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Calif. priests plead innocent in Ft. Huachuca trespass case (Not Priests! NUTZ!)
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 04/04/2007 6:33:20 PM PDT by SandRat

Two Bay-area Catholic priests facing prison time for trespassing at Fort Huachuca in Sierra Vista pleaded innocent in federal court in Tucson on Tuesday morning. The priests — the Rev. Louis J. Vitale and the Rev. Steve Kelly — are scheduled to go to trial June 6 and June 4, respectively.

The pair are accused of trespassing at Fort Huachuca, about 75 miles southeast of Tucson, on Nov. 19 while protesting military intelligence training.

They were set to deliver a letter to the post's top commander, Maj. Gen. Barbara Fast, stating that the facility trains personnel in torture methods, a claim the Army denies.

Vitale, a 74-year-old Franciscan priest, and Kelly, a 58-year-old Jesuit priest, both have been locked up previously for acts of civil disobedience.

Before the priests' arraignment Tuesday morning, about 30 people held a vigil and rally for them outside the U.S. District Courthouse, reading from Scripture and singing songs about social justice.

Supporters say they're planning a public-awareness campaign about the fort's military intelligence school for the weeks leading up to the trials.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiwar; nutz; priests; ratcrime; trespass

1 posted on 04/04/2007 6:33:24 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: \/\/ayne
This means the Tucson Federal Court-House is gonna be inundated with NUTZ!
2 posted on 04/04/2007 6:34:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Trespassers will be violated.


3 posted on 04/04/2007 6:38:46 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: SandRat

Ah, my old stomping grounds! Wonder if the Spice Rack is still behind the USAICS barracks? Anyone?


4 posted on 04/04/2007 6:47:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Iran delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Spice Rack? You’re dating yourself. That building hasn’t been used for much more than storage in years.


5 posted on 04/04/2007 7:03:54 PM PDT by azsportsterman
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Ax; ...

MI Ping


6 posted on 04/04/2007 7:05:23 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: ASA Vet

I’d heard rumors that Fort Huachuca had something to do with sneaky spy stuff. Now we know, huh :-) At least it’s still functional. I just looked up Fort Devens, where I spent a few weeks. It’s a museum now.


7 posted on 04/04/2007 7:14:57 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit

We knew Ft. Devens would be turned into a museum as soon as possible after MI destroyed ASA.


8 posted on 04/04/2007 7:19:38 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: SandRat

Book’em Danno!!


9 posted on 04/04/2007 7:19:48 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: caisson71

It would be more fun to experiment on them.


10 posted on 04/04/2007 7:20:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: azsportsterman

MOS 96B (Intelligence Analyst) Class 78-9. Everyone else went to Germany, while I shipped out for Korea.


11 posted on 04/04/2007 7:27:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Iran delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; azsportsterman; Old Sarge
Everyone else went to Germany, while I shipped out for Korea.

Got that short tour out of the way quick, didn't ya'?

At least you didn't go as a 17K. (snicker, snicker...)

12 posted on 04/04/2007 7:33:09 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: ASA Vet

I wonder if they’ll turn us ASA vets into museums too :-) I think I’d cut a fine figure, stuffed, mounted on a pedestal and put out for public viewing on the town square. They’ll never get my uniform back on, but that’s a detail.


13 posted on 04/04/2007 7:39:08 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: SandRat

Huachuca. Huachuca.

I got nothing to add...I just like saying... Huachuca.


14 posted on 04/04/2007 7:39:15 PM PDT by Wheee The People (Go FRed)
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To: HiJinx

“Got that short tour out of the way quick, didn’t ya’?” Hell, I reenlisted to go back to Korea! Didn’t like the motorpool at Fort Hood vs. actually doing my job.


15 posted on 04/04/2007 7:41:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Iran delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ft. Riley was no better. That wasn’t really mud out along the tank trails...

I guess I got lucky doing my overseas tours in Germany. Three years surrounded by the Sovs in Berlin...yeah, good tour.

OBTW, thanks for your service!


16 posted on 04/04/2007 7:47:31 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: T'wit

Lots of times my uniform was a pair of flip flops, cut off ragged jeans, and a hole filled t-shirt.


17 posted on 04/04/2007 7:47:37 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: Wheee The People

Fort We-Gotchya?


18 posted on 04/04/2007 7:47:49 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: SandRat

Does the Vatican have anything to do or say about this, assuming that the archdiocese of Tucson and San Francisco do not? I am tired of priests getting away with illegal acts, and you all know what I am talking about. I ask this as an angry Catholic. I want my religion back before I bolt. (I will wait for their trials and verdict, but I am peeved, dangnamit.)


19 posted on 04/04/2007 8:22:05 PM PDT by Draco
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To: azsportsterman

I wonder if the Ozone is still around.

I remember some wild nights there. I’m told I don’t remember a few that were wilder.


20 posted on 04/04/2007 8:24:28 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: Draco
You can listen from now until the Second Coming and all you'll hear from the Vatican and the archdiocese of Tucson and San Francisco is ----crickets chirping----
21 posted on 04/04/2007 8:30:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MOS 72G U3 rating Class of March 1984.


22 posted on 04/04/2007 8:31:13 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: SandRat

I suspected that, given recent history. I was taught to expect more from the Church. They were the ones that taught me. And now another lesson.


23 posted on 04/04/2007 8:39:49 PM PDT by Draco
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To: ColdSteelTalon

MOS 97B40 class of 1970- Fort Holibird, MD.


24 posted on 04/04/2007 9:00:20 PM PDT by cotton
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To: HiJinx
> Three years surrounded by the Sovs in Berlin...yeah, good tour.

Oh, yeah, I was there six months and loved it all. Lived in a huge apartment with three other guys in the British sector, near KuDamm. Got sent packing within 48 hours when a guy in our unit fell asleep on the U-bahn and ended up in Soviet hands. They bled him for a few days, sent him back, and the scuttlebutt was that his next tour was in Leavenworth. Everybody in our unit had to go, down to the last cook. I went to Luebeck. That was pretty nice too :-)

25 posted on 04/04/2007 9:22:10 PM PDT by T'wit (AFP: wormy, eel-sucking, slavering French lickspittles kissing Castro's capacious, grimy buttocks)
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To: ASA Vet
>> Lots of times my uniform was a pair of flip flops, cut off ragged jeans, and a hole filled t-shirt.

I never had a chance at that, but I did live off base at ALS, in Pacific Grove, and walked to class every morning. The apt. was supported by running poker games :-) Commuted to work (Rudow) from an apartment in Berlin, in my own car.

Bother all you people who can remember your MOS. Mine had four digits (language) and I can't for the life of me remember it any more.

26 posted on 04/04/2007 9:31:10 PM PDT by T'wit (AFP: wormy, eel-sucking, slavering French lickspittles kissing Castro's capacious, grimy buttocks)
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To: T'wit

I think they used that guy’s story to scare the rest of us into not sleeping on the U-bahn!

Living near the Ku-Damm had to be great. I’m sorry for you that you didn’t get to enjoy it longer.

Ah well - I heard that Luebeck had it’s high points, too.


27 posted on 04/04/2007 9:44:40 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: HiJinx
>> Living near the Ku-Damm had to be great.

Yes. Kaiserwilhelmstrasse. Maybe four blocks from Ku-Damm, I don't remember. The apartment was about 4 acres for a hundred bucks a month. One of my roomies was air force, working out of Tempelhof. There were two others and I don't remember what they did -- it wasn't at Rudow. This was, as noted, in the British sector, ergo outside the patrol range of MPs. Life was good and the supply of frauleins was generous beyond the dreams of youthful lechery :-)

28 posted on 04/04/2007 11:32:29 PM PDT by T'wit (AFP: wormy, eel-sucking, slavering French lickspittles kissing Castro's capacious, grimy buttocks)
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To: T'wit

“Fort Devens...It’s a museum now.”

Wow. I did not know that. If ASA is gone, who’s doing the listening? Just NSA?


29 posted on 04/05/2007 4:54:22 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon

98G2LGMK3


30 posted on 04/05/2007 4:56:38 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: toddlintown

I was a little surprised too. Dunno a thing about it. The one thing I remember most vividly about my stay was flying out of the local airfield. It was the flattened top of a hill. When the plane — an overloaded DC3 that had seen private service in Alaska — finally staggered off the ground, it went DOWN.


31 posted on 04/05/2007 5:08:19 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: HiJinx; 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, I just got back online.

Re; That 17K comment... I represent that. They didn’t call us the grunts of MI fer nothin’. I also remember something about being called a pop-up target, too!?!


32 posted on 04/05/2007 1:55:11 PM PDT by azsportsterman
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To: Hawk1976

The Ozone? Nope, there have been several differnt operations in that building over the past few years. The building is too far away from the soldiers now.

As an aside, the building wasn’t there when I first saw Fort Huachuca, and Riley Barracks wasn’t even competed yet. Prosser Village (used to be called MI Village) wasn’t even a pipe dream back then; there was no East gate, but the North Gate into Huachuca City was open.


33 posted on 04/05/2007 2:03:42 PM PDT by azsportsterman
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To: azsportsterman

I think it was still called MI village when I was there.

I was over in the 11th Silly BDE though.


34 posted on 04/05/2007 2:33:45 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You mean "the cactus canteen"?.....

That was my first duty assignment, but I haven't been there in about 6 years. As a matter of fact, I flew out of Boston on 9 September, 2001 for a short time at fort we-got-cha.

35 posted on 04/05/2007 4:07:13 PM PDT by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army)
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To: T'wit

Not true. I’ve been stationed here at Devens for 6 years. Massachusetts took the “fort” away as a slap in the face and to somehow entice business to develop the land we no longer use. Since they took the “fort” out of Fort Devens, I don’t mind taking the “M” out of Massachusetts....


36 posted on 04/05/2007 4:12:19 PM PDT by DilJective (Proudly serving in the US Army)
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To: azsportsterman

Well, I’m certainly relieved that you took that as the joke I meant it to be.

I think you know that I have nothing but the utmost respect for you and your service.

As for pop-up targets...I think one or two of our Captains served that purpose well in DCD!


37 posted on 04/05/2007 4:25:54 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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