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The Gathering Storm Against Giuliani (Known Pro-Life Activists vow to oppose him in the GENERAL)
CBN ^ | 3-28-07 | David Brody

Posted on 03/28/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by TitansAFC

Here's a heads up for the Giuliani campaign. It's coming. It's coming very soon. Beware. Run for your lives! As I write this, there is plotting going among grassroots religious conservatives in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and many other states. They want to take down Rudy and they plan to do everything in their power to do it. I received this email from an influential Republican activist who, lets just say, has an extensive mailing list among the conservative grassroots network. Here's what he told me:

"If Rudy Giuliani is put up for President by the Stupid Party, I will work 40 hours a week as a volunteer to destroy his candidacy for President; that is how important the prolife position -- and other social issues-- is to many people of faith. Sure, the Evil Party might get control of the White House again, and the Stupid Party might therefore go the way of the Whig Party in the early 1800's, but so be it. The Republican Party must NEVER nominate a pro-abortion candidate. That would be far worse than the Republican Party putting up a pro-slavery candidate in the mid-1800's. That is how strong many of us feel David. Many of us will also be putting in 40 hours a week during the primary/caucus season to defeat Giuliani at all costs."

Tough words. Don't think for a second that these activists aren't serious. They are. They know Rudy is getting some traction from social conservatives and they are not going to take for granted that Giuliani will fade once his views are known. As these activists galvanize, they could star in a movie.


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To: TitansAFC
It pains me to see so many vows of undying resistance to Operation Rudy, even if he's the nominee—partly because I'm emotionally pulled both ways.

But the reality we all must face, whichever way it cuts (for Rudy or against him), is that for most Americans, and in reality, the only issue that really matters is 9/11. How we deal with that will determine the survival of America and the West. Today, we are in Sparta's shoes. The only question worth asking is, "Who will do a better job of killing our enemies?"

41 posted on 03/28/2007 9:53:35 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Buck W.; dirtboy
Dirtboy said:"Rudy also seems to believe he is above the law."

Buck W said: Replace "Rudy" with "Bush", "Cheney", "Rove", etc., and your quote could have come from the progressive democrat book of talking points.

The point of the matter is this: Rudy has already proven he thinks he is above the law when he refused to comply with federal immigration laws. He also took, illegally, records from his time as Mayor of NYC and hid them, thereby denying the public the right to review them, this is illegal. Both of these incidents says Rudy thinks he is above the law. They are not manufactured incidents, they are real and factual. His record tells the story and if you are for Rudy you are not a conservative, republican maybe, but not conservative.

42 posted on 03/28/2007 9:53:49 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TitansAFC
"I'd much rather lose than have Rudy win. I know that I am not alone." No you are not alone but thank God there won't be enough of you to kill America off once and for all by putting the beast in the White house. It was people JUST like this that gave us the surrender date yesterday. You who followed this stupid "I'll stay home or vote democrat" path last November had better PRAY that W and the GOP can kill this bill.
You want worse? You think "Oh things CAN'T get worse!" Just stay home or contribute to a Democrat or vote Democrat.
On a scale of 1 to 100 if Rudy gives us 5 that will be 50 times what any Democrat will give us. Those who played the part of conservative useful idiots in November will have blood on their hands just as much as the Democrats will, if plastic face and dirty harry surrender.
Pro life? You're not more Pro life than I am, but in any situation like this, my Church says vote for the lesser of two evils. That's what I'll be doing.
43 posted on 03/28/2007 9:55:18 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (google the "Verses of the Sword" to understand our Islamist enemies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Voting for the lesser of two evils is wrong. Does the bible ask you to recognize an entity less evil than the devil but more so than God? No, it doesn't. Compromise is the reason the republican party is no longer the party of conservatives(conservative as defined by today's terms). Compromise IS surrender. You people who want to vote for Rudy are the ones surrendering, not those of us who want a real conservative to be nominated. Too bad you are too blind to see that fact.


44 posted on 03/28/2007 9:58:58 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

"...if you are for Rudy you are not a conservative."
False proposition. Intellectual elitism is creeping in.
I am a Giuliani supporter. However, if Hunter, Romney, Thompson (either one), or Gingrich win the nomination, I would heartily support the winner.


45 posted on 03/28/2007 10:00:33 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: TitansAFC

Nominating Giuliani would redefine the Republican party right out of existence. It might still be called the Republican party, but it would be eviscerated and crawling with liberals.


46 posted on 03/28/2007 10:01:36 AM PDT by Graymatter (Support FREDeralism in 2008!)
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To: Ingtar

I will quote myself to you in response: "The time to weed RINOs out of the party is during the primaries, and NOT the general election".

Otherwise what you say makes no sense at all. I will work for the conservative cause during the primaries, but then will hold my nose and vote for the (R) in the general election.


47 posted on 03/28/2007 10:08:16 AM PDT by rom (Dateline lied, trucks died!)
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To: JohnnyZ
"Not voting for Rudy or Romney in any election. I could vote for McCain though. Only partly because crazy people are fun."

McCain would definitely give us crazy, I'll grant you that. ;^) If he gets the nomination, and I seriously doubt that he will, I will probably hold my nose and vote for him. Hopefully Fred Thompson gets in and we won't have to worry about any of the three you mentioned.
48 posted on 03/28/2007 10:08:25 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That's fine, and I have no quarrel with that. But he is to the right of Hillary on enough that if he makes it through the primaries (a big IF as far as I'm concerned) I will hold my nose and vote for him.

The time to get rid of Rudy is during the primaries, and not in the general election. I think that's where my stance differs from the scorched earth conservatives.

That's where I stand.


49 posted on 03/28/2007 10:12:04 AM PDT by rom (Dateline lied, trucks died!)
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To: TitansAFC
I'd much rather lose than have Rudy win. I know that I am not alone.

That's why its called the stupid party.

50 posted on 03/28/2007 10:44:26 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Buck W.

Nope, you are wrong. There is no intellecutal eletism except in the Rudy camp. Rudy is a liberal, one whose values are far removed from conservatives.


51 posted on 03/28/2007 11:46:36 AM PDT by calex59
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To: JohnnyZ
I could vote for McCain though. Only partly because crazy people are fun.

Until you give them nuclear weapons instead of sparklers.

But I do agree, I'd rather have McCain instead of Rudy's tendencies to abuse power.

52 posted on 03/28/2007 11:47:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: tkathy

"Another election when the big thinkers are working to defeat republicans."

Given the current "line up" of first tier Republican candidates (Guilliani & McCain), I'd have to say that the Republican machine is already working to defeat themselves. Pro-life, pro-gun, pro-smaller government Republicans are NOT going to vote for either of them.

Rudy especially is offensive with his Liberal-while-Republican stances on so many issues. McCain on the other hand is, well, he's just crazy --I say that as an Arizonan.


53 posted on 03/28/2007 11:48:36 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (I faithfully fart toward Mecca five times a day.)
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To: TitansAFC
I sure am. I'd much rather lose than have Rudy win. I know that I am not alone.

I'm serious too. I will not vote for Rudy under ANY circumstances. It's better that the GOP know now that they lose Pro-Life activists if they put up a radical pro-abort like Rudy.

Fair warning has been given. If they choose to go ahead despite the warning, one can hardly blame pro-lifers for the electoral bloodbath that will ensue.
54 posted on 03/28/2007 11:48:40 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: calex59

"Nope, you are wrong. There is no intellecutal eletism..."
Statement and contradiction in consecutive sentences.


55 posted on 03/28/2007 11:49:30 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: SamuraiScot
The only question worth asking is, "Who will do a better job of killing our enemies?"

Sorry. I'm more concerned about the following: "Who will do a better job defending innocent life?"
56 posted on 03/28/2007 11:51:21 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: TitansAFC
I sure am. I'd much rather lose than have Rudy win. I know that I am not alone.

The RNC would rather throw elections (by steamrollering the selection process to give us mediocre candidates) than give a place at the table to serious Christians. Folks loyal to a transcendent God are harder to buy.

57 posted on 03/28/2007 11:52:34 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Rudder
That's why its called the stupid party.

No, they call it the Stupid Party because the hacks at the top and the big-money geniuses think it's a good idea to have a Northeastern liberal as the standard bearer for a predominantly conservative party.

Stupid is as stupid does.
58 posted on 03/28/2007 11:57:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: TitansAFC

Yep! Could not have said it better.


59 posted on 03/28/2007 12:06:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Antoninus; TitansAFC

To FREEPER HERO'S in my book! I am so proud of you!


60 posted on 03/28/2007 12:14:27 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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