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U.S. Navy Flexes Muscles in Persian Gulf
AP via SFGate ^ | 3/27/7 | JAMES CALDERWOOD and JIM KRANE

Posted on 03/27/2007 12:49:52 PM PDT by SmithL

ABOARD THE USS JOHN C. STENNIS, (AP) -- American warplanes screamed off two aircraft carriers Tuesday as the U.S. Navy staged its largest show of force in the Persian Gulf since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, launching a mammoth exercise meant as a message to the Iranians.

The maneuvers with 15 warships and more than 100 aircraft were sure to heighten tensions with Iran, which has frequently condemned the U.S. military presence off its coast and is in a faceoff with the West over its nuclear program and its capture of a British naval team.

While they would not say when the war games were planned, U.S. commanders insisted the exercises were not a direct response to Friday's seizure of the 15 British sailors and marines, but they also made clear that the flexing of the Navy's military might was intended as a warning.

"If there is strong presence, then it sends a clear message that you better be careful about trying to intimidate others," said Capt. Bradley Johanson, commander of the Stennis.

"Iran has adopted a very escalatory posture with the things that they have done," he added.

The exercises began four days after Iranian forces detained the 15 Britons for allegedly being in Iranian territorial waters near the northern end of the Gulf. U.S. and British officials insist the team was properly searching cargo vessels inside Iraqi waters.

F/A-18 fighter jets roared off the Stennis' flight deck all day, mounting a dozen rapid-fire training sorties against imaginary enemy ships and aircraft. A second task force with the carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower also took part in the drills.

"These maneuvers demonstrate our flexibility and capability to respond to threats to maritime security," said Navy Lt. John Perkins, 32, of Louisville, Ky., as the Stennis cruised...

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombirannow; iran; navair; usseisenhower; ussstennis
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1 posted on 03/27/2007 12:50:01 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

bttt


2 posted on 03/27/2007 12:51:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SmithL
Enemy stared down. Check

Saber rattled. Check.

3 posted on 03/27/2007 12:51:48 PM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: SmithL

Ours is a toothless navy. Fun to watch them flex in any case.


4 posted on 03/27/2007 12:52:36 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: SmithL

Can the Iranian Navy come out and play?


5 posted on 03/27/2007 12:53:00 PM PDT by mutley
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To: SmithL

...but will they actually be used for anything more than a show?


6 posted on 03/27/2007 12:53:15 PM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: SmithL
F/A-18 fighter jets roared off the Stennis' flight deck all day, mounting a dozen rapid-fire training sorties against imaginary enemy ships and aircraft. A second task force with the carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower also took part in the drills.

That's one bad-ass carbon footprint!

7 posted on 03/27/2007 12:53:35 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: zarf
Ours is a toothless navy

It is?

8 posted on 03/27/2007 12:53:57 PM PDT by The Blitherer (What the devil is keeping the Yanks? Duncan Hunter for President '08!)
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To: zarf
Ours is a toothless navy.

??????????????

Please elaborate.

9 posted on 03/27/2007 12:54:05 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: zarf
Ours is a toothless navy.

Huh?
10 posted on 03/27/2007 12:55:39 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: SmithL

11 posted on 03/27/2007 12:55:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
An entire navy can't and won't budge the Iranians. Road side bombs have claimed the will of our Congress.

We are not a superpower.

12 posted on 03/27/2007 12:56:42 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: zarf

Those jets off the Stennis are Marines based here in San Diego.
Call a Marine toothless and your ass is grass which it probably is already.


13 posted on 03/27/2007 12:57:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: zarf

One carrier group is like all of WW II all sides, Navy and Air Forces, together. Actually several WW IIs. That might be toothless in some book, but not mine.


14 posted on 03/27/2007 12:57:10 PM PDT by RightWhale (Treaty rules;commerce droolz; Repeal the Treaty)
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To: zarf
"....Ours is a toothless navy...."

I sure wouldn't want to get bitten by our "toothless" Navy.

15 posted on 03/27/2007 12:57:32 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: zarf

Please share from your fount of Naval tactical knowledge.

Cast pearls before us unenlightened swine.


16 posted on 03/27/2007 12:57:39 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: RightWhale

We have a lot of make up work and settlement ahead boys! God Speed.


17 posted on 03/27/2007 12:58:11 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: RightWhale
Sink one of those ships and the Iranians have won the war.

The media and our Congress will have it no other way.

18 posted on 03/27/2007 12:58:27 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: zarf

After the Iranians and Iraqis fought to a stalemate and we smashed the Iraqis in 90 days in 1990, they are watching with fear and trembling. We can make them toothless in a region that demands teeth.


19 posted on 03/27/2007 12:59:10 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: zarf

Your issue is with elected politicians, not the finest Navy the world has ever seen.


20 posted on 03/27/2007 12:59:13 PM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: zarf

It is not the Navy who won't budge but the anti war congressmen & Senators who won't let them


21 posted on 03/27/2007 12:59:20 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: zarf

My cousin is on that fleet. She doesn't put up with any kind of %$#^ on land and she sure won't out there.


22 posted on 03/27/2007 1:00:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Treaty rules;commerce droolz; Repeal the Treaty)
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To: SoCalPol
"....It is not the Navy who won't budge but the anti war congressmen & Senators who won't let them..."

Respectfully disagree. The Prez still calls the shots. One incident is all it will take. Maybe not.

23 posted on 03/27/2007 1:01:35 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: zarf

Sadly you are probably right. They don't have to beat the Navy, few in the world can. They just have to hit on big ship and sink her and the war is over.


24 posted on 03/27/2007 1:02:08 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: zarf

Didn't our Navy sink Iran's Navy in 1988?


25 posted on 03/27/2007 1:02:35 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: SmithL

Revvin up mah engines, shiftin' into overdrive... (dah dah dah-dah)


26 posted on 03/27/2007 1:02:44 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: redgolum
"....They just have to hit on big ship and sink her and the war is over....."

Sorry, my friend...you (and Zarf) are wrong. It would be the beginning of the war....then the end, at our choice of time and place.

27 posted on 03/27/2007 1:04:03 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: redgolum

Then we'll be victims.


28 posted on 03/27/2007 1:04:43 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: zarf

"We are not a superpower."

What the hell are you talking about?


29 posted on 03/27/2007 1:06:15 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: Victor

In a rational world, it would be the beggining of the end of Iran, as the next step we would be sending in the B-52's with Slim Pickin's at the controls. Instant parking lot.

In the new metrosexual US, Congress would demand we pull out and then try to cut the funds. And many people would support them.


30 posted on 03/27/2007 1:06:49 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: zarf
An entire navy can't and won't budge the Iranians. Road side bombs have claimed the will of our Congress.

Iraq and Iran are two entirely different military equations.

Iraq is ours to protect and feed. We have thousands of troops there. We conquered it, and are trying to make it into a viable modern nations. Rightly or wrongly - that is our mission now.

Iran is not ours to protect and feed. We can launch devastating destruction upon that nation almost at will. Roadside bombs are not in the equation. Our Navy can sink the entire Iranian Navy in a matter of days. Our Air Force and inflict pain on the Iranian infrastructure that will paralyze the nation in a matter of weeks.

Yours is an apples versus oranges argument.

31 posted on 03/27/2007 1:07:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SmithL

.......BITCHEN......!


32 posted on 03/27/2007 1:08:38 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (Liberals; People That are So Open minded Their Brains Have Fallen Out !)
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To: zarf
Sink one of those ships and the Iranians have won the war.

I see your ate your Defeatist Flakes for breakfast today.

33 posted on 03/27/2007 1:09:29 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

"I see your ate your Defeatist Flakes for breakfast today."

With a side order of cheese and wine...and FRENCH fries.


34 posted on 03/27/2007 1:12:43 PM PDT by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: SoCalPol

WE HAVE A WINNNAAHHH!

YOU have correctly assessed the "toothless" comment.

Everyone else is crashing on zarf for saying it, but YOU have nailed the true villain to the tree: a gutless Congress.

In point of fact, we have the most powerful military force and the most admirable troops on the planet...

BUT...

...all of that means exactly ZERO if Congress won't back them up.

Unless our Congress acts like the legislative branch of a true superpower, we are not, in fact, a superpower. We are nothing more than the paper tiger that Bejing has always accused us of being.

That does not slander our men and women in uniform, nor does it discount the power of our implements of war.

It simply emphasizes that our superpower status relies upon these three supports: manpower, technological power, and political power.

Neutralize any one of those supports and we cease to be a superpower.

Because our Congress is the dominant body through which our national political power is implemented, the "political power" support for our superpower status is, arguably, neutralized.

Friends, we've got a whole lot of voting to do to fix this, and there's no easy way out, nor is there any short-term solution. We're a team in a rebuilding phase, and there will likely be some distasteful losses before we get back to superpower condition, again.

That's just the way it is.

I pray that each of you is doing the most you can to be part of the solution.


35 posted on 03/27/2007 1:15:55 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Total domination over all kingdoms under heaven will be given to the saints of YHVH. -- Daniel 7:27)
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To: SmithL

Gee, maybe this exercise will help the Iranian mullahs read up on the Geneva Convention. Think we'll be hearing less about interrogations and spy trials for uniformed British forces.


36 posted on 03/27/2007 1:17:46 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: SmithL
The maneuvers with 15 warships and more than 100 aircraft were sure to heighten tensions with Iran, which has frequently condemned the U.S. military presence off its coast and is in a faceoff with the West over its nuclear program and its capture of a British naval team.

Is this supposed to be news or "analysis"?

Either way, it is nonsense. The authors are reading the tired old "Blame America First" script that the news media has followed since the start of the Cold War.

Capturing 15 British sailors and marines heightened tensions in the region, which is undoubtedly why the Iranians did it.

37 posted on 03/27/2007 1:23:57 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: zarf

"Ours is a toothless navy."

That is the most stupid thing I have read lately. I am certain that being attacked by the U.S. Navy is NOT the equivalent of being bitten by something toothless.


38 posted on 03/27/2007 1:32:46 PM PDT by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Didn't our Navy sink Iran's Navy in 1988?

Three Harpoons and 2 1000lb bombs can really f$%k up your day.

39 posted on 03/27/2007 1:35:54 PM PDT by gura
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To: HKMk23

Nice post.


40 posted on 03/27/2007 1:36:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rodgers)
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To: HKMk23

Don't you get it? Voting won't fix anything. It's all rigged. It's a chinese finger trap. The harder you pull the tighter it gets.


41 posted on 03/27/2007 1:49:46 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: gura

Imagine a 30,000 lb MOP-up operation.


42 posted on 03/27/2007 1:50:38 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: scottdeus12

The United States should bomb and destroy Iran's oil pipelines, for openers.


43 posted on 03/27/2007 1:56:00 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: vbmoneyspender

Yeah, I was there. Operation Earnest Will--reflagging foreign tankers and daring the Iranians to come out and play. We shot up some oil rigs with five inch 54's and we dropped a 500 lb bomb down the smoke of an Iranian frigate.

They didn't like it much.


44 posted on 03/27/2007 1:57:38 PM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: gura

What are the details of this photo?


45 posted on 03/27/2007 2:07:23 PM PDT by Desperately Seeking Freedom
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To: gura
They used cluster munitions on that one....
46 posted on 03/27/2007 2:09:34 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: pleikumud

and watch gas hit 6 bucks a gallon.


47 posted on 03/27/2007 2:13:34 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: ichabod1
It's all rigged. It's a chinese finger trap. The harder you pull the tighter it gets.

Yes. I know.

And the government blew up the WTC towers, in complicity with the Zionists. And wWe've never REALLY been to the moon. And there's a huge hole at the North Pole that leads down into the center of the Earth.

Sorry. No sale. I'm fresh out of foil.

48 posted on 03/27/2007 2:16:15 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Total domination over all kingdoms under heaven will be given to the saints of YHVH. -- Daniel 7:27)
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To: SoCalPol

Perhaps "yellow" grass...?


49 posted on 03/27/2007 2:20:58 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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50 posted on 03/27/2007 2:22:51 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!)
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