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If We Don’t Say No to Same-Sex Unions, then Why Not Incest and Pedophilia Says Archbishop
Lifesite ^ | April 3 07 | Peter Smith

Posted on 04/03/2007 8:56:28 PM PDT by freedomdefender

The new head of the Italian bishops conference has made political waves by asking on what basis may incest and pedophilia be denied if Italy legalizes same-sex unions and other alternatives to the family.

Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco of Genoa, who was appointed last month to lead the Italian Bishops Conference, is spearheading efforts of the Catholic Church in Italy against legislation giving unmarried unions – including same-sex ones – legal status and benefits.

“Why say 'no' to forms of legally recognised co-habitation which create alternatives to the family? Why say 'no' to incest?” the Archbishop said at a meeting of Church workers, according to the Italian journal, La Repubblica.

“Why say 'no' to the pedophile party in Holland?” Bagnasco stated, referring to the Dutch Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity party, which lobbies to reduce the age of consent from 16 to 12 and legalize child pornography.

Supporters of the “DICO” bill, which would grant legal recognition of opposite and same-sex civil unions and benefits, immediately objected that the Archbishop had equated the legislation with pedophilia and incest.

Environment minister Alfonso Pecoraro Scanio, a vociferous advocate of the homosexual agenda, said Archbishop Bagnasco had created a “grave, foolish comparison which offends millions of people”.

However, an editorial in Avvenire, the official newspaper of the Italian Bishops Conference, dismissed the controversy as a “storm in a teacup”, saying that Archbishop Bagnasco had merely illustrated the fact that family policy must be founded on principles other than whichever way public opinion gravitates.

“No equating DICO with incest or pedophilia, then, in his words,” the newspaper said.

In other words, the Church is emphasizing family policy must have a basis in natural law and the moral order, or else public opinion someday may justify with law destructive sexual relationships once believed inconceivable, even well beyond homosexual unions.

Italy's bishops have called on Catholic politicians to vote against the bill backed by Prime Minister Romano Prodi, warning that it undermines traditional marriage and the family, which Pope Benedict XVI has called a "pillar of humanity."

Benedict XVI has warned that projects legalizing pseudo-marriage arrangements are “dangerous and counterproductive” to the health of society by “weakening and destabilizing the legitimate family based on marriage."

"Only the foundation of complete and irrevocable love between man and woman is capable of forming the basis of a society that becomes the home of all men.”


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KEYWORDS: nomoraljudgement; samesexmarriage; sexpositiveagenda; slipperyslope
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I liked the poster's analogy offered above, comparing these arrangements to counterfeit currency.

I've often used the counterfeiting analogy in reply to the cry "what we do in our bedrooms is nobody's business!"

Particularly when the participants then go on to tender dread disease and infirmity to the larger community, out of their carelessness and perversity.

41 posted on 04/04/2007 10:01:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: freedomdefender
The new head of the Italian bishops conference has made political waves by asking on what basis may incest and pedophilia be denied if Italy legalizes same-sex unions and other alternatives to the family.

Very good question. And don't forget polygamy and bestiality.

42 posted on 04/04/2007 10:05:36 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: reagandemocrat
“Gay marriage” affects real marriage the way counterfeit money affects real money.

And so, both 'gay marriage' and counterfeiting of money must be kept illegal.

43 posted on 04/04/2007 10:09:06 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

>>>And so, both ‘gay marriage’ and counterfeiting of money must be kept illegal.<<<

Unquestionably.


44 posted on 04/04/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: TexasCajun
I recall reading, in my reckless, feckless youth, Playboy's "Unabashed Dictionary".

There was an entry for bigamy: Having one wife too many. (see marriage)

Then you look down, and there was an entry for marriage: Having one wife too many. (see bigamy)

Hey, I just read 'em, I don't make 'em!

CA....

45 posted on 04/04/2007 11:01:41 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: freedomdefender

Why not pedophilia? The Church has been saying that for decades.


46 posted on 04/04/2007 11:03:13 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Star Traveler

If I were to set up my very own counterfeit $100 bill making machine and pass them off as real currency, the FBI and every other law enforcement agency would storm my house, shut down the presses, and frog-march me away to the big-house, pronto. And rightfully so. That is because counterfeit money dilutes (harms)the value of real money....It cheapens bona fide currency.

Likewise, ‘gay’ marriage dilutes real marriage...you said ‘debases’ and I agree. As a society, anything that dilutes or debases bona fide marriage should be declared illegal. (And please don’t get me started on the state of anti-Family Law in this country, which is the subject of an entirely different rant)

Sincerely,

RD


47 posted on 04/04/2007 11:16:14 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Charlie007

Ping!


49 posted on 04/04/2007 5:34:43 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Charlie007

It IS Biblical, but without Biblical authority it’s just jibberish.


53 posted on 04/04/2007 5:44:51 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
While this is a noble sentiment, without the authority of God Almighty and His Word, it is just the blathering of a man

Which is all your post is.

54 posted on 04/04/2007 5:46:37 PM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion; Charlie007

OK. I’ll type slowly so you can understand my opinion.

Without the context of OBEDIENCE and FAITH in
God’s Word, moral, noble and yes even Scripturally
accurate sentiments carry no weight. It is all moral
relativism. As in what is right to one person may
not be right to another person.

“All the good from the Saviour of the world is communicated through this Book; but for the Book we could not know right from wrong... “ (Abraham Lincoln)

“The Bible is the one supreme source of revelation of the meaning of life, the nature of God and spiritual nature and need of men. It is the only guide of life which really leads the spirit in the way of peace and salvation.” (Woodrow Wilson)


57 posted on 04/04/2007 6:00:47 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Charlie007

I certainly hope the Bishop can quote Scripture.
He’s a good guy. Wish he’s stay out of politics.


58 posted on 04/04/2007 6:02:45 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Charlie007; Campion; Star Traveler

[... Only the foundation of complete and irrevocable love between man and woman is capable of forming the basis of a society that becomes the home of all men...]

STARTING FROM ANOTHER POSITION

I agree the Bishop’s remarks are Biblicaly based.
However, if the flock is essentially secular, they
have no reason to be obedient to this concept.
Revival, repentance and reverance for God and His
Word are first required.


59 posted on 04/04/2007 6:13:10 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: DangerDanger

“Actually, I don’t think the government should be giving subsidies and tax deductions for ANY marriage. Get the government - and tax code - out of the marriage business entirely.”

DD, I think this is exactly right. The gubberment should never have been given this power—given its inherent nature. We should not be put in the position of recognizing a marriage because government says so, because eventually it will try to put forth an impossibility like “gay marriage”, or another combination of words that can’t make sense.


60 posted on 04/04/2007 6:37:42 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says keep rockin' in the name of liberty!)
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