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Andhra Govt. to support shutdown tomorrow on OBC issue
The Hindu ^ | April 3, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 04/03/2007 10:42:11 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici

Hyderabad, April. 3 (PTI): The Congress Government in Andhra Pradesh today said it would support the state-wide strike called tomorrow by an OBC body to protest the Supreme Court's stay on the quota for backward classes in elite educational institutions.

The entire Opposition, including the TDP, TRS, BJP, CPI and CPI(M), had earlier announced that it would back the shutdown called by the Andhra Pradesh Backward Classes Welfare Association.

Expressing solidarity with the strike, the government asked the Road Transport Coproration to suspend its bus services.

All public examinations scheduled for tomorrow would be postponed to a later date, Backward Classes Welfare Minister D Srinivas told reporters here. "We are in total agreement with the demand that the Centre should take necessary measures for implementing the reservation for OBCs," he said.

State Congress President K Kesava Rao said the shutdown was a "democratic expression" and appealed to people to make it a success. "It is heartening that all parties are supporting the bandh. I hope it will be an eye-opener to those who oppose reservations for backward classes," he said.

Apart from participating in the shutdown, the main opposition TDP will hold dharnas in the headquarters of all districts on April 11.

Telangana Rashtra Samithi chief and MP K Chandrasekhar Rao will take part in a "rail roko" programme in Secunderabad as part of the shutdown.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: business; closed; india; strike
I found this interesting as it impacts the global operations of the company I work for in Hyderabad.

Does it count as a holiday or vacation?

1 posted on 04/03/2007 10:42:14 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Backword” what????????????


2 posted on 04/03/2007 10:43:57 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: Quick Shot

I think this has to do with the Indian SC ruling that stayed college “setasides” for “backwards” (lower classes/castes) must go forward.

Someone with more knowledge correct me if I’m wrong but college admissions have traditionally been for only the higher castes. This was overruled recently, setting aside some admissions for lower castes. This SC ruling stays that and the protests for tomorrow protest the Indian SC ruling.


3 posted on 04/03/2007 10:48:11 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Encourage illegal immigration! Turn the Southwest into a sewer just like Mexico!)
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To: Quick Shot

Backward classes!

I read somewhere Muslims are defined as a backward class in India. If so, I can’t help agreeing.


4 posted on 04/03/2007 10:49:29 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Quick Shot

Other Backward Classes-is the official term used to describe economically/socially backward castes ,who are generally regarded as being above the lowest/untouchable castes.


5 posted on 04/03/2007 10:52:05 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: VeniVidiVici; Constitutionalist Conservative; Gator113; Zhang Fei; DanielLongo; Tamar1973; ...

Asia pinglist.


6 posted on 04/03/2007 10:54:10 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Err,you are wrong.Admission has always been open to all castes with affirmative action programmes stretching back since independence,which were primarily for the Lowest classes called the Scheduled Castes/Tribes.

It’s only been over the last 20 years that the Other Backward Classes have received importance primarily because of their political value.

The Supreme Court didn’t overrule the The reservation order itself itself.What they struck down was that the government relied on weak & insufficient data to promote reservations for OBC groups.


7 posted on 04/03/2007 10:58:11 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: VeniVidiVici

This sort of strike sends more future foreign investment money to China instead of to India.


8 posted on 04/03/2007 10:58:15 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: agere_contra

It is primarily upto the State Government to classify as backward.Certain Muslim groups esp those who are from the lowest castes & are economically weak are classified as backward in some states(like in the South) & can avail benefits of educational quotas.


9 posted on 04/03/2007 11:01:26 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: VeniVidiVici
Someone with more knowledge correct me if I’m wrong but college admissions have traditionally been for only the higher castes. This was overruled recently, setting aside some admissions for lower castes. This SC ruling stays that and the protests for tomorrow protest the Indian SC ruling.

this issue is US equivalant of affirmative action : it's like having mandatory quota system in US

in india there is already mandatory quota stystem

govt of india wanted to add more people & hence increase the quota.

thanks to supreme court its stopped for now. but here again supreme court ruled against govt on technical grounds.

governing congress party wants quota for muslims also..

10 posted on 04/03/2007 12:11:58 PM PDT by Y2000
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To: VeniVidiVici

Interesting.


11 posted on 04/03/2007 12:24:56 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I must admit I don’t know how stratified Indian society is with Castes, Scheduled Tribes, Other Backward Classes, or even what it all means. Plus Backward Classes among minorities; all based on birth and religion.

How do you guys keep it straight?


12 posted on 04/03/2007 1:10:08 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Encourage illegal immigration! Turn the Southwest into a sewer just like Mexico!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This seems to be a fairly complex system. Does each state use its own quota system or is there a federal schema?


13 posted on 04/03/2007 5:42:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

It is.The Centre can make legislations,but the implementation is at the State level,so that’s what matters mainly.Some articles of the Indian Constitution (Article 341 IIRC) empowers the President of India or the State Governors to create & add to a schedule the lowest castes & tribal groups which need positive discrimination.

In theory,noble intentions,though it’s just a political gimmick.


14 posted on 04/03/2007 8:42:41 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: VeniVidiVici

In most states,it’s pretty straightforward-most people don’t really bother.In States of South India,all the quotas in educational institutions add up to almost 60-70% of the total population.Good thing is that there are plenty of colleges there!!

The problem primarily is in States where caste relations are volatile like those of North or Central India & such quotas are more or less necessary.


15 posted on 04/03/2007 8:45:09 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Has anyone proposed a merit system wherein caste status is not considered?

Does this quota system also extend to higher education (e.g. university)?


16 posted on 04/03/2007 8:46:26 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Make that implementation is mainly at the State level.There are quotas also in the Indian Central Government offices & undertakings,educational institutions etc.


17 posted on 04/03/2007 8:47:12 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Wow! That is a lot of quotas!


18 posted on 04/03/2007 8:48:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yes,it applies to higher education.All the noise over the recent Supreme Court verdict was made by Students(both for & against quotas) about extending it to elite institutions like the IIT(technology),IIM(Management) & AIIMS(Medicine).

Ofcourse merit is proposed by many people & is in essence used by those elite institutions I mentioned as they,though established by the government,are autonomously run.

But we need to remember that a system giving importance to merit makes sense once you have level playing field from the start.That is mostly not the case if we make cross-caste considerations.


19 posted on 04/03/2007 8:51:35 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Do many young Indians pay as much attention to caste as do their elders? Only a few of the Indian students who I know pay much attention to caste. One of my friends placed only moderate importance on it, but he was very proud that his wife was from a caste above his own.


20 posted on 04/03/2007 8:55:35 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

In general if you look at it in abstract,the importance of caste is going down(if you were looking up from top to bottom).Though in the last 30 years,there has been a sense of unity & identification with caste among the lowest castes(so not from bottom to top).It’s a weird thing & the politicians share a chunk of the blame.Quotas & more reservations are the easiest way to win a clutch of votes.All political parties play this game.

That being said,in states where social reform has been slower like those in the North,caste identity is still important,even among the youth,to the point of near conflict.


21 posted on 04/03/2007 9:05:28 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I have seen it still play a role in some Indian cinema.

As for parties pandering to caste, it sounds similar to the class warfare crap and other pandering in which many of our politicians engage.


22 posted on 04/03/2007 9:17:44 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Indian cinema(Bollywood & others) has generally never propagated the caste divide & if anything has tried to bridge such divides,to it’s credit.But it is a real problem in some important parts of India(4 states with caste problems send around 200 members to the Parliament-out of a total of 545).So you can’t blame cinema or even the politicians.They are afterall,a reflection,albeit a skewed one of the society you live in.


23 posted on 04/03/2007 9:22:22 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

True enough. What I meant to convey with regard to the Cinema was that they address the caste issue.

That said, I recently saw Dil Se and was trying to figure-out who was the basis of the terrorist group portrayed in the film.


24 posted on 04/03/2007 9:26:49 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Never figured that out!!I think it’s more a politically correct amalgamation of Kashmiri & North Eastern terrorist groups.


25 posted on 04/03/2007 10:01:56 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Okay. I figured that it was supposed to be Kashmiri in all but name and was made PC by placing it in the North East.

The music was good and I, personally, would have stayed with Preeti (Preity Zinta) rather than trapsing after a terrorist chick. Oh well, I didn’t write the script.


26 posted on 04/03/2007 10:09:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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