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Faye Turney and the other UK personnel alive...or Ahmadinejad dead!
HERE ON FR | 30 MArch 2007 | Jeff Head

Posted on 03/30/2007 6:12:36 PM PDT by Jeff Head

It's time that historical perspective and precedent, as well as toe to toe squaring off against a tyrant are applied in the Persian Gulf IMHO. As Teddy Roosevelt showed us, and has been shown coutless times since, one must stand up to tyrants and make them fear for their lives when they begin their bullying and tyranical ways.

So, Iran, the options are simple and the full might of the UK and her allies, principally the United States, should stand behind a direct statement like this...

72 Hours. Faye Turney and the other UK personnel alive...or Ahmadinejad dead!


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God bless those taken by these tyrants, and God defend and vouchsafe our liberty and way of life. Indeed may God preserve those sailors and marines through the strength of our liberty and convictions to it, and may He comfort their loved ones through the ordeal, whichever way it turns.

But their safety cannot be purchased, indeed it MUST not be purchased, at the cost of emboldening an abject tyrant to run amok, unchecked and become a force that will threaten and kill millions more later.

1 posted on 03/30/2007 6:12:38 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; RobFromGa; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; jim macomber; ...

FYI


2 posted on 03/30/2007 6:13:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head; All

Our old "friends" at the old kgb used to give great heart attacks for a living. Why marter the son of a snake, when a stroke or heart attack works better!


3 posted on 03/30/2007 6:15:48 PM PDT by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: Jeff Head

Short response: Bump!


4 posted on 03/30/2007 6:16:41 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Jeff Head

While Tony Blair is no Margeret Thatcher, he is definitely no Sunny Jim Callahan. Don't ever underestimate Britain. Galteiri of Argentina did in 1982.


5 posted on 03/30/2007 6:18:51 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Jeff Head

I wish YOU'D run for President. You'd win, hands down.

Prayers for the Brits...and all of us.


6 posted on 03/30/2007 6:18:56 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Jeff Head
You forgot to add the Mad Mullahs that actually run the show to the "dead" list.

If memory serves, we still owe them a one-way ticket to the revelation that Mohammed lied to them.

7 posted on 03/30/2007 6:20:58 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe.)
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To: Jeff Head

Tough talk doesn't happen any more. Not from the West, anyway.

Heck, Dr. Rice is in the ME now giving away as much of the Israeli land holdings as she can to the Palestinians.

Blair has already waited too long to 'act'. That window closed days ago. Now, all he can do is seek terms to negotiate, either direct or through the UN.


8 posted on 03/30/2007 6:21:10 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jeff Head

None of our leradership has the guts. And for that reason we will all pay a terrible price.


9 posted on 03/30/2007 6:22:08 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Jeff Head

The leaders of the free world are a bunch of chickens.

Our heavyweights could give Iran a knock out blow in round one and we wouldn't have to worry about them for many many years. We may just have to kill some good people in Iran to save some better people in the free world.

Come on leaders. QUIT BEING FRIGGIN CHICKENS!!


10 posted on 03/30/2007 6:27:11 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Noumenon
I fear my friend, that you are right...and yet hope and pray that you are wrong and that someone appears on the scene who will have the virtue and the strength do what must be done.

Otherwise, as you say, we shall all pay dearly for this coddling and emboldening.

11 posted on 03/30/2007 6:28:39 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: o_zarkman44

I don't think it's chicken... as much as waiting to see what the Iranians plan, and slowly ratcheting up the pressure to make them give up the prisoners. My own response would be to capture and hold Iran's oil platforms in the Gulf and release them only when the prisoners are released. That should be a step taken soon.


12 posted on 03/30/2007 6:29:33 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: steveegg

If we come in after President IwannaMakeJihad...the leading Mullahs will iknow intrinsically, in the pits of their gut, that we are coming for them too.


13 posted on 03/30/2007 6:30:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GAB-1955
We may yet do that...and I hope we do something. but, if it were me, I'd take it right home to the top of the list, just like TR did.

And in that case, it had the desired effect.

For decades thereafter, no tin horn would mess with American citizens around the world without knowing they were doing so at the peril of their very lives.

Time for that class to once again be in session so these tin horns can learn that lesson again.

14 posted on 03/30/2007 6:33:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Have you seen this article

A Deadly U.S.-Iran Firefight

Looks like they tried to grab some American soldiers.

15 posted on 03/30/2007 6:33:16 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold
I have read about that.

Enemies are becoming embolden but they still know our Navy and our soldiers will fire back at them. Nonetheless, that is not helped when smugglers and criminals on our own border fire upon and chase off our own national guard from their duties.

IMHO, it's time we held class on these very fundamental lessons again.

16 posted on 03/30/2007 6:35:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
IMHO, it's time we held class on these very fundamental lessons again.

Mine as well.

17 posted on 03/30/2007 6:41:28 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jeff Head
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18 posted on 03/30/2007 6:52:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: GAB-1955

I am for any action as long as it isn't "talks" or "negotiations". Iran kept our embassy hostages for almost two years and used the world stage to build up resistance to the west. They were able to hold off the great satan and that provided the inspiration for jihad all over.
No talks. Action. And no restraint.
Taking their oil platforms would probably send oil over 75.00 a barrell for awhile. I don't mind paying the price if something is actually accomplished because oil prices will go much lower if the situation in the ME is stabilized and Iran neutralized.


19 posted on 03/30/2007 6:54:11 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Jeff Head

We'll see what happens. Perhaps we will see what Tony Blair is made of.


20 posted on 03/30/2007 7:06:17 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: TomGuy
Sadly, it appears that Iran will get what they whant...whatever the hell that is.

You are so right, the time for attention getting shock and awe action has indeed passed....now the Brits and the U.S. are reduced to begging the Iranian lunatics to let the soldiers go.

Unless something decisive happens tomorrow..I think that there will be kidnappings galore since nothing bad ever happens to the terrorists except that Condi declares that this is a "troubling" turn of events....but "fortunately" the diplomatic avenues are still open.....(Ohhhhh God spare us)

Political correctness and liberalism have just about done us in....and the cowards in our 'rat congress are driving the last nails as we speak.

21 posted on 03/30/2007 7:24:23 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Jeff Head
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."

Replay the videos of Saddam's hanging for the Iranians; tell them directly that unless they release the British hostages, their mullahs and leadership will soon be partying with Saddam and Satan in Hell like it's 1979.

22 posted on 03/30/2007 7:24:56 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: rabscuttle385; Jeff Head
"Replay the videos of Saddam's hanging for the Iranians; . . . "

Especially the 'snap, crackle, pop' part of it.

23 posted on 03/30/2007 7:29:50 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: rabscuttle385

Including a DVD or VCR of Saddam's hanging with the simply stated message above would be a fine and worthy diplomatic gesture.


24 posted on 03/30/2007 7:50:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 03/30/2007 8:00:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks Jeff. Say, what's with the Shettites showing Faye Turney smoking? What are they trying to prove? This was weird.


26 posted on 03/30/2007 8:05:16 PM PDT by Gracey (Giuliani vs Hillary?)
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27 posted on 03/30/2007 8:08:00 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Jeff Head

God help them.

Indeed, God help us all.


29 posted on 03/30/2007 8:25:17 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Liberals embrace the sin......Christians embrace the sinner.)
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To: Jeff Head

Is it true that the Brits were told to stand down; not to fire on the approaching Iranians? I never heard that part of it until tonight, although I wondered how they were taken so easily.


30 posted on 03/30/2007 8:38:15 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Jeff Head

it's time for the war with Iran to start sir.

we need to stop fooling around .

I hope they give us a wee little excuse to totally clean their
clock.

may the ghost of Ronald Reagan please whisper in our dear leader's ear each night.


31 posted on 03/30/2007 8:43:40 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jeff Head
Agreement and support PING!

The Wind and the Lion is one of my favorite movies.

32 posted on 03/30/2007 8:46:45 PM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ "The objective is to get the liberals to cave to our premises." Gen Limbaugh)
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To: Gracey

Faye was even filmed smoking during the capture at sea. The girl must be a tobacco fiend. I wonder if the Iranians get her to write all those bizarro letters by holding back on her cigarettes? Maybe more severe torture isn't necessary.


33 posted on 03/30/2007 8:51:44 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: sageb1
They had a helo near by that got called away for a while. It was called back when the boarding parties began to give warning, but upon arrival the two small boats were already surrounded.

The HMS Cornwalls was near by, but apparently ROEs said they had to contact London for permission to fire. The word came back to hold fire.

34 posted on 03/30/2007 8:51:50 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: LeoWindhorse

This has been aloong time coming and this President of theirs has been right in the thick of it since 79. We already have all the reasons and excuse we need...they are killing our boys in Iraq...and now this.


35 posted on 03/30/2007 8:53:08 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Teddy Roosevelt; The Barbary pirates (or now Somalia and Iran) haven't changed, Jeff......we have.

Problem with this situation is that it's the Brits vs the Iranians. Had it been a US crew, the DD would have responded and sent the raiders to Davy Jones.
36 posted on 03/30/2007 8:54:23 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: sageb1

Did you check the backdrop patterns at Evin against the ones seen behind the male soldier in his video comments? I didn't get a chance to. I get the feeling they are all actually being held in Evin, even though everyone keeps saying they must be separated by now to prevent a group rescue attempt. I think the Iranians feel invincible on this and don't fear a commando raid.


37 posted on 03/30/2007 8:56:15 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: BIGLOOK
You are correct.

But in this instance, should the UK act, it will have to be with our full backing and support. They've been there strong since 911, and were there with Thatcher through the Soviet crisis. I know we will be there now for them...and well we should because taking down the mullah regime is in both of our immediate and long term best interest.

38 posted on 03/30/2007 9:00:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
yes sir, and now this....

It is high time to draw forth the sword of war against Iran.

In the meantime ,please be aware that tomorrow is the 2nd annual Rally Against Ismalofascism Day
Check it out here : http://www.unitedamericancommittee.org/
and think about attending a rally if you can.

39 posted on 03/30/2007 9:02:24 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LikeLight

They looked pink to me. Did they to you? I haven't found any photos of pink floral. Evin would be very difficult to get into and there are many sections. 209 is a possibility. Evin is not just a prison. Intelligence Ministry is there also. But it is certainly possible they are in separate facilities. There are other known prisons in and around Tehran.


40 posted on 03/30/2007 9:06:51 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Jeff Head

They should kill him even if he lets them go.


41 posted on 03/30/2007 9:09:32 PM PDT by Hildy (Too err is human, to moo...bovine.)
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To: Jeff Head

BUMP!

May God have mercy...on the captives. As for the those holding them..they are captives of the Evil One.


42 posted on 03/30/2007 9:10:51 PM PDT by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Jeff Head

United Kingdom's finest BUMP! Trickle down annihilation does work.


43 posted on 03/30/2007 9:12:34 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the info, Jeff.


44 posted on 03/30/2007 9:13:13 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: LikeLight

The UK should make it clear that it is not a commando raid that they should fear. IMHO, it should be made clear that it is their President and ruling Mullahs who should be fearing for their lives.


45 posted on 03/30/2007 9:17:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Big ol' Bump!!!


46 posted on 03/30/2007 9:18:38 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Jeff Head
I would hate to be a british soldier considering how little they care about their personnel.
47 posted on 03/30/2007 9:23:03 PM PDT by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: sageb1

Yeah, I just went back to that one site you had linked a couple of days ago - nothing in those patterns matches up...


48 posted on 03/30/2007 9:31:13 PM PDT by LikeLight (tagline expired - do you wish to renew?)
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To: LikeLight

Wow. She must be a chimney. I thought there was some cynical reason for the Iranians to picture her with a cigarette. Unreal


49 posted on 03/30/2007 9:46:22 PM PDT by Gracey (Giuliani vs Hillary?)
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To: o_zarkman44

The leaders of the free world are a bunch of chickens.

Our heavyweights could give Iran a knock out blow in round one and we wouldn't have to worry about them for many many years. We may just have to kill some good people in Iran to save some better people in the free world.
----
Many of us agree with these words of yours. We bombed Japan and now it's a civil country. We should learn from our past. I'm tired of wimps and politically correct leaders in the West.... If we don't wake up we're doomed to Burkas.

Let's get a mean SOB in there... Giuliani.


50 posted on 03/30/2007 9:49:18 PM PDT by Gracey (Giuliani vs Hillary?)
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