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Missile Witnesses Needed Now - TWA 800
WorldNet Daily ^ | 29 March 2007 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/29/2007 11:25:45 AM PDT by Hal1950

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To: DCPatriot
Why would admitting it was a terrible accident of a training exercise gone awry be such a bad thing?

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So, you know that that's what it was? Please show us all your proof.

61 posted on 03/29/2007 12:33:18 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

I think Ron Brown was already eliminated when his plane hit a hillside in Yugoslavia causing a .45 sized hole to appear in his skull, but then if he had been alive, he might have been distraught to learn that his business partner was on TWA flight 800.


62 posted on 03/29/2007 12:39:54 PM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY CALENDARS ARE THE BEST WAY TO RID US OF THE CLINTONS!!!)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Such as an attack by Iraqi spec ops

And our Navy, which just happened to have a number of assets in the area, cut and ran instead of engaging them?

ML/NJ

63 posted on 03/29/2007 12:42:01 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

There was a small boat rented for cash by 3 men and the boat apparently was returned that same night because the owner found it returned the next morning.


64 posted on 03/29/2007 12:43:24 PM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY CALENDARS ARE THE BEST WAY TO RID US OF THE CLINTONS!!!)
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To: Stayfree

Thanks for the correction...


65 posted on 03/29/2007 12:43:25 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: UNGN
Has a Tomahawk EVER been fired at a moving target, let alone one 15,000 in the air, traveling at 400 mph?

Obviously not.

66 posted on 03/29/2007 12:44:25 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Stayfree

Care to join me in a copyright filing and subsequent script development?

I'm thinking Surnow ("24") might be interested...or Oliver Stone!


67 posted on 03/29/2007 12:45:19 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: hamboy
If the TWA800 crash was then caused by some spontaneous fuel combustion in the center fuel tank or some faulty wiring, according NTSB investigators, there would have been many more airplanes breaking up in flight.

There have been two other aircraft that have suffered spontaneous explosions in their center fuel tank. Both were Boeing 737's (the design of the center fuel tank on early model 737's [100-500] is identical to the early 747's) but they were both on the ground when it occurred so few people died and the incidents are largely unknown. TWA-800 conspiracy theorists simply ignore them since it doesn't fit their theory.

The first was a 737-3Y0 belonging to Philippine Airlines. The second was a Boeing 737-4D7 of Thai Airways International.

68 posted on 03/29/2007 12:48:56 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: hamboy
The older some still flying McDonnell-Douglas DC-3 (or military C-47) used high octane aviation gas while Boeing 747 use Jet A-1, a kerosene grade. How come there were no DC-3's crash caused by this spontaneous fuel combustion?

I'm not a aeronautical engineer, so I can't answer that question. What I can say is that the explanation provided by the NTSB better fits the facts than the missile theory.

No USN ship or plane would fire a missile of any sort (dummy or not) into commercial airlanes, especially when there was the possibility of an airliner blundering into the exercise area. But even if they had gone ahead and shot the missile and accidentally hit the TWA 800, they would have come out and said that there had been a tragic accident instead of trying to cover it up. But even if they had tried to cover it up, there would be literally hundreds if not thousands of people who knew what had really happened. One of those people would have come forward and blown the lid off of the cover up by now.

The other scenario, that it was a terrorist missile, is even less likely. Shoulder-launched missiles of the type that a terrorist could acquire are heat seekers meant to shoot down hot-running jet fighters, not cool-running commercial aircraft. There's no way that a terrorist standing on Long Island could hit an aircraft 10 miles out and 13,000 feet in the air. Even if he were standing in a boat (a very small boat that was invisible to radar 10 miles out in the ocean) directly underneath the plane, the missile would almost certainly miss a target traveling at 650 mph almost two miles in the air. And even if he, by some miracle, managed to hit the plane, it would have exploded near the hottest part of the plane, the engines, and not under the center fuselage.

But why would a terrorist go to all of that trouble when he had a hundred times the chance of hitting the airplane when it was taking off? Why not just wait across the highway and shoot at the plane when it's hotter from boosting and 1,000 feet in the air instead of 13,000?

Nothing about the missile theory tracks. No part of it makes any sense whatsoever.

69 posted on 03/29/2007 12:49:44 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: RDTF

The emphasis here is on the "Tomahawk missile", not the drone. How about the drone itself hitting the plane? One class of drones widely used was a former missile (can't remember the name).


70 posted on 03/29/2007 12:53:07 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: mgstarr
I'm sure Bush knows what happened...

Maybe. But you can rest assured that Slick Willy sure as heck does.

71 posted on 03/29/2007 1:07:04 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: Zeroisanumber

Much more likely IMO that it was a terrorist bomb planted under one of the seats over the main fuel tank.


72 posted on 03/29/2007 1:15:04 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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To: COEXERJ145

Yeap both incidents their fuel tank exploded while still in the ground. It didn't break the airplane into three pieces.


73 posted on 03/29/2007 1:16:23 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Much more likely IMO that it was a terrorist bomb planted under one of the seats over the main fuel tank.

That would have left scoring marks from superheated chemicals on the surrounding metal, nothing like that was ever found.

74 posted on 03/29/2007 1:19:05 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: hamboy

As usual you're twisting facts. Both aircraft were destroyed in the explosions. The only reason they didn't break up instantly is because they were on the ground. If they had been in the sky, they would have broken up just like N93119.


75 posted on 03/29/2007 1:21:34 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: Zeroisanumber
You're bringing in facts to a Free Republic TWA-800 thread.

Didn't anyone tell you that is against the rules? These threads are reserved for the arm chair aviation excepts and their X-Files type conspiracy theories.

76 posted on 03/29/2007 1:22:44 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: Zeroisanumber

I had read a copy of the NOTAM the area was cordoned due to military exercise. They picked the area to simulate interfences, radar returns, etc., from different airports in the surrounding area.


77 posted on 03/29/2007 1:22:51 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

Have you seen the test of what the explosion does to the main fuel tank?


78 posted on 03/29/2007 1:24:29 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: hamboy

Heat the fuel tanks up and put a spark in it and it will blow up.


79 posted on 03/29/2007 1:26:25 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Support your local EOD Detachment)
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To: hamboy
I had read a copy of the NOTAM the area was cordoned due to military exercise. They picked the area to simulate interfences, radar returns, etc., from different airports in the surrounding area.

That doesn't change the fact that they wouldn't have shot a missile with commercial airliners around. Radar tests are one thing, firing a missile in an area thick with civilian traffic is totally different. That's the kind of negligence that doesn't just get you cashiered; it gets you cashiered, beaten with broomhandles, and mauled by dogs before they even drag your sorry carcass before the courts martial.

There is no way that the USN would have shot down TWA 800 and then tried to cover it up. No way. The world and the Navy just don't work that way.

80 posted on 03/29/2007 1:32:42 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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