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The Coulter Hoax: How Ann Coulter Exposed the Intelligent Design Movement
Talk Reason (from Skeptical Inquirer) ^ | March 14, 2007 | Peter Olofsson

Posted on 03/31/2007 1:48:09 PM PDT by EveningStar

In the summer of 2006, I heard that a new book called Godless presented an insightful and devastating criticism of the theory of evolution. Although I learned that its author, Ann Coulter, is not a scientist but a lawyer turned author and TV pundit, she nevertheless appeared to be an intelligent and well-educated person, so I started reading. At first I was puzzled. There did not seem to be anything new; only tired and outdated antievolution arguments involving moths, finches, and fruit flies. But it wasn't until Coulter dusted off the old Piltdown man story that I suddenly realized: it was a hoax! And it was brilliant...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; antifreepers; antiscience; coulter; creation; creationism; creationistwhinefest; cutnpaste; evolution; evolutionism; fsmdidit; hogwash; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; skankybitch; textdump
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To: AntiGuv
"Mr. Olofsson is either himself satirizing Coulter"

Yes.

61 posted on 03/31/2007 3:15:46 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Jo Nuvark
This is satire - he is pretending that Coulter is satirizing ID in her book when he knows full well it was written as a serious defense of ID aimed at just these types of readers:

"It is unfortunate that some people are so insecure in their faith that they fear their own intellects, especially as the concept of man's free choice is central in Christian theology, making it perfectly logical that God has created the world so that we can explain it without assuming Him as a hypothesis."

62 posted on 03/31/2007 3:17:08 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: EveningStar

I say I just don't care but I'll look at the pictures.


63 posted on 03/31/2007 3:17:12 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: EveningStar

Ann's writing on evolution is satire. That is what Ann does. She writes satire. This is obvious to all but those she poking fun at. If does not matter if she is poking fun at the "witches of Eastwick" or ID. It is all satire. That is what makes Ann so great (besides being beautiful).


64 posted on 03/31/2007 3:18:44 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much government. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: protest1
Here are some better links for the thinkers.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

http://www.icr.org


I posted a link to a website which is based on science. Your links lead to websites based on apologetics, not science.

But since you mention the Institute for Creation Research, check out their Tenets of Scientific Creationism (excerpts below).

They are doing pure apologetics, not science.


Tenets of Scientific Creationism


65 posted on 03/31/2007 3:20:06 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: EveningStar

"Sokal was disturbed by the sloppily antiscientific, postmodernistic mentality that had started to replace reason and rationality within the academic left and ingeniously made his point by managing to get his nonsense article published by the very people he wished to expose."


Sounds like this guy's got a case of projection to me.


66 posted on 03/31/2007 3:21:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: highlander_UW
I thought the article was about ID...you appear to think it's about creationists. Was there 2 articles?


What is intelligent design?

It's the missing link between creationism and religious instruction masquerading as biology.

Bruce Bower, Science News, vol. 168 (Nos 26 & 27), 2006, p. 414.


67 posted on 03/31/2007 3:22:15 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Screamname
There are bigger and more folded brains... but there may be something more on the level of interconnectivity.

However, I see now reason why evolution could not take the brain to a level where it can generate or attract a soul.

68 posted on 03/31/2007 3:24:06 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (WWGD -- What would Groucho do?)
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To: K4Harty
When they start reading what's out there about c14 dating methods...

I do a lot of radiocarbon dating.

Do you have any specific problems you can share with us?

69 posted on 03/31/2007 3:25:25 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: K4Harty
Long time no see C-man. Part of it's my fault, I've pretty much stayed away from the CREVO threads. :o)

Hope all is well.

Thank you for the kind comments.

These threads have changed a lot in the past few months since a lot of the science-oriented folks gave up and left, but I'm still hanging on!

70 posted on 03/31/2007 3:27:48 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: EveningStar

Ann Coulter = leanest meanest RINO exposer.. RINOs are really democrats in drag.. Liberals could care less about AC but RINOS despise her..


71 posted on 03/31/2007 3:32:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

Actually, I'd say liberals pretty much despise her as much as anyone.


72 posted on 03/31/2007 3:35:16 PM PDT by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-troe"...in 2008.)
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To: WOSG

Plenty of time for changes, But that is beside the point. Change from what to what? Do you believe in the concept of species? Darwin was talking about changes in forms, but are the forms real or simply a matter of appearances? The debate is really philosophical, and it has been going on since the time of the Greeks.


73 posted on 03/31/2007 3:37:06 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: pcottraux
[ Actually, I'd say liberals pretty much despise her as much as anyone. ]

Ann Coulter is an equal opportunity traitor basher whether democrat or RINO..

74 posted on 03/31/2007 3:37:09 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

It's actually kind of funny to watch. The Left and RINOs HATE this woman so much...it's like they feel so threatened by her. They are foaming-at-the-mouth insane over Ann and the things she says. Like I said...it's actually kind of amusing.


75 posted on 03/31/2007 3:40:11 PM PDT by pcottraux (Fred Thompson pronounces it "P. Coe-troe"...in 2008.)
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To: Coyoteman
What is intelligent design? It's the missing link between creationism and religious instruction masquerading as biology. Bruce Bower, Science News, vol. 168 (Nos 26 & 27), 2006, p. 414.

One might guess that Bruce Bower is not an ID advocate...so you're turning to critics of a view for the definition of that view? So I assume when you need a definition of something conservative you immediately run to liberals to provide it if you're consistent...is that correct?

76 posted on 03/31/2007 3:40:11 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
for those who just espouse out and out creationism rather than try and redefine science to meet their political goals

Well I have respect for people who make compelling arguments and Ann did a great job.

77 posted on 03/31/2007 3:42:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: EveningStar

He said: "Ann Coulter, is not a scientist"

EVOLUTION IS NOT A SCIENCE .. IT'S A THEORY!!

Or .. it's just the opinion of someone .. not a scientific revelation.


78 posted on 03/31/2007 3:42:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: Screamname
You would think at LEAST one other species would have the same, but no. None exist.

They have, but the humans were smart enough to eliminate them.

< }B^)

79 posted on 03/31/2007 3:43:26 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on sabbatical.)
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To: Cicero; All

Exactly!!

He said: "Ann Coulter is not a scientist"

EVOLOTION IS NOT A SCIENCE - IT'S A THEORY!!


80 posted on 03/31/2007 3:46:06 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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