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Why No One Wants to Crack the Health Care Walnut
American Thinker ^ | March 28, 2007 | Geoffrey P. Hunt

Posted on 03/29/2007 4:58:45 PM PDT by neverdem

A few days ago I had dinner with friends from a boutique actuarial services firm. After some chit chat, we soon turned to health care costs, health insurance and, as one would expect in the small talk lexicon of actuaries, mortality tables.

Soon enough we all agreed that the notion of health care insurance these days is both misleading and a misnomer. Because life expectancies are now in the 80s-in fact someone with average health at age 65 can expect to live until age 90-the probability that any one of us will die without having at least one prolonged expensive disease-cancer, heart disease, diabetes, arthritis-is virtually zero.

We are all familiar with the usual insurance underwriting risks-a boiler explosion, a house fire, car accident, crop failure.  Insurance underwriters routinely calculate the probability of an infrequent but potentially catastrophic event to price the reimbursement for the accompanying unwelcome financial loss.   They will even price happy probabilities, such as hole-in-one insurance, paid by a charity golf outing sponsor, for that one chance in a zillion where the proud owner of a lucky stroke could win a new Cadillac.

But as the probability of having an expensive or catastrophic event approaches certainty, the insurance premium quickly approximates the actual financial cost of a claim. This is what has happened to health care cost and why the talk of health care insurance is silly. The economics of health care are no longer a matter of "who"  "if" and "how much". Instead it is about "when" and "who will pay".

Despite all of the attempts at managed care, consumer driven health care, variable usage pricing and other failed schemes-- benefiting only the health care consultants who conjure up such ineffective cures-- costs are still climbing at double digit growth rates, resistant to any and all broad spectrum antibiotics. The health care Don Quixotes still cling to the noble but elusive whim that reducing probabilities through behavior modification can drive down claims and cost.  

Fat chance.  For all of the blathering over tax deductibility, health savings accounts, single payer systems, employer mandates--it's the same chatter: either budgeting the inevitable costs that can't be avoided or shifting the cost burden from one gored ox to another.

Why is this health care walnut so hard to crack? Well, the answer is pretty obvious. We don't want to crack it. Consider the four non-negotiable demands we insist be in place for our health care system:

Any chance on the horizon to dismantle at least one of these four health care mandates?  Not before an asteroid parks itself along Hollywood Boulevard. And so we might as well accept the reality that health care has become a de facto right, a public good to be enjoyed by all and should be financed just like every other public entitlement.  Oh, and don't expect health care costs to behave any better either. As P.J. O'Rourke quipped,
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free."
Who has the political muscle and the willpower to take a nutcracker out of the drawer and use it?

Geoffrey P. Hunt is a senior executive in a multinational electronics company.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: healthcare
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To: daviddennis
I don't think any doctors mow lawns on the side, not because they are not poor but because mowing lawns pays even worse than medicine. Baseline labor is about 200 pesos (US$ 4) a day plus 50 pesos ($1) for lunch.

I meant if you paid them here on the scale of what Filippino doctors earn in their country, they'd be mowing lawns on the side (or they wouldn't have gone into medicine in the first place). Check out their overhead costs, their malpractice insurance costs, not to mention their student loans. Your average GP here isn't rolling in dough. Some of the specialists perhaps, but the doctors I know live in the same quarters on base as others of their rank. A doctor lives on our street, a geriatric specialist. We share the street with a gardener, a lawyer, a flight attendant, a caterer, and a cop (among many others - i.e., it's hardly beachfront property, very middle class). Most homes are in the 1800- 2000 sq. ft. range on 5000 sq ft lots.

So is the doc on our street living high on the hog? How far down in the ghetto do you want him to live?

41 posted on 03/30/2007 11:22:15 AM PDT by Spyder (Dysrudybot - someone stricken with HGS, or Hate Giuliani Syndrome. Incurable.)
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To: Spyder

I'm not asking anyone to live in the ghetto.

I am simply saying that I'd rather not pay $100,000 for an operation, and wondering why on earth I should be asked to.

It actually irks me that, despite these outrageous fees, nobody appears to be getting rich off them. Doctors probably got very little of the outrageous fees I paid, nurses don't make that much, and hospitals are going bust. So where is the money going? Who IS getting rich off of these fees?

If the money all goes to lawyers and insurance companies, I'd rather have my care done in another country, where a higher percentage goes to those who actually do the work. In extremis, I could buy my own equipment and set up my own hospital for less than what it takes to do one operation here!

That was my point.

Does that make more sense?

D


42 posted on 03/30/2007 12:20:13 PM PDT by daviddennis (If you like my stuff, please visit amazing.com, my new social networking site!)
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To: Fairview
She hasn't got an itemized statement.

43 posted on 03/30/2007 2:11:22 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Spyder

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by "doc in the box" - I consider my "doc in the box" the doctor I go to, if I absolutely HAVE to go for a referral, or generic medication, or something to get non-specialist advice on, i.e. ear infection.....I do NOT go to her for other major issues....she's useless.


44 posted on 03/30/2007 3:16:09 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: William Terrell
She hasn't got an itemized statement.

OK, now I'm really confused. I never heard of anyone not on Medicaid, or a member of an HMO, who went to the hospital and didn't get an itemized billing statement. Are you saying that a representative of the hospital's business office just said to her at discharge, "You owe us $11000," without specifying in writing what she owes it for? She needs to get a properly itemized statement (which will run to many pages) before she writes any checks. And believe me, her insurance carrier will have an itemized statement before it processes any claims.

45 posted on 03/30/2007 5:36:26 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: goodnesswins

Hospitals have to charge ins. cos. and those who can pay enough so they can cover expenses for the ones who can't pay. Those and malpractice ins. costs are most of what you paid for.

Why didn't you go to a walk-in clinic? I know those aren't available everywhere, but they are a good deal where they are. I wouldn't use one for a serious illness, but I do use them for routine problems. They're cheap, for sure.


46 posted on 03/30/2007 6:16:33 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Publius Valerius

Emergency rooms and hospitals are an expensive way to treat people. Many areas of the country have low cost clinics. I'd prefer to subsidize the low cost clinics than to treat people in expensive facilities. The co-pays in the clinics are usually low so that people who need treatment for minor illnesses can get it, but it's not free, so people who have flu aren't tempted to seek medical care.

Anything short of making people responsible for their own health is going to be too expensive.


47 posted on 03/30/2007 6:23:29 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout

Because it was Sunday and it was closed.....and my husband was driving, I was hurting and trying to keep from gushing blood.....minor little details.


48 posted on 03/30/2007 9:28:43 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: Fairview
Hell, I don't know. She asked the insurance carrier how much the total cost was. She hasn't gotten a itmeized bill to date. What can I tell you?

49 posted on 03/30/2007 9:37:56 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Spyder
"The reason it's cheaper in India,....." There's the answer, right there. Medical tourism. A new form of competition. In 25 years, most big procedures will be done overseas.
50 posted on 03/30/2007 10:05:54 PM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's the ticket.)
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To: Spyder
"You got out in an hour? Wow! They must not have been that busy that day. Nonetheless, they had to have sufficient staff available to cover an onslaught of 5 or 10 patients at the same time (or more, depending on the ER).

Wow, 10 patients simultaneously at $1100/hour = $11,000/hour X 24 = $254,000/day X 365 = $95 Million a year PLUS all the community and taxpayer donations buying the building and lots of equipment, Just for the ER!

51 posted on 03/30/2007 10:17:42 PM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's the ticket.)
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To: Fairview
"OK, now I'm really confused. I never heard of anyone not on Medicaid, or a member of an HMO, who went to the hospital and didn't get an itemized billing statement. "

But much of the "itemization" is often in code or language unfamiliar to a non-professional. I did not understand at all what most of the "tems" were.

I'm sure I made them very PO'd, but if they haven't the time to write a paragraph explaining why I was charged $300 for this or #450 for that, then I haven't the time to bother writing them a check.

52 posted on 03/30/2007 10:25:35 PM PDT by cookcounty (No journalist ever won a prize for reporting facts. --Telling big stories? Now that's the ticket.)
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To: neverdem
Healthcare delivered through private enterprise would fix the problem.

Consider LASIK eye surgery. That is a medical prodecure that is handled somewhat through the market place. Since it's been done that way, it's become routine, the quality has improved, and the prices have fallen.

If that can be done for eye surgery, there's no reason it can't be done for knee surgery or heart surgery or any other medical prodecure -- other than people, who have a disdain for the marketplace, standing in the way of it.

53 posted on 03/30/2007 10:25:55 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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To: cookcounty

Very good point. Most bills have a code plus a few words describing the procedure done, and some of it is easy to understand--"99254, inpatient consult"--but others are incomprehensible to the lay person, to wit: "80061, hepatic function panel." On a long statement for an inpatient stay that may run to many pages even in its abbreviated form, there couldn't possibly be space to explain just why the doctor ordered a particular test and what its purpose might be. And that's why it's necessary to be very attentive in reading any medical bill you have to pay. Your insurance carrier reads them pretty carefully and determines if the codes are appropriate for your disease.

I've seen some bills that were very humane and easy to understand, and on the backs of many ER bills there are clear explanations of what was done and why.


54 posted on 03/31/2007 9:07:32 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: B-Chan
It is not fair to require the haves to pay for the have-nots' health care, but the alternative is to allow the have-nots and their kids to die in the streets, and we have decided that isn't going to be allowed to happen here in the U.S.

For a supposedly "Christian" nation, we sure spend a lot of money upholding the atheist principle that the death of the body is the end of existence. The health-care crisis is as much a symbol of spiritual lack as anything else.

For what it's worth, Chinese herbal medicine and meditation techniques work about as well as all of the expensive Western technology, at a much lower cost. Neither will stave off death, in the end, but spending millions in an attempt to avoid the inevitable is the mark of an irrational society.

55 posted on 03/31/2007 9:31:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Dave Olson
other than people, who have a disdain for the marketplace, standing in the way of it.


56 posted on 03/31/2007 11:53:42 AM PDT by FreeKeys ("Once Hillary is elected she will create a new form of secret police."- Dick Morris (her ex-employee)
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