Internet. When you grow up, you may realize that.


93 posted on 03/27/2007 10:04:53 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

Jim,

There was no Vulcan B.2 in the museum at Offutt before XM573.

It isn't some sort of state secret. There was no Vulcan returned to service from any musuem in the U.S. during the Falklands campaign.

ALL Vulcans that took part in the Falklands were those that were already in squadron service.

If there was a Vulcan B.2 at Offutt in the museum then it would be recorded not only in Offutts records, but also by every Vulcan and aviation enthusiast worldwide. It isn't any state secret.

There are two ways that I can prove this. One is by posting on PPRUNE website. This forum contains ex-Vulcan pilots and crews. The other one is to contact Offutt.

If Offutt had a Vulcan before XM573 then its serial would have been well known. Can you provide the serial of this mysterious Vulcan? I bet even Offutt can't provide it? Why would that be?


94 posted on 03/27/2007 10:36:55 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: jim_trent

I have e-mailed Offutt to provide me with the serial of the Vulcan B.2 flown out of their museum in 1982.

What serial do you think they are going to provide me with?


95 posted on 03/27/2007 10:48:41 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: The Great RJ

Prime Minister Blair needs our prayers, and our cooperation to cope with his enemies, at home and abroad.


96 posted on 03/27/2007 10:53:19 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: jim_trent

'it looked different in several respects'

Why would it look different? Vulcan B.2s are Vulcan B.2s they don't differ. List the 'several respects' that your 'Vulcan B.2' differed by?


97 posted on 03/27/2007 10:53:46 AM PDT by Tommyjo
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To: Tommyjo

There was one doing the airshow circuit during that time frame. It was on display for the El toro airstation show.


98 posted on 03/27/2007 11:24:11 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Jack_Macca
>>>>>>>As well as Israel and Australia, there is no other nation on God's Earth that puts it's young people alongside Americans to die if necessary for what it believes in.

You are right about the Brits and Aussies, but when have Israelis ever fought alongside Americans?

99 posted on 03/27/2007 11:32:12 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: VeniVidiVici

That old lady in the picture is still sailing !!


100 posted on 03/27/2007 11:35:10 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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