Posted on 03/29/2007 2:32:52 PM PDT by pissant
THE REPUBLICANS: THE THOMPSON THREAT
Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson poses a direct threat to Rudy Giuliani's substantial lead in the Republican presidential primary. If he gets in . . . it's bad news for Rudy.
The March 23-25 Gallup Poll shows surprising Republican support for Thompson. As an undeclared candidate, he is getting 12 points in a GOP match. And, almost all of his vote share is coming from either Giuliani and Romney. McCain and Gingrich are not affected at all!
Three weeks ago, Rudy was at 44 percent in the same poll — without Thompson. But now, with Thompson added, Rudy drops to 31 percent, and Romney goes from 8 percent to 3 percent.
So . . . if Fred Thompson decides to make the race, Mitt Romney might as well go home — since Fred eats his lunch and knocks him down to 3 percent of the vote. (It wouldn't be a bad idea for Mitt to go home anyway.) And, if Thompson runs, Giuliani will have to battle for his lead.
Why is Thompson so lethal to Rudy? Forget the left/right division; its not really applicable. What matters is media/nonmedia or charisma/noncharisma. Rudy and Fred are both television candidates. 9-11 vs Law and Order. America's Mayor faces America's prosecutor. Both have been intimately involved with the voters.
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Many of them have been posted here, by the usual suspects.
They'll try and hit him because they are afraid of him. I still think that Thompson and Newt should both run and let the people decide. The others won't have a chance. These two guys are serious and the dems are not going to want to mess with them. If they did run Hillary would be asking Bill for a cigar to get her mind off of the whole thing.
Newt running is a waste of money that could be used in a general election.
Now that there is an electable conservative in the race (Thompson), Newt should swallow his massive ego and endorse him.
Wow, and Thompson hasn't even declared yet.
When did he announce??? Oh, he didn't.
Grin ping!
What an alarmist you are. Looking in the mirror?
Did I post a Thompson hit piece? I kinda like him for veep.
"When did he announce??? Oh, he didn't."
Wink. Wink. Nudge.
When he annouces he'll have to give up his Paul Harvey gig. Maybe even Law & Order episodes go off.
He'll be the un-announced-announced candidate for a while.
It's work and he doesn't have the fire in the belly to stay in the fight.
No my dear, if memory serves, it's you who attacks other GOP candidates.
If memory fails, I apologize.
Sounds good to me. I just think he may be waiting too long.
I attack liberals. It's actually one of the main purposes of this website, if I recall.
This Thompson campaign is one unbelivable unstoppable train, alright. It's about as exciting as watching paint dry.
He won't enter probably til midsummer, if he even does. Never considered Dick Morris to be right wing. Moderate lefty, as I recall.
I disagree on name recognition. Do you ever listen to Hannity's "Man on the Street" interviews? Most people can't even name the Vice President or a Supreme Court justice. Name recognition is a VERY valuable commodity, which is why Duncan Hunter and Sam Brownback have no chance, period.
I'm sorry.. I will not vote for Thompson when Dobson doesn't support him.
*sarcasm*
Unfortunately, this is how some idiots vote.
He wants someone to say "action, cut, print" and waltz into the White House. Ain't gonna happen.
I said I attack libs, didn't I? Of course, I try to be relatively polite about it, since there are a few fans of his here.
I was refering to Newsmax. I didn't even look at the byline, to tell you the truth.
I'd be willing to bet Dobson is not all that popular here on FR. He's a non-entity to me.
Thank you for being so sweet. Really! I'm smiling and hoping we will beat the Dems in this battle. My best.
Dobson pretty well recanted/disputed that bit.
Yes. Newsmax is right leaning to be sure.
Me too. But that bridge is after the primaries. It will be here soon enough.
Don't get me wrong: if he's running, he'd vault ahead of my current (reluctant) #1, Rudy.
But it's all going to come down to this: the first guy to figure out that we want a FIGHTER will win, regardless of his position on many issues. We've seen six years' worth of conservatives (including people like Trent Lott and George Allen and Pete Dominici) bend over and grab their ankles when the Dems squeal. We've seen the horrible results of the "new tone." We've seen political appeasement in action. We have a House and Senate full of Chamberlains.
The first Churchill who stands up, wins, even if he's pro-abort, or whatever. Our side would rather fight and win on 30% of the issues and have the other 70% just sit there dormant than have a guy who is 100% true blue who won't fight.
Remember when Steve Forbes called Pat Robertson a "toothy flake?"I was rippied a new one for faithfully supporting Forbes.
I like a lot of family advice that Dobson has promoted but he seems to be venturing into the realm of "toothy flake" political postering. I didn't like it when he said Thompson wasn't "Christain."
Sad, sorry stuff.
No way. Did you see the Quinnipiac polls today? They polled Thompson and there is very little support for the guy. Meanwhile, Giuliani is outpolling Hillary and Obama in Pennsylvania and Florida. Republicans are not stupid. They fully understand that the first order of business is to win. Ideology is a secondary concern, especially after the 2006 fiasco.
The Thompson supporters are delusional. They think the guy is another Reagan. He doesn't have anywhere near the support, name recognition or popularity they think, but they are so desperate for a conservative to beat that no good gun grabbin', baby killin' cross dressin' librul RINO Giuliani that they would sell the entire country out to do it.
I think their backup plan is to back that guy from Weekend at Bernie's if Fred decides not to run.
Considering what Bush has accomplished even with a milquetoast GOP behind him, I'd take him for a third term right now.
Bump!!!
Actually, I think they agree with Rudy's policy ideas and record, they just can't admit it.
So the choice is: Rudy: gun grabbing, pro abort, pro gay, pro illegal immigration (& amnesty) RINO (republican in name only), from liberal NYC, or: a gun grabbing, pro abort, pro gay, pro illegal immigration liberal democrat from anywhere.
Hmmm... decisions, decisions, decisions...
Your insults are getting tiresome.
Agree with that. Wouldn't that freakin' send the Dems to the kool-aide pitchers?
Dr. Dobson should let the pols lead by their examples. Actions speak louder than words.
But as I say, it's all irrelevant: Rudy, Fred, Mitt---unless someone stands up and shows they will FIGHT the Dems across the board, maybe not on every issue, but pick several big fights and challenge them---it won't matter. Our side wants a fighter.
I hate to use this analogy, but it's almost like the superstar basketball player who is in trouble with the law. If he will bring a championship, after a while, people don't care what his rap sheet is. At some point, EVERYONE gets tired of getting kicked around.
I am not defecting from Rudy. Rudy never had my vote and will never get my vote. A lib is a lib. There's no way Rudy is fit to be President.
"Republicans are not stupid. They fully understand that the first order of business is to win."
You are very mistaken. Lots of Republicans have certian moral standards that Rudy doesn't even come close to matching.
I'll vote third party before I vote for Rudy.
What an alarmist you are. Looking in the mirror?
I haven't seen anyone posting "hit pieces" on Thompson. Most everyone has said they would vote for him if he got the nomination.
Were you born an a$$hole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an a$$hole tonight.
Yes you're an A $ $ H O L E...
And don't you try to blame it on me.
You deserve all the credit.
You're an a$$hole tonight.
You were an asshole yesterday.
You're an asshole tonight.
And I've got a feelin'
you'll be an asshole the rest of your life.
a, It's Dick Morris.
b, He's talking about polls, 20 months before the election.
c, The poll takes Obama seriously.
I don't think that's really true. I think Thompson has a different approach. Although decidedly conservative, he doesn't "present" himself as a strict ideologue. Doesn't mean he's NOT one, but he doesn't PRESENT himself as such. His manner is more of a no-nonsense, common-man approach to the issue, a variation on the way Reagan articulated himself. I think it's a winning formula.
I mean, he's told Mexico where to shove it. He's told Iran where to shove it. And he's pointed out some silly conspiracy theories. Just on Harvey. On other appearences, I think he's done well to express his conservatism.
His very existence on FR has gotten extremely tiresome.
Re post 45, I suspect that the fella's right.
Didn't Thompson support McCain Feingold? Why is he getting a pass on this?
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