UP...!!!
Posted on 03/30/2007 6:12:36 PM PDT by Jeff Head
It's time that historical perspective and precedent, as well as toe to toe squaring off against a tyrant are applied in the Persian Gulf IMHO. As Teddy Roosevelt showed us, and has been shown coutless times since, one must stand up to tyrants and make them fear for their lives when they begin their bullying and tyranical ways.
So, Iran, the options are simple and the full might of the UK and her allies, principally the United States, should stand behind a direct statement like this...
72 Hours. Faye Turney and the other UK personnel alive...or Ahmadinejad dead!
But their safety cannot be purchased, indeed it MUST not be purchased, at the cost of emboldening an abject tyrant to run amok, unchecked and become a force that will threaten and kill millions more later.
FYI
Our old "friends" at the old kgb used to give great heart attacks for a living. Why marter the son of a snake, when a stroke or heart attack works better!
Short response: Bump!
While Tony Blair is no Margeret Thatcher, he is definitely no Sunny Jim Callahan. Don't ever underestimate Britain. Galteiri of Argentina did in 1982.
I wish YOU'D run for President. You'd win, hands down.
Prayers for the Brits...and all of us.
If memory serves, we still owe them a one-way ticket to the revelation that Mohammed lied to them.
Tough talk doesn't happen any more. Not from the West, anyway.
Heck, Dr. Rice is in the ME now giving away as much of the Israeli land holdings as she can to the Palestinians.
Blair has already waited too long to 'act'. That window closed days ago. Now, all he can do is seek terms to negotiate, either direct or through the UN.
None of our leradership has the guts. And for that reason we will all pay a terrible price.
The leaders of the free world are a bunch of chickens.
Our heavyweights could give Iran a knock out blow in round one and we wouldn't have to worry about them for many many years. We may just have to kill some good people in Iran to save some better people in the free world.
Come on leaders. QUIT BEING FRIGGIN CHICKENS!!
Otherwise, as you say, we shall all pay dearly for this coddling and emboldening.
I don't think it's chicken... as much as waiting to see what the Iranians plan, and slowly ratcheting up the pressure to make them give up the prisoners. My own response would be to capture and hold Iran's oil platforms in the Gulf and release them only when the prisoners are released. That should be a step taken soon.
If we come in after President IwannaMakeJihad...the leading Mullahs will iknow intrinsically, in the pits of their gut, that we are coming for them too.
And in that case, it had the desired effect.
For decades thereafter, no tin horn would mess with American citizens around the world without knowing they were doing so at the peril of their very lives.
Time for that class to once again be in session so these tin horns can learn that lesson again.
Looks like they tried to grab some American soldiers.
Enemies are becoming embolden but they still know our Navy and our soldiers will fire back at them. Nonetheless, that is not helped when smugglers and criminals on our own border fire upon and chase off our own national guard from their duties.
IMHO, it's time we held class on these very fundamental lessons again.
Mine as well.
UP...!!!
I am for any action as long as it isn't "talks" or "negotiations". Iran kept our embassy hostages for almost two years and used the world stage to build up resistance to the west. They were able to hold off the great satan and that provided the inspiration for jihad all over.
No talks. Action. And no restraint.
Taking their oil platforms would probably send oil over 75.00 a barrell for awhile. I don't mind paying the price if something is actually accomplished because oil prices will go much lower if the situation in the ME is stabilized and Iran neutralized.
We'll see what happens. Perhaps we will see what Tony Blair is made of.
You are so right, the time for attention getting shock and awe action has indeed passed....now the Brits and the U.S. are reduced to begging the Iranian lunatics to let the soldiers go.
Unless something decisive happens tomorrow..I think that there will be kidnappings galore since nothing bad ever happens to the terrorists except that Condi declares that this is a "troubling" turn of events....but "fortunately" the diplomatic avenues are still open.....(Ohhhhh God spare us)
Political correctness and liberalism have just about done us in....and the cowards in our 'rat congress are driving the last nails as we speak.
Replay the videos of Saddam's hanging for the Iranians; tell them directly that unless they release the British hostages, their mullahs and leadership will soon be partying with Saddam and Satan in Hell like it's 1979.
Especially the 'snap, crackle, pop' part of it.
Including a DVD or VCR of Saddam's hanging with the simply stated message above would be a fine and worthy diplomatic gesture.
Thanks for the ping!
Thanks Jeff. Say, what's with the Shettites showing Faye Turney smoking? What are they trying to prove? This was weird.
"One more thing—this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors—so I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron... — backhoe at Free Republic
"...It's time we recognized the nature of the conflict. It's total war and we are all involved. Nobody on our side is exempted because of age, gender, or handicap. The Islamofacists have stolen childhood from the world." [FReeper Retief]
"...That the totalitarian force pitted against freedom wears a religious makes this civil war among mankind all the more difficult to engage. Loving freedom as we do, it seems reprehensible to deliberate against a religion. But this is no ordinary religion as it demands absolute obedience of all to their religion at the cost of freedom itself." [FReeper Backtothestreets]
God help them.
Indeed, God help us all.
Is it true that the Brits were told to stand down; not to fire on the approaching Iranians? I never heard that part of it until tonight, although I wondered how they were taken so easily.
it's time for the war with Iran to start sir.
we need to stop fooling around .
I hope they give us a wee little excuse to totally clean their
clock.
may the ghost of Ronald Reagan please whisper in our dear leader's ear each night.
The Wind and the Lion is one of my favorite movies.
Faye was even filmed smoking during the capture at sea. The girl must be a tobacco fiend. I wonder if the Iranians get her to write all those bizarro letters by holding back on her cigarettes? Maybe more severe torture isn't necessary.
The HMS Cornwalls was near by, but apparently ROEs said they had to contact London for permission to fire. The word came back to hold fire.
This has been aloong time coming and this President of theirs has been right in the thick of it since 79. We already have all the reasons and excuse we need...they are killing our boys in Iraq...and now this.
Did you check the backdrop patterns at Evin against the ones seen behind the male soldier in his video comments? I didn't get a chance to. I get the feeling they are all actually being held in Evin, even though everyone keeps saying they must be separated by now to prevent a group rescue attempt. I think the Iranians feel invincible on this and don't fear a commando raid.
But in this instance, should the UK act, it will have to be with our full backing and support. They've been there strong since 911, and were there with Thatcher through the Soviet crisis. I know we will be there now for them...and well we should because taking down the mullah regime is in both of our immediate and long term best interest.
It is high time to draw forth the sword of war against Iran.
In the meantime ,please be aware that tomorrow is the 2nd annual Rally Against Ismalofascism Day
Check it out here : http://www.unitedamericancommittee.org/
and think about attending a rally if you can.
They looked pink to me. Did they to you? I haven't found any photos of pink floral. Evin would be very difficult to get into and there are many sections. 209 is a possibility. Evin is not just a prison. Intelligence Ministry is there also. But it is certainly possible they are in separate facilities. There are other known prisons in and around Tehran.
They should kill him even if he lets them go.
BUMP!
May God have mercy...on the captives. As for the those holding them..they are captives of the Evil One.
United Kingdom's finest BUMP! Trickle down annihilation does work.
Thanks for the info, Jeff.
The UK should make it clear that it is not a commando raid that they should fear. IMHO, it should be made clear that it is their President and ruling Mullahs who should be fearing for their lives.
Big ol' Bump!!!
Yeah, I just went back to that one site you had linked a couple of days ago - nothing in those patterns matches up...
Wow. She must be a chimney. I thought there was some cynical reason for the Iranians to picture her with a cigarette. Unreal
The leaders of the free world are a bunch of chickens.
Our heavyweights could give Iran a knock out blow in round one and we wouldn't have to worry about them for many many years. We may just have to kill some good people in Iran to save some better people in the free world.
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Many of us agree with these words of yours. We bombed Japan and now it's a civil country. We should learn from our past. I'm tired of wimps and politically correct leaders in the West.... If we don't wake up we're doomed to Burkas.
Let's get a mean SOB in there... Giuliani.
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