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Border Patrol agent kills man who crossed from Mexico (Calexico)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/27/07 | AP

Posted on 03/27/2007 8:18:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

A Border Patrol agent shot and killed a man who threatened him with a softball-sized rock at the border, the agency said Tuesday.

The agent fired an M-4 assault rifle at the man, who had escaped from a scuffle with another agent as he tried to run back into Mexico, said Border Patrol spokesman David Kim.

The victim, whose name, nationality and immigration status were not released by U.S. authorities, was pronounced dead from one bullet wound at El Centro Regional Medical Center after the incident Monday. Kim said he did not know where the man was struck.

Pablo Arnaud Carreno, Mexico's consul in Calexico, said the victim was a Mexican man who was apparently in the U.S. illegally. The Mexican government asked U.S. authorities for a thorough investigation.

"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.

The shooting, reported Tuesday in the Imperial Valley Press, occurred shortly after 5:30 p.m. in Calexico, about 120 miles east of San Diego.

Border Patrol agents saw seven people climb a border fence, run to the All-American Canal and attempt to cross the waterway in rafts, Kim said. The victim was in a raft that turned around back toward Mexico.

Kim said the agent fired after seeing the man's arm cocked back with a rock in his hand.

Other people continued to throw rocks at the agents, Kim said. A Molotov cocktail that had failed to explode was later found nearby.

The FBI is investigating and the Imperial County coroner's office was performing an autopsy. The Border Patrol declined to identify the agent.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: agent; aliens; arturolorenzo; borderagents; borderpatrol; calexico; immigrantlist; kills; mexico
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1 posted on 03/27/2007 8:19:01 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Johnny sutton is on a plane out there at this very moment.


2 posted on 03/27/2007 8:20:43 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Got to say it. Don't bring a rock to a gun fight. By the way a rock is a deadly weapon. IMHO the agent was justified.


3 posted on 03/27/2007 8:21:40 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: NormsRevenge

Johnny Sutton won't make a deal with this one.


4 posted on 03/27/2007 8:24:21 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: NormsRevenge
...who had escaped from a scuffle with another agent as he tried to run back into Mexico...

Oh, make sure you say he tried to run back to Mexico, AP. Encourage the Bush administration to destroy another Border Patrol Agent.
5 posted on 03/27/2007 8:25:54 PM PDT by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Parley Baer

SHooting someone throwing a rock is marginal. DependshHow close, and how realistically threatening was it. This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence.


6 posted on 03/27/2007 8:29:41 PM PDT by MrShoop
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like another poor Border Patrol agent is going to jail.
Those poor, poor mexicans cross the border all the time and those Republican agents stop them all the time.In this theat poor alien creature was fighting the agents.


7 posted on 03/27/2007 8:35:25 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like another poor Border Patrol agent is going to jail.
Those poor, poor mexicans cross the border all the time and those Republican agents stop them all the time.In this poor alien creature was fighting the agents.


8 posted on 03/27/2007 8:35:56 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: MrShoop

Never bring a rock to a gun fight! ;-)


9 posted on 03/27/2007 8:40:07 PM PDT by 9422WMR (What we have here, is failure.......... to communicate.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Somehow, I hear the unmistakeable sound of a thousand lawyers' briefcases all snapping open at the same time.

10 posted on 03/27/2007 8:43:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Do you, your company or your country suffer from "AADD"?: "Asian Attention Deficit Disorder")
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To: NormsRevenge

name, nationality and immigration status were not released by U.S. authorities!!! Maybe he needed to ne shot?


11 posted on 03/27/2007 8:46:41 PM PDT by Tigen (Live in peace or rest in peace!)
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"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.

Nah...It seems unjust not to shoot an armed trespasser, Sr. Carreno.

12 posted on 03/27/2007 8:51:59 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: HiJinx

The illegal was on his way to Senior Carreno's office to pick up his matricula card so he can obtain his Americn Exress credit card. I'm not being flip, the consuls' offices are where the matricula cards are handed out. Oh, and I wish someone would try to assault El Seniorcito with a softball-sized rock and see how he likes it.


13 posted on 03/27/2007 8:57:21 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: NormsRevenge

"Border Patrol agents saw seven people climb a border fence, run to the All-American Canal and attempt to cross the waterway in rafts, Kim said."

You try to invade our country, you get shot. It's that simple.

This agent was justified in shooting.


14 posted on 03/27/2007 8:59:30 PM PDT by baubau (BOYCOTT businesses that hire 3rd world illegal aliens.)
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To: MrShoop; Ajnin

Have you seen the damage these rock-throwers have caused? Seen the bloody interiors of BP vehicles? Did you hear about the illegal who tried to bring down a BP helicopter by throwing rocks at it?

Trust me, shooting someone throwing a rock is not marginal down here on the border.


15 posted on 03/27/2007 8:59:37 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.

He had a big rock, he was armed. Poorly armed, but armed nonetheless.

LBT
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16 posted on 03/27/2007 9:02:16 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Bear in mind that half the population has a below-average intelligence.)
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To: HiJinx
Usually they flee or surrender....the one's seeking work and welfare bennies.

Militant migrants and lawyers are causing real trouble for Border Control Agents, Jinxy. Deport all of 'em.
18 posted on 03/27/2007 9:07:31 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: HiJinx

"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.
So give him a gun, then he will be/was "armed"

When someone gets rabbit in his blood, we have to get it out of him. Maybe a few days in the box will take the rabbit out.
You have to get his thinkin' "right" then he won't be inclined to run.......


19 posted on 03/27/2007 9:10:12 PM PDT by 9422WMR (What we have here, is failure.......... to communicate.)
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To: 9422WMR

Hmmm... rabbits.... .22WMR... time to take to the field!

What newspaper reporters don't want the average reader to realize is that the rock-chuckers are indeed armed.

Most of us down here on the border see right through that BS.


20 posted on 03/27/2007 9:12:59 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: BIGLOOK

Aye, Cap'n, deport 'em it is.
And build the bloody wall as well.


21 posted on 03/27/2007 9:14:26 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: baubau

Shooting to kill was best, can you imagine the whining the guy's mom would have done to OUR authorities over her poor baby if he'd just been shot in the butt?


22 posted on 03/27/2007 9:14:44 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Doc91678
Sounds like another poor Border Patrol agent is going to jail.

Glenn Beck is referring to our imprisoned Border Patrol Agents as 'political prisoners'. I think he is right. It will be very interesting to see what happens in this case.
23 posted on 03/27/2007 9:19:33 PM PDT by Brizick (Repeal the 17th Amendment)
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To: Parley Baer

A brick is NOT a deadly weapon when used to bash a white mans brains in. Just ask damian 'fotball' williams. Especially when it's caught live on national tv.

A rock?


25 posted on 03/27/2007 9:27:31 PM PDT by Tricky j (What I want I take, what I don't I break and I don't want you.)
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Oh, God! Here comes Johnny Sutton!


26 posted on 03/27/2007 9:32:03 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: MrShoop
Shooting someone throwing a rock, is self defense! BP agents are hit, and injured with rocks regularly. A helicopter was brought down when a rock hit the rotor, between here, and Calexico about a year, and a half ago. About six months ago an illegal was throwing rocks at a BP agent, who was trying to rescue his drowning compadre, another BP agent shot, and killed the rock thrower.

The Border Patrol has War Wagons, pickups with expanded metal over all the windows, and anything else that can be broken. They are used in San Luis Az. Calexico, and San Diego, their main purpose is to get agents that are being targeted by rocks out of the area. If thrown rocks weren't a problem, they wouldn't waste money building them.

If the area this incident occured is where I think it is, there is a 10 foot high steel fence there.

There is a war going on here on the border, If you haven't seen it, it would be hard to believe what goes on.

27 posted on 03/27/2007 9:32:36 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Go get'em Johnnie boy you P.O.S.!


28 posted on 03/27/2007 9:47:03 PM PDT by ustanker (Secure the border!)
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To: MrShoop
SHooting someone throwing a rock is marginal.

A track foreman threw rocks, railroad track ballast to be exact, and killed an attacking adult grizzly bear in Colorado. Documented.

29 posted on 03/27/2007 10:12:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It makes perfect sense the illegals would fill their boats with rocks (how did they get them in the middle of the river?) to fight the BP armed with AR-15's.


30 posted on 03/27/2007 10:13:26 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: NormsRevenge
"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.

Do you have arms, Sr. Carreno?

31 posted on 03/27/2007 10:19:56 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Bob J
What "river"?

The CANAL is on our side, with dry land between it & the border fence, that is covered with rocks.

Then, right at the end of the article: A Molotov cocktail that had failed to explode was later found nearby.

These b*****ds come prepared.

The Mexican government's comic book on 'how to illegally cross', IIRC, also recommends resisting.

32 posted on 03/27/2007 10:27:23 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NormsRevenge

You know the ILLEGAL ALIEN will not be suing, and testifying about his loss of civil rights.


33 posted on 03/27/2007 10:33:25 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: NormsRevenge

"was pronounced dead from one bullet wound at El Centro' Finally, some accurate writing from AP.


34 posted on 03/27/2007 10:34:22 PM PDT by healy61
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To: NormsRevenge
“The agent fired an M-4 assault rifle at the man,” see the anti gun propaganda? Why add “Assault Rife.”

Check out "How Modern Liberals Think" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

35 posted on 03/27/2007 10:37:03 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; Blurblogger; ...

ping


36 posted on 03/28/2007 5:12:10 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: NormsRevenge

A "softball-sized rock" is a deadly weapon and can do a lot of damage. A man can kill you with it.


37 posted on 03/28/2007 6:23:56 AM PDT by Gritty (The Mexican government doesn't think we're barbaric or unjust,... just weak and stupid. -Selwyn Duke)
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Aye, Cap'n, deport 'em it is. And build the bloody wall as well.

BTTT

The hypocrisy of the Bush adminstration is glaring. We're preached to about terrorists coming to get us, yet our borders remain open and millions violate those borders every single year and our border patrol agents get thrown in prison for doing their jobs.

THE WALL MUST BE BUILT NOW!

38 posted on 03/28/2007 7:35:36 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Parley Baer
The agent was justified. We are being invaded and have to fight back. If no action is taken against invaders, then this will lead to even a bigger invasion.

Johnny Sutton is probably contemplating the death penalty. I have yet to find an account of his childhood and family life - am wondering if there is a clue to his hatred of the BP or maybe he is just too deep into the drug trade or has some other nefarious agenda?

39 posted on 03/28/2007 7:41:24 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: MrShoop
This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence.

Louder please!!

This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence!

40 posted on 03/28/2007 8:01:06 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: MrShoop
Easy to pass judgment after the fact, while sitting in you nice, safe easy chair.

Try the pointy end of the spear for a change.

41 posted on 03/28/2007 8:04:19 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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BP ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


42 posted on 03/28/2007 11:18:36 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: AuntB
like-a dis...

This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence!


43 posted on 03/28/2007 11:20:06 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: janetgreen

Bush will never build it. He is already backpeddling on it.


44 posted on 03/28/2007 12:39:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: TLI

My hero!!!


45 posted on 03/28/2007 12:40:53 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: TLI
This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence!

There is a fence there. He climbed over it.

46 posted on 03/28/2007 12:45:39 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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"This could easily be avoided with a nice big fence!"
"There is a fence there. He climbed over it."

A nice big electrified fence!

47 posted on 03/28/2007 2:02:51 PM PDT by norton
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To: ApplegateRanch
Then, right at the end of the article: A Molotov cocktail that had failed to explode was later found nearby.

These b*****ds come prepared.

Tragically it appears that they do. A harbinger of things to come I'm afraid.

48 posted on 03/28/2007 4:50:56 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: HiJinx
"It seems unjust to shoot someone who is unarmed," Arnaud Carreno said Tuesday.

Us Norteamericanos aren't the ones who gave that practice the name Ley Fuego.

49 posted on 03/29/2007 5:55:49 AM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: janetgreen
If a wall is ever built it will be on the southern border of mexico. The sovereign nations of the United States, Canada, and mexico no longer exist. :o{
50 posted on 03/29/2007 7:25:54 AM PDT by seemoAR (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
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