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Castro hits out at US biofuel use
BBC ^ | Thursday, March 29, 2007

Posted on 03/29/2007 2:57:04 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu

Fidel Castro. Picture issued 28 October 2006.
Officials expect Mr Castro to return to public life soon

Cuban President Fidel Castro has strongly criticised the use of biofuels by the US, in his first article since undergoing surgery last year.

He said George W Bush's support for the use of food crops in fuel production would cause 3bn deaths from hunger.

The article in the Granma newspaper did not mention Mr Castro's health.

Officials say they expect Mr Castro - who temporarily handed over power to his brother last July - to resume activities in government soon.

Last month, Mr Castro appeared in a live radio broadcast for the first time since falling ill.

The Cuban leader's failure to appear in public - and the silence from the Cuban authorities - had fuelled speculation about the seriousness of his condition.

Ethanol targets

Mr Castro's article appears in Thursday's edition of Granma, under the headline: "Condemned to premature death by hunger and thirst more than 3bn people of the world."

The sinister idea of converting food into combustibles was definitively established as the economic line of foreign policy of the United States

Fidel Castro


In it, he says he has been "meditating quite a bit since President Bush's meeting with North American automobile makers".

During that meeting on Monday, Mr Castro writes, "the sinister idea of converting food into combustibles was definitively established as the economic line of foreign policy of the United States".

Mr Bush has set targets for an increased use of ethanol - which in the US is mainly made from corn. The US government hopes this will reduce the country's dependence on foreign oil.

The US and Brazil recently signed an agreement to develop biofuels, and their presidents are expected to hold further talks on the matter at the weekend.





TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: citgo; dictator; energy; ethanol; flaminghypocrite; hugochavez; marxistscum; monster; renewenergy; venezuela

1 posted on 03/29/2007 2:57:06 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
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2 posted on 03/29/2007 2:57:45 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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If it uses petroleum-based fuel, the United States is accused of advancing global warming.

If it uses corn-based ethanol, it is accused of causing people to starve. (Also, environmentalists argue that increasing use of farmland decreases biodiversity).

What a lose-lose situation.

3 posted on 03/29/2007 3:01:38 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Isn't Al Gore also in favor of the use of biofuels? Stange, isn't it, that Castro gives him a pass and blames it on Bush?


4 posted on 03/29/2007 3:04:50 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Castro knows Cuba has substantial oil reserves. He wants the US to forego alternative fuels and remain a big consumer of oil, hopefully Cuban oil. It's an old capitalist trick called blowing smoke up someone's ass.
5 posted on 03/29/2007 3:17:13 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Ha, ha! Our fault that people are starving in Cuba because we don't produce enough food.


6 posted on 03/29/2007 3:35:01 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Well Mr. Castro, I wonder how many Cubans will be saved by your death alone? How much longer btw?


7 posted on 03/29/2007 3:40:14 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Pelosi, Kennedy, Reid, Remember those names as you firmly hold on to your pocketbook and rights.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

We should just take over cuba, make it a nice resort town, suck all the oil out and take all the sugar cane for ethanol the hippies want to buy.

Hell, it's a lot closer than iraq.


8 posted on 03/29/2007 3:43:50 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

They must have given old Fidel a bunghole transplant.


9 posted on 03/29/2007 4:15:40 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Brilliant

Believe it or not, but the USA is the leading importer to Cuba.... almost all of the exports being food.


10 posted on 03/29/2007 4:19:26 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: dc-zoo
They must have given old Fidel a bunghole transplant.

True. Castro had an artificial anus implanted by the high priced private surgeons he flew in from Europe.


11 posted on 03/29/2007 4:21:56 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

Oh my. LOL!!!!! What does the writing say?


12 posted on 03/29/2007 4:25:05 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

"Assh*le surgery".... I believe.


13 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:42 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Fidel is known to be a voracious reader with an outstanding memory for detail and minutae. He should know, undoubtedly knows, that extracting ethanol from corn for example, does not preclude using the remainder as animal feed. It's not an all-or-none scenario for that.


14 posted on 03/29/2007 4:32:46 AM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Hahahahahahaha! I keep thinking about this hippie chick I got into an argument with about running cars on alcohol. Ha! Even Castro is against it. I wish I would have known that and could have included that in my arguments. She would have been speechless. Save the planet and starve the humans!


15 posted on 03/29/2007 4:40:03 AM PDT by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
He said George W Bush's support for the use of food crops in fuel production would cause 3bn deaths from hunger.

Actually, Marxism causes death from hunger. Case in point: Zimbabwe, former breadbasket and current basket case of Southern Africa.

16 posted on 03/29/2007 4:56:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Freedom4US
Show the old commie the sales figures for corn stoves and furnaces in this country last year.Hey Castro,I'm heating my house with somebody's dinner,what are you going to do about it?
17 posted on 03/29/2007 5:08:20 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Russ

"He said George W Bush's support for the use of food crops in fuel production would cause 3bn deaths from hunger."

Do we have 3 billion people in this country?

Hey Fidel, it is our crops do do what we want with them. If you want food, grow it.


18 posted on 03/29/2007 5:22:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Clintons: A Malignant Malfeasance of the Most Morbid)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Can we make biodiesel out of Castro?


19 posted on 03/29/2007 5:48:17 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

somebody tell Castro, that tobacco is not food.


20 posted on 03/29/2007 5:54:41 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: P-40

Too bad he ruined the soil by overfarming or Cuba could develop a cash crop in ethanol.


21 posted on 03/29/2007 5:56:51 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Tell it to the Brazilians, Fidel. They use more Biofuel than we could ever hope to.

Let me get this right. Half of the world's population is going to starve starting tomorrow morning if I fill up with E-85? Bwahahahaha!

Them damn narcotics have made Fidel null and void.

22 posted on 03/29/2007 6:01:35 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

It's a tough one to consider. I'll wait until Dan Rather goes down there and explains it all to me. Harry Belafonte will do in a pinch.


23 posted on 03/29/2007 6:03:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: CholeraJoe

I have been driving on E-85 for largely personal reasons. From now on, I can wallow in the smugness of knowing it breaks Fidel's heart as well.


24 posted on 03/29/2007 6:11:11 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: CholeraJoe
Tell it to the Brazilians, Fidel. They use more Biofuel than we could ever hope to.

The US produces more ethanol now than Brazil does and still imports ethanol from Brazil. Brazil may have a higher percentage of biofuel use, but the US uses more gallons.

U.S., Brazil plan ethanol partnership

25 posted on 03/29/2007 7:14:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
The US produces more ethanol now than Brazil

Does that include or exclude ethanol produced for human consumption? Lotsa "corn squeezins" coming out of the stills at McCormick and Jack Daniels.

26 posted on 03/29/2007 7:19:52 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

i sure hope that fidel thanked nancy pelosi for the donation


27 posted on 03/29/2007 7:40:59 AM PDT by mt tom (high in the sierras looking down into the garden spot of the world)
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To: CholeraJoe

Just fuel (denatured) ethanol.


28 posted on 03/29/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: FormerACLUmember

ROTFLMAO!! I'll have to admit, I never thought of that 'angle'.


29 posted on 03/29/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Castro has a point.
Using food for fuel is dumb. Make the world dependent upon us for food and then use food as a weapon. (The Middle East does this with oil, we should do this with food.)


30 posted on 03/29/2007 10:52:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Does the United States, or Canada, have some sort of "duty" to feed the rest of the world with our successful, productive farmlands? It was to the advantage of our farmers to sell surplusses of grain to Red China and the USSR back in the old days, but if they can find better paying markets for it, why wouldn't they take advantage of it? It's not our fault that various socialist countries around the world are consistenly unable to feed themselves (ie "40 years of bad harvests").

The funny thing is, I agree with him - turning valuable foodstuff into fuel is not viable in the long run, IMO, and is mostly only profitable to farmers due to subsidies.


31 posted on 03/29/2007 11:03:56 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Well, gosh. Now I'm torn.

On the one hand, I think using food crops to produce fuel is stupid. On the other hand, anything Castro is against, I am for.

What a pickle ...


32 posted on 03/29/2007 2:52:47 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: dc-zoo

Cuba is making aggressive measures to develop a sugar cane to ethanol program. The fact is easily determined (took me 15 seconds on Google) and utterly ignored in the shabby, lazy BBC and US lamestream media. Don't want to make their demi-god Fidel look like the mega-liar he is.


33 posted on 03/29/2007 4:09:15 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Using corn as a feedstock for ethanol is not the most efficient usage of surplus farmland.

But until some better fuel technologies and farming techniques come along, it is a good start.

And I really don't give a rip about Fidel's point of view. I grew up in Miami, and have a lot of Cuban friends. Screw him.


34 posted on 03/29/2007 4:14:07 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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I have to laugh at this crap. Lets take a look at some plain provable facts again.
At one time a barrel of oil was worth 2-3 bushels of grain. the ratio of the price of grain to oil has plummeted in the last 30 years. But then something happened. There came about discussion about using American grown corn as the basis for the alcohol that goes in to ethanol. The price of corn has doubled in the last year and is still on the rise. The ratio of corn to oil is changing in a direction that is more favorable for us and is still headed up. If this program goes into production it will do two things. It will drop our level of oil imports and it will make food more expensive for those countries that are oil rich bu food poor. Our farmers will be bringing more money back into our country. The shift is not huge at this point in time but it is definable by looking at the numbers.
Those folks that can't feed their own people are as hooked on cheap grain from the US as we used to be on their cheap oil. Right now, Castro has neither oil or food in excess. He has to import both. Sorry old man but that is the way socialism crumbles.
35 posted on 03/29/2007 4:28:52 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Holy cow, I agree with El Presdiente.


36 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Remember, don't shoot food!)
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Cost of corn tortillas going up socialism going down.


37 posted on 03/29/2007 6:44:30 PM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Fidel is pissed because his buddy Hugo is not getting any money from biofuels.


38 posted on 03/29/2007 6:46:49 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The United States has no more responsibility to provide the world with cheap grain than Saudi Arabia does to supply us with cheap oil.
We do not own the world anything. All of our foreign aid has been a one way street for the last 60 years. We have been feeding nations that are now lining up to take cheap shots at us at every opportunity. If they do not want to deal with us in a civil way then maybe then need reminded just where all this money is coming from. I think we need to take a one year break from giving foreign aid to most of these countries. I will bet it will greatly enhance their memory.
39 posted on 03/29/2007 6:54:57 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Well now I know where Rosie gets her whacko ideas.

As for hunger, I don't think hunger has been caused by low food production in over a century. Famine in the 20th century was typically caused by politics. Just ask the Ukrainians.

40 posted on 04/04/2007 5:56:30 AM PDT by magellan
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To: oldenuff2no
"The United States has no more responsibility to provide the world with cheap grain than Saudi Arabia does to supply us with cheap oil. We do not own the world anything."

Mark Muller and Richard Levins of the Institute for Agriculture and Policy Trade, point to evidence that we are net extractors of food from the Third World.

For example, many of the foods that we have encouraged (and sometimes forced) second and third world producers into growing for us are high value luxury foods, rather than traditional staple foods of that country.

Vandana Shiva, for example, has documented the large-scale replacement of traditional coastal rice farms with shrimp farms for the export market (Shiva, Stolen Harvest 23). Much of the best land in South America, Asia and Africa is now covered with coffee plantations, producing for export to wealthy nations. Suggesting that poor nations, who have now entirely adapted their agriculture and their land to grow food for rich nations should now live on their coffee and shrimp comes with some logistical problems at best. Some second and third world nations, like Brazil, which exports quite a lot of grain, or uses it for meat production for export, would be able to avoid hunger in this scenario, others would not.

Ethics of Biofuels by Sharon Astyk

41 posted on 04/04/2007 6:35:45 AM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

The US began dumping cheap corn on Mexican farmers and caused what? http://gristmill.grist.org/images/user/2988/oxfam_report_corn.pdf


42 posted on 04/04/2007 6:38:10 AM PDT by anglian
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The argument over energy used to make ethanol is moot in any case. It has enough environmental and economic negatives to bury it without that argument.
Moreover, every $1 of profits earned by ADM’s corn sweetener operation costs consumers $10, and every $1 of profits earned by its ethanol operation costs taxpaying suckers $30. Even if we were to produce 10%-20% of our fuel energy from biofuels, we reduce US reliance on OPEC oil to zero,
while using up our existing farmland, and the grain it produces. Add in the environmental degredation and it’s a clear loser. http://www.globalsubsidies.org/IMG/pdf/biofuels_subsidies_us.pdf


43 posted on 04/04/2007 7:04:58 AM PDT by anglian
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44 posted on 04/04/2007 7:14:11 AM PDT by anglian
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