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UK seeks face-saving deal with Iran: Report-(well this is fun)
persian journal ^ | 4/1/07 | persian journal

Posted on 04/01/2007 8:55:57 PM PDT by Flavius

Britain hopes to send a top navy officer to Tehran to deliver a face-saving compromise that will ensure the release of 15 captive British naval personnel, Sunday Telegraph newspaper reported yesterday.

The British government will send the officer to Tehran to promise that the Royal Navy will never knowingly enter Iranian waters without permission, according to a plan cited by The Sunday Telegraph. The compromise, which would involve dispatching a navy captain or a commodore to Iran, was raised at a meeting of a senior government crisis committee on Saturday, the newspaper reported.

Mullah-run television aired new footage of two of the 15 British naval personnel. The two were shown separately on the television's Arabic language channel standing in front of an Iranian chart of the northern part of Persian Gulf waters where the sailors and marines were seized on March 23.

Beckett has said that Britain has replied to a letter from the Iranian embassy in London, which urged the government to acknowledge that the sailors had trespassed and confirm that it would not happen again.

Meanwhile, mullahs' thugs hurled stones and big firecrackers at Britain's embassy in Tehran. No one was hurt by the small explosive devices, which went off with loud bangs and sent clouds of smoke rising from inside the compound. About 100 demonstrators chanted: "British, British, death to you, death to you." Demonstrators, who scuffled with police, included members of the Basij, a hardline religious militia. Protesters called for the embassy to be closed down.

© Iranian.ws


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1 posted on 04/01/2007 8:55:59 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Tony Blair has been emasculated.


2 posted on 04/01/2007 8:58:16 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: Perdogg

its not only him


3 posted on 04/01/2007 8:58:53 PM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: Flavius
I feel bad for the Brits.

They wouldn't dare do this to Americans.

4 posted on 04/01/2007 8:59:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Perdogg

Bend over Tony and take your spanking from your master Ahmadinejad.


5 posted on 04/01/2007 8:59:36 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: Brad Cloven

You know you love it Tony-boy. Just a little whipping will make you tingle all over big boy.


6 posted on 04/01/2007 9:00:24 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

7 posted on 04/01/2007 9:02:23 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (McCain / Feingold - 2008 ... "Shut Up or Go To Prison")
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To: Flavius

Hostage number 16 reporting for duty.


8 posted on 04/01/2007 9:04:58 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Vote Republican. It's a matter of life and death this time.)
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To: Flavius

9 posted on 04/01/2007 9:05:43 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: Flavius
"The British government will send the officer to Tehran to promise that the Royal Navy will never knowingly enter Iranian waters without permission..."

The most pathetic part of this whole story is the fact that Britain believes this represents "saving face."

10 posted on 04/01/2007 9:06:10 PM PDT by Fabozz (I plead guilty to contempt of Congress.)
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To: Flavius

The Persian Journal wouldn't lie to us, would it? /sarc


11 posted on 04/01/2007 9:07:58 PM PDT by skr (Freedom is one of the deepest and noblest aspirations of the human spirit. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

don't be so sure...

I recall our sincere apologies to China as but one example. Now, China and Iran are different bears...

I say this also because of the constant submission to muslim dictates lately. It seems like the West can't submit fast enough....many liberals would willingly behead themselves if it would make muslims feel better.


12 posted on 04/01/2007 9:08:41 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: Flavius

The Brits will regret this BIGTIME!


13 posted on 04/01/2007 9:11:24 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Flavius

I'm going to hurl!


14 posted on 04/01/2007 9:14:50 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Brad Cloven

"Tony Bohica"


15 posted on 04/01/2007 9:15:24 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Flavius

UN Issues Memo on Hostage Crisis in Iran

In response to Iran’s seizure of 15 British naval personnel in Iraqi waters, the U.N. Security Council issued a statement of “grave concern.” The UN rejected the United Kingdom’s request that the statement “deplore” Iran’s actions.

Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, explained the UN’s criteria for official statements. “‘Deplore’ would be too strong at this point,” Ban said. “If someone had been injured, then we could justifiably ‘deplore’ the action. This would, of course, be escalated to ‘gravely deplore’ if someone had been killed.”

“Now,” Ban continued, “if Iran carries out its threat to put these people on trial we would have to consider a statement of ‘admonishment.’ If, as some in Iran have demanded, any of these captives were executed, we would then be authorized to escalate to ‘grave admonishment.’ As you can see, the language of diplomacy must be properly nuanced to fit the situation. It is not an easy skill to learn. Many of us have devoted a lifetime to perfecting it.”

In related news, Tehran’s Interim Friday Prayers Leader, Ahmad Khatami, mocked Britain as “a ‘has been’ nation that must accept its humiliation by the great and powerful Iran if it hopes to avoid total destruction. They will bow before Islam or they will die. That is their only choice.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


16 posted on 04/01/2007 9:20:19 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Will_Zurmacht

"many liberals would willingly behead themselves if it would make muslims feel better."

eine gut traume!

if only it were true then we'd have no problems


17 posted on 04/01/2007 9:25:15 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound; All

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/f-22a_raptor040107a.jpg


18 posted on 04/01/2007 9:29:50 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: Flavius
promise that the Royal Navy will never knowingly enter Iranian waters without permission

what does this mean?
a) Britain will now tell Iran before it sends any covert (or overt) attack vessels towards Iran's shores.
b) Britain knows that any attacks on, or incursions into Iran will be aerial so they won't have to give away their attack plans.
c) Who's to say whether Britain "knowingly" did or would enter Iranian waters, making it rather moot since they can always claim to have done it unknowingly and therefore not have to get permission for that which they didn't know they done.
(d) It's diplo-speak for saying 'yes we were in your waters and shouldn't have done that'. (notice it doesn't say 'again')
(e) Iran has effectively proven that another superpower doesn't have the balls to stand up to them, and they can pretty much bully their way into any challenging situation they want with little fear of reprisal.
(f) The British are wusses just like the French and US democrats.
(g) All of the above.

19 posted on 04/01/2007 9:32:25 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Flavius

20 posted on 04/01/2007 9:34:06 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: John Semmens
the U.N. Security Council issued a statement of “grave concern.”....rejected the United Kingdom’s request that the statement “deplore” Iran’s actions.

Well, THAT will teach those Persians a lesson .... but, oh if only we could have gotten it 'deplored' also,.....NOW THAT would have REALLY, REALLY made a difference.

Yes siree, Bob, you wouldn't see those Iranians even entering foreign waters again, let alone actually making contact with other vessels or taking hostages.

21 posted on 04/01/2007 11:44:01 PM CDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)

Oops, almost forgot .... < /sarcasm>

21 posted on 04/01/2007 9:44:40 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Flavius

If this is true this is PATHETIC!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 04/01/2007 9:48:38 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Flavius

we need to launch on these pissants

a 'shock and awe' that lasts for about 6 months


23 posted on 04/01/2007 9:49:01 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Flavius

Uh, April Fool? Please? Pretty Please?


24 posted on 04/01/2007 10:01:04 PM PDT by tanuki
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To: Perdogg

By now the Britain of Thatcher or Churchill would have leveled a few thousands Iranian acres into a smoking dump. God, where are people with balls when you need them?


25 posted on 04/01/2007 10:29:59 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Flavius

Holy crap. What the HELL IS GOING ON!?!?!?
Send a general to say, "Do you guys just love men stronger and healthier than you or what? Are you in need of some physical trainers or something? Stop stealing our soldiers or you will never see a drop of gasoline flow again!"

"Are you guys secretly gay?"


26 posted on 04/01/2007 10:36:15 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: fishhound

Schoen! Wie so?


27 posted on 04/01/2007 10:39:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

keine Argumente für alle aus Krieg mit dem ROP


28 posted on 04/01/2007 10:47:12 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: fishhound

Not war, annihilation.


29 posted on 04/01/2007 10:49:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Flavius

The officer should only say "give us our sailors and boats or say goodbye to Tehran".


30 posted on 04/01/2007 10:51:14 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: MHGinTN

Agreed!


31 posted on 04/01/2007 10:52:46 PM PDT by fishhound
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To: Flavius
I hope they got the Iranian side of this "deal" in writing. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if Britain said they'd never enter Iranian waters to be followed by Iran saying not good enough, you didn't admit to being in our waters and didn't say please enough, then put the troops on trial.
32 posted on 04/01/2007 10:57:24 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Democrats: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"I feel bad for the Brits."

I don't. Not anymore. A nation that chooses weakness and vacillation will receive assault and humiliation. The nation of Disraeli, Admiral Nelson, Churchill, and Thatcher is dead, replaced by a sensitive, multicultural organism that is accepting sharia. National suicide seems to be all the rage in Britain.
33 posted on 04/01/2007 10:58:47 PM PDT by DesScorp (.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
They wouldn't dare do this to Americans.

You forgot Jimmuh and 444 days of mostly Howdy Dowdy. These people smell out weakness like a pig smells out truffles.

34 posted on 04/01/2007 11:06:40 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: Flavius
Saw Newt Gingrich on CSPAN today. He said his plan would be to tell Iran( in secret so they could save face), that they had x days to turn them over or we will destroy your only refinery and blockade your ports. In less than 1 month, all of Iran will be walking.

His point was how easy it would be to bring them literally to their knees, and here we are fretting over a tin horn dictatorship. They have one refinery,,,....ONE! One cruise missile and these guys have riots in the streets. This could all be over with a well placed RPG!

God, I hope Newt runs, he was outstanding!

35 posted on 04/01/2007 11:27:22 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Flavius
Tony Blair, please be more like you were in the days of Operation Barras.
36 posted on 04/02/2007 12:58:51 AM PDT by conserveababe (Candidate Rudy Giuliani is turning many on this site into anti-gunners.)
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To: Flavius; All

What happened to the crew of the merchant ship?
Were they arrested, too?
They must have been in Iranian waters also.
I just wonder nobody mentions them or asked them about the position of their ship.


37 posted on 04/02/2007 1:10:08 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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Let's remove any material in this article which isn't a direct quote of a person in the know, in other words, an actual British official:
"___________________"
I think the actual UK article might be a wee bit more clear than second or third or fourthhand info which doesn't even tell us who the Telegraph sourced in the article to which the Persian allegedly refers. They don't even quote "Becket" or tell you who this "Becket is" in the article.
38 posted on 04/02/2007 1:20:35 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I feel bad for the Brits.
They wouldn't dare do this to Americans.


Yes they would. They've done it before (and got away with it). Course, you didnt have any decent leadership then.


39 posted on 04/02/2007 1:28:13 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Brad Cloven

You know you love it Tony-boy. Just a little whipping will make you tingle all over big boy.


You need therapy.


40 posted on 04/02/2007 1:28:55 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Will_Zurmacht

"many liberals would willingly behead themselves if it would make muslims feel better."

Well said.


41 posted on 04/02/2007 3:33:21 AM PDT by thegreatmalcolmx (I came to love white people. At least that is what I was taught in my black history class.)
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To: skr

"The Persian Journal wouldn't lie to us, would it? /sarc"

All most as bad as the NYT. The only way I would ever respect Blair again is if he gets the hostages out by Thursday and starts bombing on Friday.


42 posted on 04/02/2007 3:37:00 AM PDT by thegreatmalcolmx (I came to love white people. At least that is what I was taught in my black history class.)
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To: Flavius

43 posted on 04/02/2007 3:45:01 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Islam is the non-dissolving flavah bomb in the melting pot of civilization.)
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To: Flavius

The Brits look like fools. Next we'll see pictures of Chamberlain presented as a great statesman.


44 posted on 04/02/2007 5:44:10 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Ice-cubes melting in the sun is an act of God. Get over it, Gore.)
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